June 1, 200719 yr is Gregg still the closer ??? Benitez is worse than Julio....... you are a fool. Julio doesnt have any saves and an era near 10. have you seen Benitez pitching ?? many Champagne bottles opened in Frisco....... you dont watch baseball. he saved 47 games two years ago and has only blown 2 this year. julio had an era around 100. your not watching the major leagues kid.
June 1, 200719 yr As part of the deal, the Giants will pay the remainder of Benitez's $7.6 million salary this season, according to a source with knowledge of the trade. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6872914You get to move Messenger for someone who did well here, and you're not going to pay him anything above the minimum? Whoa! Awesome!
June 1, 200719 yr Another thing to point out, of his 23 appearances this year Messenger was unscored upon in 19 of them...out of those, he had: 19.2 IP, 0.00 ERA, 1.09 WHIP. I guess I just fail to see the logic.
June 1, 200719 yr is Gregg still the closer ??? Benitez is worse than Julio....... you are a fool. Julio doesnt have any saves and an era near 10. have you seen Benitez pitching ?? many Champagne bottles opened in Frisco....... you dont watch baseball. he saved 47 games two years ago and has only blown 2 this year. julio had an era around 100. your not watching the major leagues kid. try again chump
June 1, 200719 yr Another thing to point out, of his 23 appearances this year Messenger was unscored upon in 19 of them...out of those, he had: 19.2 IP, 0.00 ERA, 1.09 WHIP. I guess I just fail to see the logic. you picked out the appearances in which he didn't give up any runs to show how good he was? interesting.
June 1, 200719 yr WOW WTF!!? I AM LATE AS HELL!! I NEVER KNEW THIS HAPPENED!! ARMANDO IS BACK!! HELL YES!
June 1, 200719 yr wtf? This trade makes no sense. They're whips are similar, and Messenger has an ERA 2 runs lower. Benitez is only going to get worse, while Messenger has a young talented arm. This trade makes no sense.
June 1, 200719 yr Another thing to point out, of his 23 appearances this year Messenger was unscored upon in 19 of them...out of those, he had: 19.2 IP, 0.00 ERA, 1.09 WHIP. I guess I just fail to see the logic. you picked out the appearances in which he didn't give up any runs to show how good he was? interesting. Way to try to initiate a straw man argument. I said he had appearances where he had been scored upon, but overall(the majority of his innings) he has been good. Messenger has more scoreless innings than Benetiz has innings pitched.
June 1, 200719 yr I don't want Mr. I Balked in a run. Argh... We NEED a Centerfielder. Why does Gregg have to move down... What happens if Benny becomes another Julio. :fit
June 1, 200719 yr wtf? This trade makes no sense. They're whips are similar, and Messenger has an ERA 2 runs lower. Benitez is only going to get worse, while Messenger has a young talented arm. This trade makes no sense. Messenger throws straight fastball very much.
June 1, 200719 yr I don't want Mr. I Balked in a run. Argh... We NEED a Centerfielder. Relax, we can still get one. The giants are eating up most of the contract.
June 1, 200719 yr I don't want Mr. I Balked in a run. Argh... We NEED a Centerfielder. Relax, we can still get one. The giants are eating up most of the contract. all his contract.
June 1, 200719 yr Benitez is owed $5,066,666 from the remainder of his $7.6 million salary this year, of which Florida will pay $333,333 and San Francisco $4,733,333.
June 1, 200719 yr it's being reported now the marlins are picking up the major league minimum. http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story...sdate=5/31/2007
June 1, 200719 yr wtf? This trade makes no sense. They're whips are similar, and Messenger has an ERA 2 runs lower. Benitez is only going to get worse, while Messenger has a young talented arm. This trade makes no sense. Messenger throws straight fastball very much. And Benitez gives up runs very much.
June 1, 200719 yr I'm totally against this move. Following two injury riddled seasons, I have no faith in Benitez at this point in his career. As for this season, why give up someone who is performing well for someone who is performing poorly?
June 1, 200719 yr Benitez is owed $5,066,666 from the remainder of his $7.6 million salary this year, of which Florida will pay $333,333 and San Francisco $4,733,333. Nice. According to espn.com Messenger was making $380,000 this year. So we dumped about $50,000 in payroll (Loria can get a nice car)! BTW you can tell someone got traded today because if you look at the top 20 posters for the day, everyone is in double digits.
June 1, 200719 yr Benitez is owed $5,066,666 from the remainder of his $7.6 million salary this year, of which Florida will pay $333,333 and San Francisco $4,733,333. good. so we're basically paying him the minimum+change. Benitez is owed $5,066,666 from the remainder of his $7.6 million salary this year, of which Florida will pay $333,333 and San Francisco $4,733,333. So we dumped about $50,000 in payroll (Loria can get a nice car)! :lol
June 1, 200719 yr I guess its a good thing the Marlins waited lol What was the going price in Spring Training? I can live with this trade just because its just Messenger
June 1, 200719 yr Holy crap this is an awesome trade. How many guns can one team have in the bullpen? Benitez Gregg Owens Lindstrom Pinto Miller Tank Gardner :o I could give a crap about Messenger being much younger. Bullpen arms are volatile. You can't say X pitcher will be effective 2-3 years down the road. It's more the playing of the hot hand and trusting your scouting department when it comes to building a bullpen, and on most teams building a bullpen is a yearly thing.
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