So, we have another hole in our rotation. Who replaces Noly?

 

 

If West performs well he can take someones place but if he stinks tonight then we are stuck again. What a nightmare.

I doubt we give up on West if he has a bad start. First start in the majors is tough for anybody. I may be in the minority here, and I understand West is obviously being rushed, but I feel West could be a regular in the rotation soon, and I didn't think or hope it would be this early, but hopefully he can prove to be a special talent.

Charlie Hough.

They shouldn't have rushed Sean West up here but I agree if he does bad his first couple of starts you have to stick with him at least 4 starts to see how he handles pitching in the majors.

 

Other then that I think that they are moving ahead correctly in they are looking for ways to fix whats wrong with the team, and the next places they need to look into is how badly placed the players are! Just about everyone is playing out of position this year...

 

We have a 2b who is terrible at 2b, and should be at 3rd or LF at best, we have a 1b who should be at 3rd, we have a SS who can hit well but sucks defensivly, and should be in the OF, we have a LF who should be at 2b or 3b, and well we have a 3rd baseman who should be in AAA.

 

Then there is Ross, and Hermida who well Ross im not worried about but Hermida im about to give up on.

They shouldn't have rushed Sean West up here but I agree if he does bad his first couple of starts you have to stick with him at least 4 starts to see how he handles pitching in the majors.

 

Other then that I think that they are moving ahead correctly in they are looking for ways to fix whats wrong with the team, and the next places they need to look into is how badly placed the players are! Just about everyone is playing out of position this year...

 

We have a 2b who is terrible at 2b, and should be at 3rd or LF at best, we have a 1b who should be at 3rd, we have a SS who can hit well but sucks defensivly, and should be in the OF, we have a LF who should be at 2b or 3b, and well we have a 3rd baseman who should be in AAA.

 

Then there is Ross, and Hermida who well Ross im not worried about but Hermida im about to give up on.

 

Do you watch this team?

 

We have a 2B who is average at 2B, a 1B who was horrific at 3B and is good at 1B, a SS who's been average career wise and has been above average this year, a LF who should be in AAA, but also at 2B or 3B, and a 3B who should be on the bench. That's assuming we had someone to replace Coghlan and Boni. We don't.

Looking forward to seeing West pitch tonight at the stadium. He may not do well but at least we will be getting a glimpse at one of our future stars.

Jake Peavy. J/K, i wish though. i hope west can be last season volstad. someone who steps in for a start and stays for the rest of the season

Ben Sheets.

Ben Sheets.

 

 

he would cost money which is something ownership doesn't like to give to players. also i'm pretty sure he'll sign with the rangers

west had a pretty good game only allowing 2 in 5 innings. but of course when someone pitches well the offense doesn't show up.

So if West has another few good starts what do we do in a few weeks when Nolasco comes back up and Sanchez is healthy again - do we just sent West back to AA which seems the most obvious???

Ben Sheets.

 

 

Yeah, just we need, a guy coming off elbow surgery who has been hampered with injury problems throughout his career.

 

It really doesn't matter anyway. It's inevitable that he's gonna sign with the Rangers.

So if West has another few good starts what do we do in a few weeks when Nolasco comes back up and Sanchez is healthy again - do we just sent West back to AA which seems the most obvious???

 

 

Depends on how Nolasco and Sanchez are doing in those rehab/minor league starts. If they are lights out and West is only average or good in the majors, then I can see West being sent down. If Ricky and Ani are only okay or even getting knocked around a bit down in the minors and West is doing fine, I gotta hope that West stays up.

Only other guy we have in the minors is Barone.

Im guessing Penn Again or Badenhop unless we want to try Taylor again

West was rushed, and he was fortunate last night. He's not the answer...not now. Bringing him up was a mistake.

West was rushed, and he was fortunate last night. He's not the answer...not now. Bringing him up was a mistake.

 

 

 

Honeslty, It was a mistake and hopefully he pitches well until Ani or RVH come back and hopefully that's soon

To answer the original question:

 

 

Who cares.

West was rushed, and he was fortunate last night. He's not the answer...not now. Bringing him up was a mistake.

 

 

 

He may be the answer right now. Maturing via the major leagues isn't unheard of. Yes I agree he was rushed, but this could become a good thing, he was a member of the 2005 draft class, and although the injury set him back, he was known to be the cream of the crop of that class. I personally think that he can work on his control here, limit his walks, and be to us this year what Volstad was last year.

West was rushed, and he was fortunate last night. He's not the answer...not now. Bringing him up was a mistake.

 

 

Who else could we have brought up that wouldnt have killed our pen? He did well i thought, kinda wild. Hitters didnt seem to get great swings on his fastball and his slider was good. But he did seem to lose it once he gave up those 2 hard singles and he started walking guys. I was just happy to see a call up not suck. I didnt want him up this early but if he can go 5 or 6 giving up 2 runs or so ill take it. Ill be interested to see what happens if he gets a second start and hitters have somewhat of a scouting report on him.

Ya, you really cant take much away from that first start. It was a decent debut and its not like the Rays or anyone for that matter really had a book on him.

 

We'll see what happens after 3 or 4 starts.

 

 

But the only thing that can be agreed on is that he was rushed and since everyone else seems to suck donkey testicles, might as well go trying to find lightning in a bottle.

West was rushed, and he was fortunate last night. He's not the answer...not now. Bringing him up was a mistake.

