December 18, 200817 yr If he has a full season of pitching like (the partial season) he had this year, this will probably be his last year here and he'll cash in big next season. Unless there are some other arbitration rules that I don't understand that would make it more likely for him to stay here.
December 18, 200817 yr FWIW, Lou had JJ projected at $1.75 million, so this is a nice $350k savings. Hopefully this will set a lower precedent for future arbitration and/or contractual situations. (Maybe we should have signed Nelson with the extra cash. lol)
December 18, 200817 yr Seriously, how long do we keep a player like Johnson before we trade him? This is a serious question. A player like Johnson, if he remains healthy, will be out of our price range in a few years. How long before we get there?
December 18, 200817 yr Seriously, how long do we keep a player like Johnson before we trade him? This is a serious question. A player like Johnson, if he remains healthy, will be out of our price range in a few years. How long before we get there? i would guess in about 3 years (maybe less) he should be out of out price range. But, no worries. By then, we should have some pretty damn good pitching prospects ready to come up from our minor league system.
December 18, 200817 yr Seriously, how long do we keep a player like Johnson before we trade him? This is a serious question. A player like Johnson, if he remains healthy, will be out of our price range in a few years. How long before we get there? i would guess in about 3 years (maybe less) he should be out of out price range. But, no worries. By then, we should have some pretty damn good pitching prospects ready to come up from our minor league system. we should also have the stadium ready to open up. which means more cashflow into the marlins, which then would hopefully mean we could keep him signed.
December 18, 200817 yr Seriously, how long do we keep a player like Johnson before we trade him? This is a serious question. A player like Johnson, if he remains healthy, will be out of our price range in a few years. How long before we get there? i would guess in about 3 years (maybe less) he should be out of out price range. But, no worries. By then, we should have some pretty damn good pitching prospects ready to come up from our minor league system. we should also have the stadium ready to open up. which means more cashflow into the marlins, which then would hopefully mean we could keep him signed. Or that.
December 18, 200817 yr LOL 1 year.I would have liked to see a 3 year/10-12 million deal. Well, he's under club control until 2011, at least. This doesn't mean he's gone after this year, fortunately.
December 18, 200817 yr LOL 1 year.I would have liked to see a 3 year/10-12 million deal. Well, he's under club control until 2011, at least. This doesn't mean he's gone after this year, fortunately. If Johnson is still here in 2010, then Nolasco probably won't be. Retaining both of them would be improbable for this team (past 2009). The upcoming season will probably determine which one of the two we sign to a multi-year contract. I envision the 2010 rotation looking something like this: 1. Johnson 2. Volstad 3. Miller 4. Sanchez 5. West
December 18, 200817 yr LOL 1 year.I would have liked to see a 3 year/10-12 million deal. Well, he's under club control until 2011, at least. This doesn't mean he's gone after this year, fortunately. If Johnson is still here in 2010, then Nolasco probably won't be. Retaining both of them would be improbable for this team (past 2009). The upcoming season will probably determine which one of the two we sign to a multi-year contract. I envision the 2010 rotation looking something like this: 1. Johnson 2. Volstad 3. Miller 4. Sanchez 5. West The economy and the status of stadium construction will probably be the two most important drivers when it comes to keeping the pitching staff together. If things worsen we are in a better position than most although revenue sharing will be down but we aren't saddled with a number of significant contract obligations which will be impacting other teams, we'll be able to sign more of the players we want to hold onto, and if the stadium is well on its way sales of corporate and season tickets will demand successful players are used as a lure towards developing a predictable revenue stream.
December 18, 200817 yr 14 minutes and 2 posts before someone tried to put a negative spin on good news. I doubt that's a record, but it may be close. Write this down because alot of folks don't seem to get it. The Marlins don't sign pitchers to long term deals, and most especially those that just entered their first year of arby.
December 18, 200817 yr 14 minutes and 2 posts before someone tried to put a negative spin on good news. I doubt that's a record, but it may be close. Write this down because alot of folks don't seem to get it. The Marlins don't sign pitchers to long term deals, and most especially those that just entered their first year of arby. Out of interest, whats the longest/most expensive contract the Marlins have ever given a pitcher?
December 18, 200817 yr JJ, my favorite pitcher on the staff right now. I love JJ, but my favorite is Nolasco. I fell in love during that game against the Diamondbacks where we stopped Webb's winning streak. Nolasco's curveball was just insane.
December 19, 200817 yr JJ, my favorite pitcher on the staff right now. I love JJ, but my favorite is Nolasco. I fell in love during that game against the Diamondbacks where we stopped Webb's winning streak. Nolasco's curveball was just insane. I love nolasKo too but hes probably 3rd on my list of my favorites on the staff. JJ, volstad and Ricky. Ricky is probably the best though.
December 19, 200817 yr 14 minutes and 2 posts before someone tried to put a negative spin on good news. I doubt that's a record, but it may be close. Write this down because alot of folks don't seem to get it. The Marlins don't sign pitchers to long term deals, and most especially those that just entered their first year of arby. Out of interest, whats the longest/most expensive contract the Marlins have ever given a pitcher? I want to say Alex Fernandez, off the top of my head.
December 20, 200817 yr 14 minutes and 2 posts before someone tried to put a negative spin on good news. I doubt that's a record, but it may be close. Write this down because alot of folks don't seem to get it. The Marlins don't sign pitchers to long term deals, and most especially those that just entered their first year of arby. Out of interest, whats the longest/most expensive contract the Marlins have ever given a pitcher? Alex Fernandez, who signed for all the money on earth with a term of forever... and that worked out splendidly!
December 20, 200817 yr 14 minutes and 2 posts before someone tried to put a negative spin on good news. I doubt that's a record, but it may be close. Write this down because alot of folks don't seem to get it. The Marlins don't sign pitchers to long term deals, and most especially those that just entered their first year of arby. Out of interest, whats the longest/most expensive contract the Marlins have ever given a pitcher? Alex Fernandez, who signed for all the money on earth with a term of forever... and that worked out splendidly! Weren't we still paying Leiter until like last season?
December 20, 200817 yr 14 minutes and 2 posts before someone tried to put a negative spin on good news. I doubt that's a record, but it may be close. Write this down because alot of folks don't seem to get it. The Marlins don't sign pitchers to long term deals, and most especially those that just entered their first year of arby. Out of interest, whats the longest/most expensive contract the Marlins have ever given a pitcher? Alex Fernandez, who signed for all the money on earth with a term of forever... and that worked out splendidly! Weren't we still paying Leiter until like last season? We were paying Mike Hampton for awhile too, while he wasn't here, right?
December 20, 200817 yr We were paying Mike Hampton for awhile too, while he wasn't here, right? We were paying Hampton to pitch in Atlanta for a few years because it was part of a deal that overall saved the Marlins something like $26 million.
December 20, 200817 yr JJ, my favorite pitcher on the staff right now. I love JJ, but my favorite is Nolasco. I fell in love during that game against the Diamondbacks where we stopped Webb's winning streak. Nolasco's curveball was just insane. I did too! He impressed the hell out of me during that game.
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