Guest Juanky Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Yesterday's home plate umpire, Jerry Layne, is now at third base. I hate to attack umpires because they have a tough job and usually get it right, but has there been a more obvious sense of malice than what we're seeing from this guy? Yesterday, Marlins2003 reported that he was jawing with the Marlin dugout before the 1st and 2nd innings. Whatever it was about, he hasn't dropped it. First, he refused to ask for help on an obvious foul ball yesterday off Dontrelle's foot, in which he hobbled back to the dugout. Immediately after the rain delay when the Marlins took the field, he was openly jawing with Jack about something. In the bottom of the ninth last night, he rings Damion Easley up on a check swing (where he clearly did not go) without getting an appeal from the first base umpire, who is supposed to determine the call in that situation. Now tonight, the foul ball incident and ejecting Jack maybe two words into the discussion. Something is up with this guy and he needs to be removed from the crew for tomorrow's game before he can do anymore harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 I hope the Marlins are playing today's game under protest. The home plate ump had the call on that foul ball and Layne ignored him completely even though Jack asked him for an Umpire conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshFish Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Shyt happens I hate Jerry Lane and Cubs fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juanky Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Yeah, s*** does happen - but s*** also adds up to something other than coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 I was thinking the same thing Juanky. He seems to have a serious vandetta here, too many "coincidences" with the same ump the last 2 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapHands69 Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 f*** Jerry Layne! :fyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Who? Screw 'em. Atleast Jack raised a fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoShaq Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 I was thinking the same thing Juanky. He seems to have a serious vandetta here, too many "coincidences" with the same ump the last 2 games. 848646[/snapback] It's a no win situation unfortunately and that is the sad part :confused I think it's time MLB suspends umpires like they do players and managers.This was a sad turn of events for the game of baseball.Like the NBA,and other Pro sports, the outcome of games are ruled by officiating that have ego problems and want star power. And no one in their respective sports ever does anything about it (Stern,Selig,etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFan253 Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 I was thinking the same thing Juanky.? He seems to have a serious vandetta here, too many "coincidences" with the same ump the last 2 games. 848646[/snapback] It's a no win situation unfortunately and that is the sad part :confused I think it's time MLB suspends umpires like they do players and managers.This was a sad turn of events for the game of baseball.Like the NBA,and other Pro sports, the outcome of games are ruled by officiating that have ego problems and want star power. And no one in their respective sports ever does anything about it (Stern,Selig,etc). 848752[/snapback] The NBA's officiating makes the games unwatchable. I can't stand it anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Certainly appeared that way tonight. I suspect Layne was miffed that Jack stopped and discussed the play with home plate umpire before going to Layne because by the time Jack got there Layne was fuming. Two, three words and Jack got the heave-ho. You do have to wonder, as Juanky said, what's going on between this umpire and the Fish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyMountainMarlin Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 His dad was Billy Layne and his mom was a goat who gave it up easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridafan13 Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 f*** Jerry Layne!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 I have a question for you all who watched the play on tv. I was at the game so I didn't have the benefit of replay and depending on Dave Van Boring (god he makes my ears hurt) for anything other than a belch or two along the way leave unknowing whether the ballwas in fact fair or foul? I'm sure Rick and Tommy replayed it several times. What was it fair or foul? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accord Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 He's bad, but Jim Joyce is the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 umpires are umpires. deal with it. they are not out to blatently kill us, well usually. it all tends to even out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeWrecker Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 they actually only showed it once, and the view wasnt good.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juanky Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 I have a question for you all who watched the play on tv. I was at the game so I didn't have the benefit of replay and depending on Dave Van Boring (god he makes my ears hurt) for anything other than a belch or two along the way leave unknowing whether the ballwas in fact fair or foul? I'm sure Rick and Tommy replayed it several times. What was it fair or foul? 848833[/snapback] I did not have the benefit of tv, but Felo and Yiki said without a doubt that the ball was foul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 I just saw it on BBTN and reading between the lines of the comments that accompanied it, the impression of Kurkjian was that it was indeed foul. He did point out Layne was the same umpire the Fish had trouble with last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBMarlin Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 I just saw it on BBTN and reading between the lines of the comments that accompanied it, the impression of Kurkjian was that it was indeed foul. He did point out Layne was the same umpire the Fish had trouble with last night. 848875[/snapback] The unfortunate part of the call was it totally turned the game into the Cubs favor. Often umps bad calls don't affect the game, but this one really put the game out of reach for the Fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Rick and Tommy only played the replay once cause it was way too fast and blurry to tell from their view...so we dont know... but yeah that ump was a stooge... the jaw jacking...the Easly checkswing...the line drive...the ejection...and the worst one...the OBVIOUS Willis foul ball (WHAT DID LANE THINK WILLIS WAS DOING WHILE KNEELING ON THE FLOOR HOLDING HIS FOOT?!?!?!) Thats A LOT from one ump in two games time...um, MLB, Selig, anybody....HELLLLOOOOO!?!?!?! :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanleyDavidson Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 I wish that fat tub of lard wouldve gotten nailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ24 Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Who is Rick Waltz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Rich Waltz...second cousin of Mike Jones-Waltz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanleyDavidson Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 MOST HATED UMPIRES ON MY LIST ARE: john wolf,Admin poncino,jerry layne,joe west,and chuck meriweather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin2266 Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Maybe this is repeating the obvious, but..... When a ball bounces in fair territory before reaching 3B, the judgement by the ump is whether the ball is fair when it reaches 3B, not whether it hits fair after passing 3B. It's kinda like there's an imaginary foul pole extending up from 3B, and if the ball is on the fair side (or even collides with that imaginary pole) right at 3B, it's a fair ball. Yes, it did hit foul beyond 3B, but in the umps judgement, it was fair as it passed over 3B. Tough call, and TV did not have a good angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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