 

 

Who else could we have brought up that wouldnt have killed our pen? He did well i thought, kinda wild. Hitters didnt seem to get great swings on his fastball and his slider was good. But he did seem to lose it once he gave up those 2 hard singles and he started walking guys. I was just happy to see a call up not suck. I didnt want him up this early but if he can go 5 or 6 giving up 2 runs or so ill take it. Ill be interested to see what happens if he gets a second start and hitters have somewhat of a scouting report on him.

 

 

I'd rather see Badenhop's mediocrity, than having to rush one of the long-term future pieces of this team, in West.

 

West has control issues, and he only has 2 pitches. 4.65 ERA in 8 AA starts. He was surrendering the long ball, at a solid rate.

 

The big leagues isn't the place to "work on things," sorry.

 

We are just Andrew Millerizing him, at this point, for no reason.

West was rushed, and he was fortunate last night. He's not the answer...not now. Bringing him up was a mistake.

 

 

Who else could we have brought up that wouldnt have killed our pen? He did well i thought, kinda wild. Hitters didnt seem to get great swings on his fastball and his slider was good. But he did seem to lose it once he gave up those 2 hard singles and he started walking guys. I was just happy to see a call up not suck. I didnt want him up this early but if he can go 5 or 6 giving up 2 runs or so ill take it. Ill be interested to see what happens if he gets a second start and hitters have somewhat of a scouting report on him.

 

 

I'd rather see Badenhop's mediocrity, than having to rush one of the long-term future pieces of this team, in West.

 

West has control issues, and he only has 2 pitches. 4.65 ERA in 8 AA starts. He was surrendering the long ball, at a solid rate.

 

The big leagues isn't the place to "work on things," sorry.

 

We are just Andrew Millerizing him, at this point, for no reason.

 

The difference between West and Miller is that West has actually pitched in the minors. Miller was called up to the majors in his first year as a pro and has been there most of the time since without a single long term minor league stint. There's really not much to compare between the two.

 

What would be "Millerizing" him would to keep him in the majors even if he was incredibly ineffective.

West was rushed, and he was fortunate last night. He's not the answer...not now. Bringing him up was a mistake.

 

 

Who else could we have brought up that wouldnt have killed our pen? He did well i thought, kinda wild. Hitters didnt seem to get great swings on his fastball and his slider was good. But he did seem to lose it once he gave up those 2 hard singles and he started walking guys. I was just happy to see a call up not suck. I didnt want him up this early but if he can go 5 or 6 giving up 2 runs or so ill take it. Ill be interested to see what happens if he gets a second start and hitters have somewhat of a scouting report on him.

 

 

I'd rather see Badenhop's mediocrity, than having to rush one of the long-term future pieces of this team, in West.

 

West has control issues, and he only has 2 pitches. 4.65 ERA in 8 AA starts. He was surrendering the long ball, at a solid rate.

 

The big leagues isn't the place to "work on things," sorry.

 

We are just Andrew Millerizing him, at this point, for no reason.

 

The difference between West and Miller is that West has actually pitched in the minors. Miller was called up to the majors in his first year as a pro and has been there most of the time since without a single long term minor league stint. There's really not much to compare between the two.

 

What would be "Millerizing" him would to keep him in the majors even if he was incredibly ineffective.

 

West was a high school draft pick, Miller came from college. College ball is basically the lower minors. Miller has just as many starts in AA ball and higher as West does (8), and West is only AA unlike Miller who has several AAA starts.

West was rushed, and he was fortunate last night. He's not the answer...not now. Bringing him up was a mistake.

 

 

Who else could we have brought up that wouldnt have killed our pen? He did well i thought, kinda wild. Hitters didnt seem to get great swings on his fastball and his slider was good. But he did seem to lose it once he gave up those 2 hard singles and he started walking guys. I was just happy to see a call up not suck. I didnt want him up this early but if he can go 5 or 6 giving up 2 runs or so ill take it. Ill be interested to see what happens if he gets a second start and hitters have somewhat of a scouting report on him.

 

 

I'd rather see Badenhop's mediocrity, than having to rush one of the long-term future pieces of this team, in West.

 

West has control issues, and he only has 2 pitches. 4.65 ERA in 8 AA starts. He was surrendering the long ball, at a solid rate.

 

The big leagues isn't the place to "work on things," sorry.

 

We are just Andrew Millerizing him, at this point, for no reason.

 

The difference between West and Miller is that West has actually pitched in the minors. Miller was called up to the majors in his first year as a pro and has been there most of the time since without a single long term minor league stint. There's really not much to compare between the two.

 

What would be "Millerizing" him would to keep him in the majors even if he was incredibly ineffective.

 

West was a high school draft pick, Miller came from college. College ball is basically the lower minors. Miller has just as many starts in AA ball and higher as West does (8), and West is only AA unlike Miller who has several AAA starts.

 

Its still a different situation. Miller had 5 professional innings before he pitched in the big leagues. He struggled in the major leagues his second year and was handed a starting job uncontested in his third year despite not yet having shown what it takes to be a major league pitcher. Whats worse is that it was obvious he was struggling majorly with confidence and had serious command issues (the type that is not shown merely in walk numbers)and on top of that was supposed to throw close to 100 mph yet barely touched 90 in his time last year. And after all that we still gave him a starting spot this year.

 

West has at least had two full seasons of pitching in A ball where he has gotten used to the professional game. I'm not saying the situation is ideal but there is a tremendous difference between rushing a guy from AA and putting a guy practically straight out of college in the majors. And the real problem with Miller wasn't just that he was rushed, it's that we refused to give him legitimate time in AAA to work on what were obvious problems that had developed from his being rushed.