Hey Remember When ESPN.com said Mark Hendrickson...

[Trey05Marlins]

...would be out of our rotation by May? It's about time they eat their crow now! He is 4-1.

[geemoney]

Pobody's Nerfect.

[LordMagnus]

That's because they are too busy gushing over Johann Santannaanananana.

[MikeLowell]

I don't mind them making fun of us. The thing that I hate is when we are in contention late in the season and they decide to jump on the bandwagon like they have been calling it all season long. If you're off in the beginning, stay off.

[Hotcorner]

So far he's done all you could ask for.

 

Add him to the list of guys I rolled my eyes at when they were brought in.

 

Gonzo

Hendrickson

 

 

I was okay with the Cantu pickup or else I'd be 3 for 3. :lol

[CYmarlins]

So far he's done all you could ask for.

 

Add him to the list of guys I rolled my eyes at when they were brought in.

 

Gonzo

Hendrickson

 

 

I was okay with the Cantu pickup or else I'd be 3 for 3. :lol

 

Join the club, I was iffy about Hendrickson myself, though I thought Gonzo was a nice pickup.

[FishFF]

How many ZOMG ESPN threads can be made in 1 week

[Rabbethan]

How many ZOMG ESPN threads can be made in 1 week

It's directly proportional to the times they are wrong.

[FishFF]

How many ZOMG ESPN threads can be made in 1 week

It's directly proportional to the times they are wrong.

 

 

Sweet..You tell them!!!

[Puma]

Not really sure why

 

A) This is such a big deal.

 

or

 

B) People are acting like this is some sort of new ordeal.

[Marlins2003]

If you look at Hendrickson's monthly splits for 2007 you'll understand why they were confident in their prediction.

 

Different team, different situation, different home field, different year but if all you're going by was last season's track record there's some justification for making it. What's unfortunate was the cynicism and belittling that accompanied it.

[Puma]

If you look at Hendrickson's monthly splits for 2007 you'll understand why they were confident in their prediction.

 

Different team, different situation, different home field, different year but if all you're going by was last season's track record there's some justification for making it. What's unfortunate was the cynicism and belittling that accompanied it.

 

 

Different Eyesight :whistle

[Nny]

lasik, as far as I know, has never had a noticable effect for pitchers. I don't recall ever seeing a player getting lasik and pitching better, but I do recall seeing pitchers getting lasik and it not making a difference (The one that stick out in my mind is Daniel Cabrera, who went from a 4.74 ERA to a 5.55 ERA after getting Lasik. Although to be fair, his control did improve).

 

When it's all said and done he'll probably be back to a mid to high 4 ERA pitcher. He was getting a lot of unwarranted hate on his ability prior to the season, but he's also not a 2.50 ERA pitcher like he has been these past 4 starts.

[PitchingWinsGames]

lasik, as far as I know, has never had a noticable effect for pitchers. I don't recall ever seeing a player getting lasik and pitching better, but I do recall seeing pitchers getting lasik and it not making a difference (The one that stick out in my mind is Daniel Cabrera, who went from a 4.74 ERA to a 5.55 ERA after getting Lasik. Although to be fair, his control did improve).

 

When it's all said and done he'll probably be back to a mid to high 4 ERA pitcher. He was getting a lot of unwarranted hate on his ability prior to the season, but he's also not a 2.50 ERA pitcher like he has been these past 4 starts.

 

I posted an article about this a while back, and it actually has had a positive effect on a lot of athletes (including pitchers), I'll find it now

[PitchingWinsGames]

http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...t&p=1352705

 

Here it is

[Wild Card]

lasik, as far as I know, has never had a noticable effect for pitchers. I don't recall ever seeing a player getting lasik and pitching better, but I do recall seeing pitchers getting lasik and it not making a difference (The one that stick out in my mind is Daniel Cabrera, who went from a 4.74 ERA to a 5.55 ERA after getting Lasik. Although to be fair, his control did improve).

 

When it's all said and done he'll probably be back to a mid to high 4 ERA pitcher. He was getting a lot of unwarranted hate on his ability prior to the season, but he's also not a 2.50 ERA pitcher like he has been these past 4 starts.

 

Well it wasn't as if he got lasik and had been wearing glasses or contacts. He never wore anything to correct his vision, he practically pitched half blind. That's why the lasik thing for Hendrickson was kind of a big deal.

