gomarlins9703 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 BS Umping BS Bench Coach btw.. As I recall, Tosca sucked last year when Fredi got tossed too. First game this year I've been pissed off after. Also, as far as Ross hitting goes, I was for it. I was for Amezaga bunting. As far as Rabelo hitting... no excuse in my opinion. Why not just let Treanor hit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louiecastillo1 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I wasted 3 hours of my life listening to the stupid radio and I want them back. The umps had their heads up their asses today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 at least Nolasco looked better, not a small thing. Tough game to swallow though. Couple of inches different and Hammer makes that diving catch. Or Hanley's not called out at 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee Ball Bunt Machine Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I never got to see a replay on the call on Hanley being out on the throw. How bad was it? On the plus side, at least it happens on a day with everyone else losing or has lost (except los Nacionales, which is fine by me). Nolasco improved. We just needed a few of those runs from yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I never got to see a replay on the call on Hanley being out on the throw. How bad was it? It was a terrible call. He was clearly safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee Ball Bunt Machine Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I never got to see a replay on the call on Hanley being out on the throw. How bad was it? It was a terrible call. He was clearly safe. That's how it looked at regular speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I agree on the "I am pissed" thing. But that's it. I disagree about what you don't like. Carlos Tosca mismanaged the hell out of that game. How do you not pinch for Cody in that situation? How do you throw away an out in the 9th on the road? Pure idiocy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy42Jack0 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 bunting is not pure idiocy, not being able to bunt is sheer stupidity...fredo did his job and we couldnt get it done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I agreed with Tosca's moves, and the umps were bad on both sides. They cost Pittsburgh a run also on the "caught stealing" in the 6th inning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 guy in scoring position with Hanley at the plate.... If I'm trailing by a run in the 9th inning I'd take my chances with that scenario most nights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstatenyfishfan Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 the real reason we lost was because we didnt hit when we had too..... Lets be honest how many runners did we leave on bases tonight? Just got to learn from it, I hope that they really get pissed about the game, knowing they should have won, and go on a little run the rest of the road trip. The BS call doesnt matter because that throw out on the steal was bs and cost them at least one run, so i say we are even on the umpires tonight. Yah they blew but it didnt really favor one team or the other. Hermida pinch hit basically for the pitcher and rabelo basically hit for treanor in that situation. I think way you look at it is they wanted to put hermida up first in the inning to set the table with amezaga to follow. Get one of them on base and drive them home with Rabelo/Hanley combo. From a baseball sense its a pretty solid way of using your order. Also it ends with our best player getting to hit with the tying run on second. I dont think you can ask for more in that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsfan2 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I agree on the "I am pissed" thing. But that's it. I disagree about what you don't like. Carlos Tosca mismanaged the hell out of that game. How do you not pinch for Cody in that situation? How do you throw away an out in the 9th on the road? Pure idiocy. speaking of iiocy. your view on this game is pure idiocy. why woul you have a 25% chance of alfredo getting a hit which would be doing the same thing as fredo bunting but there is a smaller chance of him getting the runner over especially when we have our type of bullpen. so your saying go for the win on the road is saying that we should risk stranding a runner at first if fredo doesnt get a hit and still having 1 out. your thery is retarded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estan ganando los marlins Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I liked the bunt though you can't pass up an opportunity like that to put a runner in scoring position. However, I would have put another pinch hitter. I thought we were going to win by supporting Nolasco. I think this could be a bad thing for Nolasco's confidence for next start. But now we gotta concentrate on Atlanta... IN Atlanta. It will be tough but we have to do it so that we can go into Milwaukee fresh with Olsen. Definitely a painful loss but we gotta make sure we don't continue to lose. We needed more run support today, which baffles me why we didn't get that. Ross NEEDS to pick it up. Uggla NEEDS to pick it up as well. Cantu is doing great. Tomorrow we gotta pick it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 the real reason we lost was because we didnt hit when we had too..... Lets be honest how many runners did we leave on bases tonight? Just got to learn from it, I hope that they really get pissed about the game, knowing they should have won, and go on a little run the rest of the road trip. The BS call doesnt matter because that throw out on the steal was bs and cost them at least one run, so i say we are even on the umpires tonight. Yah they blew but it didnt really favor one team or the other. Hermida pinch hit basically for the pitcher and rabelo basically hit for treanor in that situation. I think way you look at it is they wanted to put hermida up first in the inning to set the table with amezaga to follow. Get one of them on base and drive them home with Rabelo/Hanley combo. From a baseball sense its a pretty solid way of using your order. Also it ends with our best player getting to hit with the tying run on second. I dont think you can ask for more in that situation. The problem is that Hermida should have pinch hit in the 8th for Cody Ross when we had 2 on base with 2 outs. Would it have changed anything? Who knows, but that fact that we didn't and we left the gigantic slumping Cody out there is dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I only disagreed with 1 move made by Tosca tonight, and it was the Rabelo pinch-hit. I'd take my chances with Helms up there (he was brought in for a reason...the main reason was to provide a quality right-handed pinch-hitter off the bench). