This isn't Beinfest's first rodeo people.

 

If you're the GM of team X and you wanted Uggla, don't you think you'd get the word out to Beinfest with your super-terrific proposal? It ain't a secret he was being shopped.

"At first, I was really upset about this trade, but because MarlinsLou said we're fine, I'm totally feeling awesome about it! "

 

Give me a break. It's a horrendous trade, and 2011 is not looking very good unless something drastic happens.

 

Why don't you focus your attention on beating the Gators for the first time in 6 years, and leave baseball to the men.

 

I'd love to see you write me something half intelligent on this math equation:

 

Buck. Infante, Webb, Dunn, Mujica, Richardson, and around $3 million to spend in 2011 > Uggla, Maybin, A. Miller

 

Go for it. I encourage you to try and balance this. But it's really an unfair question, because we have to move out Nunez, Paulino, Badenhop, and Veras first via trade or dfa, and spend the extra money to see the big picture.

 

Fu*king cacciarone over here...

 

Uggla, Webb, Mujica, Richardson > Buck, Infante, Dunn

 

Seriously, you're too reliant on Buck repeating his '10 numbers when there's a decent chance it doesn't happen.

I agree that those numbers were heavy on Buck, but it's also worth waiting to see what we do with the other $6M a year from that 4/48 offer.

After reading into what the Blue Jays offered for Uggla, I'm sort of happy we traded for Infante and Dunn, instead of a bunch of scrap heap minor leaguers.

 

 

Thanks for the input, Rook.

 

Just like some of the other geniuses on this board, you seem to know about every possible offer that was made for Uggla. Tell me more...

There is a reason Uggla's FMV was Infante and a LH RP. It would be naive to think otherwise.

 

There obviously is a reason. Desperate sellers get hosed every single time. If you know that the other guy is not willing to walk away empty handed ... you can get anything for pennies on the dollar.

We did not get pennies on the dollar. Braves fans are going to hate playing Mike Dunn the next couple of years. He is nasty nasty nasty.

 

Big picture people. Bullpen is awesome, defense is massively improved (assuming greater heads prevail and Coghlan goes to 2B/3B and they get a veteran CF to stopgap), and not much offense has been lost (if any because our catching situation and Maybin were that bad).... offensive improvement though is coming from Stanton, Morrison, Coghlan, and Gaby growing up. And, from Hanley reverting to 2008-2009 and not 2010. Buck and Infante just have to hold their own, which is not asking for a lot.

 

Not a big deal.

i woulda taken Martin Prado over Omar Infante

i woulda taken Martin Prado over Omar Infante

 

 

According to sources, the Marlins asked for Prado but the Braves said no.

And yes, Uggla turning down that kind of money is maddening but it doesn't mean you rush into an impulsive trade. It means you wait until the break and trade him when demand is higher and a better deal presents itself.

 

 

And if there's no better deal in July?

 

This move allows you to address multiple issues with the team and arguably make the team better right now all things considered.

 

It is funny also that you criticize Buck's somewhat flukey 10 season and don't address Uggla's.

How was Uggla's '10 flukey when he did the same thing in 2008 and wasn't all that far off in 2009? Buck has never posted those kind of numbers until last year. Sure, you can look at it as a guy coming into his own. I just don't see it that way.

So this is how you build a fanbase...noted

This is also not the worst trade in Marlins history as some called it. We all know which one takes the cake there.

i woulda taken Martin Prado over Omar Infante

 

 

i wouldn't take either over Uggla

i woulda taken Martin Prado over Omar Infante

 

 

Word is Beinfest did ask for that, as well as Venters... didnt happen, Infante and Dunn were the next best option. Its not a bad deal in the real world. You cant just get the players you want everytime

This is also not the worst trade in Marlins history as some called it. We all know which one takes the cake there.

 

 

did this trade which you speak of come full-circle this past weekend?

So this is how you build a fanbase...noted

 

 

I hate posts like this. Building a fanbase is done by winning with the best possible players. Overpaying Uggla at $71 million would have appeased the fans for a year, then when Uggla started to regress and we are stuck in a stupid Cubs/Mets-like heavy contract and cant buy any better players??? THATs building a fanbase to you?

 

Building a fanbase is offering one of your best players a FAIR $48 million deal... then, when he declines is, trading his greedy ass out ASAP so that you can rebuild the whole that greedy guy left you in. Uggla burnt his bridge with the FO, it was time to move on. And Infante, Dunn, and Buck were step one in moving on. Soon enough, you will not miss Uggla.