[Nny]

http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...t&p=1352705

 

Here it is

 

 

I haven't read it yet but the title caught my eye (If steroids are cheating, why isn't LASIK?) because it's something I've always said when people are like like "OMG STEROIDS ARE TEH DEVIL!!!"

 

But thanks :thumbup

[Puma]

http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...t&p=1352705

 

Here it is

 

 

I haven't read it yet but the title caught my eye (If steroids are cheating, why isn't LASIK?) because it's something I've always said when people are like like "OMG STEROIDS ARE TEH DEVIL!!!"

 

But thanks :thumbup

 

Steroids = Illegal in the U.S.

 

Lasik = Legal in the U.S.

[PitchingWinsGames]

http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...t&p=1352705

 

Here it is

 

 

I haven't read it yet but the title caught my eye (If steroids are cheating, why isn't LASIK?) because it's something I've always said when people are like like "OMG STEROIDS ARE TEH DEVIL!!!"

 

But thanks :thumbup

 

Steroids = Illegal in the U.S.

 

Lasik = Legal in the U.S.

 

I'm sure you get the general gist of what he's saying though... they both provide "unnatural" competitive advantages

[Rabbethan]

http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...t&p=1352705

 

Here it is

 

 

I haven't read it yet but the title caught my eye (If steroids are cheating, why isn't LASIK?) because it's something I've always said when people are like like "OMG STEROIDS ARE TEH DEVIL!!!"

 

But thanks :thumbup

 

Steroids = Illegal in the U.S.

 

Lasik = Legal in the U.S.

 

I'm sure you get the general gist of what he's saying though... they both provide "unnatural" competitive advantages

But the difference between corrective surgery and drugs is easy to spot.

[Admin]

I think he'll ultimately prove to be better than Obermueller, Kim, and Moehler have been in years past but don't expect these performances to keep up consistently.

[Marlins2003]

I suppose by that standard Jim Mecir should never have been allowed to play major league ball after seven surgeries so he at least didn't spend his life in a wheelchair or if he was lucky on crutches with braces on his legs having been born with two club feet. Remember watching him drag himself back to the dugout by the end of the season with that look of pain across his face.

 

For that matter let's bar Tommy John surgery because if there was ever a procedure that DID enhance a player's potential performance it's that. Tear that ligament, you're gone, banned for life.

 

All Lasik does is put you on a par with your peers, Hendrickson commented that sometimes he couldn't even see his catcher's location, he was handicapped compared to other pitchers, there's no enhancement in the classic sense like steroids. It's an absurd comparison.

 

it's not like it added five mph to his fastball or made his breaking pitches break that much more.

 

I would guess there are fifty guys if not more playing MLB right now who have had the same procedure.

[Puma]

http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...t&p=1352705

 

Here it is

 

 

I haven't read it yet but the title caught my eye (If steroids are cheating, why isn't LASIK?) because it's something I've always said when people are like like "OMG STEROIDS ARE TEH DEVIL!!!"

 

But thanks :thumbup

 

Steroids = Illegal in the U.S.

 

Lasik = Legal in the U.S.

 

I'm sure you get the general gist of what he's saying though... they both provide "unnatural" competitive advantages

But the difference between corrective surgery and drugs is easy to spot.

 

This.

[Nny]

Improving through science is improving through science, regardless of the method it's implemented.

 

I suppose by that standard Jim Mecir should never have been allowed to play major league ball after seven surgeries so he at least didn't spend his life in a wheelchair or if he was lucky on crutches with braces on his legs having been born with two club feet. Remember watching him drag himself back to the dugout by the end of the season with that look of pain across his face.

 

For that matter let's bar Tommy John surgery because if there was ever a procedure that DID enhance a player's potential performance it's that. Tear that ligament, you're gone, banned for life.

 

All Lasik does is put you on a par with your peers, Hendrickson commented that sometimes he couldn't even see his catcher's location, he was handicapped compared to other pitchers, there's no enhancement in the classic sense like steroids. It's an absurd comparison.

 

it's not like it added five mph to his fastball or made his breaking pitches break that much more.

 

I would guess there are fifty guys if not more playing MLB right now who have had the same procedure.

 

 

wasn't saying that at all.

[Marlins2003]

I was commenting on the absurdity of the contention illustrated in the headline of the story you quoted.