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsfan2 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 the real reason we lost was because we didnt hit when we had too..... Lets be honest how many runners did we leave on bases tonight? Just got to learn from it, I hope that they really get pissed about the game, knowing they should have won, and go on a little run the rest of the road trip. The BS call doesnt matter because that throw out on the steal was bs and cost them at least one run, so i say we are even on the umpires tonight. Yah they blew but it didnt really favor one team or the other. Hermida pinch hit basically for the pitcher and rabelo basically hit for treanor in that situation. I think way you look at it is they wanted to put hermida up first in the inning to set the table with amezaga to follow. Get one of them on base and drive them home with Rabelo/Hanley combo. From a baseball sense its a pretty solid way of using your order. Also it ends with our best player getting to hit with the tying run on second. I dont think you can ask for more in that situation. The problem is that Hermida should have pinch hit in the 8th for Cody Ross when we had 2 on base with 2 outs. Would it have changed anything? Who knows, but that fact that we didn't and we left the gigantic slumping Cody out there is dumb. why would he pinch hit for cody in the 8th. cody is a better hitter and its not guarenteed that jeremy gets a hit and hes a bad fielder. he wanted to save jeremy for the 9th with the bottom of the order coming up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamibaseball Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 why do we score so much for one game and score little day after? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsfan2 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 why do we score so much for one game and score little day after? because they had there worst pitcher and worst relievers in last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonDigital Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Tough loss. We will bounce back. I see the name calling hasn't stopped around here. Why do you guys call each other idiots in a post game thread? Learn to disagree with class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I agree on the "I am pissed" thing. But that's it. I disagree about what you don't like. Carlos Tosca mismanaged the hell out of that game. How do you not pinch for Cody in that situation? How do you throw away an out in the 9th on the road? Pure idiocy. speaking of iiocy. your view on this game is pure idiocy. why woul you have a 25% chance of alfredo getting a hit which would be doing the same thing as fredo bunting but there is a smaller chance of him getting the runner over especially when we have our type of bullpen. so your saying go for the win on the road is saying that we should risk stranding a runner at first if fredo doesnt get a hit and still having 1 out. your thery is retarded You don't even know how to type. The fact that you wanted 2-12 slumping Helms to pinch hit instead of Rabelo shows that you don't know much about baseball either. 2nd off, when you are on the road, you always go for the win. Always. You don't give away outs. Statistically speaking, you always have a better chance of getting a run with 0 outs and a man on 1st than with 1 out and a man on 2nd. This isn't my gut talking, it is fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamibaseball Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 i need to see miller pitch better if we going win in atlanta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 the real reason we lost was because we didnt hit when we had too..... Lets be honest how many runners did we leave on bases tonight? Just got to learn from it, I hope that they really get pissed about the game, knowing they should have won, and go on a little run the rest of the road trip. The BS call doesnt matter because that throw out on the steal was bs and cost them at least one run, so i say we are even on the umpires tonight. Yah they blew but it didnt really favor one team or the other. Hermida pinch hit basically for the pitcher and rabelo basically hit for treanor in that situation. I think way you look at it is they wanted to put hermida up first in the inning to set the table with amezaga to follow. Get one of them on base and drive them home with Rabelo/Hanley combo. From a baseball sense its a pretty solid way of using your order. Also it ends with our best player getting to hit with the tying run on second. I dont think you can ask for more in that situation. The problem is that Hermida should have pinch hit in the 8th for Cody Ross when we had 2 on base with 2 outs. Would it have changed anything? Who knows, but that fact that we didn't and we left the gigantic slumping Cody out there is dumb. why would he pinch hit for cody in the 8th. cody is a better hitter and its not guarenteed that jeremy gets a hit and hes a bad fielder. he wanted to save jeremy for the 9th with the bottom of the order coming up Cody is not even close to the hitter than Hermida is. You do realize Cody is hitting .176, right? Before his lucky hit yesterday, which was cause by bad fielding, he hadn't gotten a hit since the series against Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Tough loss. We will bounce back. I see the name calling hasn't stopped around here. Why do you guys call each other idiots in a post game thread? Learn to disagree with class Yeah, horrible loss. For the record, the only person I called an idiot was Carlos Tosca. Also, where have you been Jon? I miss having you around here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsfan2 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I agree on the "I am pissed" thing. But that's it. I disagree about what you don't like. Carlos Tosca mismanaged the hell out of that game. How do you not pinch for Cody in that situation? How do you throw away an out in the 9th on the road? Pure idiocy. speaking of iiocy. your view on this game is pure idiocy. why woul you have a 25% chance of alfredo getting a hit which would be doing the same thing as fredo bunting but there is a smaller chance of him getting the runner over especially when we have our type of bullpen. so your saying go for the win on the road is saying that we should risk stranding a runner at first if fredo doesnt get a hit and still having 1 out. your thery is retarded You don't even know how to type. The fact that you wanted 2-12 slumping Helms to pinch hit instead of Rabelo shows that you don't know much about baseball either. 2nd off, when you are on the road, you always go for the win. Always. You don't give away outs. Statistically speaking, you always have a better chance of getting a run with 0 outs and a man on 1st than with 1 out and a man on 2nd. This isn't my gut talking, it is fact. hows rabelo doing. really? it is fact. because last i checked it is easier to get a single which is all you need with a guy on 2nd then it is to get a double plus speed which is what you need with a guy on 1st. and last time i checked it was more common that people get singles than people getting doubles especially against a good closer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everlong204 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 What cant be lost in all this was Ricky gave us a great game today. He allowed only one hit and a walk through 5 1/3 innings and his pitch count was ridiculously low. He ran into trouble there at the end but he only allowed 3 runs and went 6 innings and kept us in the game till the very end. Very good progress from him and I look foreword to seeing if he keeps it up on his next start. Granted, it sucks that we lost this game, we should have had this one, but considering that all of our biggest worries this year is starting pitching and how the rotation will hold up I am pleased at what I saw out of Ricky tonight. Hopefully the trend continues with him. Now if we can take two from Atlanta here, that would be something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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