MiamiFish Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-fls...7.column?page=2 Sick story! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louiecastillo1 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 "They called when they traded me and said, 'We don't have the money to pay you,'" he said. "...That's the excuse they give. They have money. Yup, we all knew it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianneLove Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 It almost brought a small tear to my eye. But what can you do? Maybe after 8 years sign him back? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillerTime Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 He's absolutely right. We don't need him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louiecastillo1 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 He's absolutely right. We don't need him! Maybe not, but i'll still take him over Cantu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillerTime Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 True. But I'll talke Jorge Cantu AND Cameron Maybin, Andrew Miller, Burke Badenhop, Mike Rabelo, Dallas Trahern, and Eulogio De la Cruz over him. :thumbup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiamiFish Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 Why all the Cabrera hate. He was a home grown Marlin with amazing talents, and he wanted to stay here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillerTime Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 No hate. Justr agreeing that we really don't need him. Words came out of his mouth, and I agree that what we got in return for him vastly outweighs his worth to this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_Marlins25 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I wish we would have just traded Dontrelle for Badenhop and Rabelo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomarlins9703 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 That's a depressing story. He seems so down. Hopefully he'll start mashing soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 He only misses it because he is doing badly, and the team is doing badly. I don't think the story would be the same if he was hitting is usual .330, on pace for 40 home runs, with the Tigers in 1st. When I read the article, I see how sad he is. But he seems sad about the fact that he is doing badly, got booed, and that the Marlins are in 1st without him. I always felt it was weird that he never showed any indication that he wanted to stay here until right before he got traded. He was gone after 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatherDashing Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 He only misses it because he is doing badly, and the team is doing badly. I don't think the story would be the same if he was hitting is usual .330, on pace for 40 home runs, with the Tigers in 1st. When I read the article, I see how sad he is. But he seems sad about the fact that he is doing badly, got booed, and that the Marlins are in 1st without him. Well, sure, he'd be more generally upbeat if the Tiggers were doing better, but it's BS to say that the standings would affect how he feels about being away from Alfie and Hanley and all his buds. Which, I know that's not what you're saying. But I feel bad for him, being away from them, and I think he'd still be pretty emo either way. I'm sure if the Tigers were in first, he wouldn't be like, "Amezaga who? Hanley who?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnellders Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 i can definately see him finishing off his career with the fish or even returning in his "twilight" baseball years wouldnt it be something if miggy hit the homer to become 1st on the home run leaderboard (by overtaking a-rod most likely) off of dontrelle willis, whereever he may be in the future... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I miss him too.... I love our team though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real_Teal Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I miss his bat; however, I like Cantu playing 3B. There have been some DPs turned this year that Miggy would not have turned. Runs would have scored, and we would have lost some of the 1 run games that we have won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 When Miggy switched agents to SFX (and I don't blame him) it signaled the end of his time here. He took the $150 million was happy as a pig in sh*t (all you have to do is go back and read the archived Detroit newspapers). Unfortunately he fell back on the same bad habits we more or less ignored because we loved him so - eating himself out of shape - and in Detroit third base and over to first, getting booed regularly and playing for a last place team. Every professional ballplayer will tell you it's a business first and these days his friends or an email or phone or video call away. I'm sure on one level he misses them but this is the bed he made. It's rather disingenuous to say the Marlins had the money when no one in their right mind knew they could make that kind of financial commitment going forward. There's probably less than a handful of teams in baseball that could, we all know their names. Maybe Miggy would have liked to stay here this year and next but while that may have kept his chummy club together a while longer where would that have left the Fish? With a couple of draft choices? Really. Before someone crawls down my throat for the above, please note I still carry Miggy's pic as mine and quote him as well. He was in his time as a Marlin one the greatest young talents I ever saw. I have all the respect in the world for the man, the player, but let's be real here, I doubt he sought Dave Hyde out to do this story. Hyde has had to shut up as the Marlins play better and better baseball, only coming out from under his rock when a few games didn't go the Marlins way to start his mockery and flame-throwing, and I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that another columnist without an axe to grind and better writing skills would have turned out a completely different story with the same time spent with our Miggy. Now that they're 20-14 and leading the division the only thing Hyde can come up with is a pity party for Miguel Cabrera, who probably was never looking for one when he made the mistake of answering Dave Hyde's call. As for Cantu and Cabrera this is just a snapshot, in the moment, not meant to equate two players who some might justifiably say don't belong together in the same sentence, but as of this morning Cabrera's line is .252/.342/.450 with six homeruns, 27 strikeouts and 59 total bases. Cantu is .280/.333/.480 with five homeruns, 28 strikeouts and 60 total bases. I don't know that's there's much difference in their production so far and at least Cantu is able to field his position (at least adequately) while Cabrera no longer could (less than adequately and moved to first). We lost a superstar, a mythic figure, an icon but so far we haven't lost much at the plate if at all and looking at their respective defense in 2008 may have actually improved slightly. It's a shame that Miggy was used like this by a columnist who has an axe to grind, it really is. Let's face it media scum like Hyde have no morality or pledge when it comes to truth-telling. Miggy was simply a pawn in Hyde's ongoing assault on the Marlins every chance he gets, the real reason for the piece and let's not forget that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urumotherpucker94 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I hope he can retire here. But that's if we keep Amezaga and Hanley, which are no guarantee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PitchingWinsGames Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Im agreeing with Rab on this... this is Miggy suffering from shell shock from having a big market, and big market pressure. He's now seeing what it's like to be under a microscope. Will he rebound, yeah, sure... he's too talented... but he misses the anonymity of Miami... That's my opinion of it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louiecastillo1 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I wonder if he's made anymore "classic" commercials over there. :mis2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolycrapIlovetheMarlins Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Who wouldn't be sad to live in Detroit. That is one town that really does suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishckc24 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I remember when Miggy and Willis got traded, I cried for two days . I miss Miggy but I do like how our team is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenflow58 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 You have to wonder how much is the "big fish in a small pond" syndrome. In Detroit they have established players that took them to a World Series. In Florida he was the established player that won a World Series. He also had free reign of the clubhouse. Now you've got Fredi tightening down a bit more and Gonzo as the clubhouse leader. How would Miggi react? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Adelante! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherrealfan Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 You have to wonder how much is the "big fish in a small pond" syndrome. In Detroit they have established players that took them to a World Series. In Florida he was the established player that won a World Series. He also had free reign of the clubhouse. Now you've got Fredi tightening down a bit more and Gonzo as the clubhouse leader. How would Miggi react? You also have to wonder how Miggy is adjusting to not being the leader. He was not much of a leader here, but he was not a follower either. Basically did what he wanted to. On that team you have veterans like Pudge and Sheffield, not that Sheffield was ever a leader, but a sour personality, and they may have an effect also. Who knows-Miggy is too good and will have his usual year at the plate. Leyland also does not do the nice nice to make you feel good if you pout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30plus Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 i can definately see him finishing off his career with the fish or even returning in his "twilight" baseball years Cabrera will only be 34 when his contract with Detroit is up. Who knows what kind of team the Marlins will have 8 years from now? Not trying to look too far ahead here, just saying Miggy will probably still have 4 productive years in which he averages 25+ homers and 90+ RBI left in him once his contract with Detroit is up. Alot of teams wouldn't mind a productive veteran bat like that in the 6 hole. Would be nice to see him hit number 500 as a Marlin, the team he came up with and carried for 4 and a half years. Chances are he will go to the HOF as a Tiger, but he will always have his origins and legacy with Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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