November 17, 201015 yr While I'm saddened to leave the Marlins family and thankful for all they did for me in my career, I'm certainly MORE excited to join the #Braves' organization." Uggla lives in Nashville, a drive of several hours from Atlanta. #Marlins #MLB What a dick thing to say.
November 17, 201015 yr While I'm saddened to leave the Marlins family and thankful for all they did for me in my career, I'm certainly MORE excited to join the #Braves' organization." Uggla lives in Nashville, a drive of several hours from Atlanta. #Marlins #MLB What a dick thing to say. This.
November 17, 201015 yr On another note, Buck sucks at fielding. 28% CS (league average is around 32%) and 78% career bunts fielded to outs (league average is 82%). And 2010 was his first year since '05 above 0 in +/-.
November 17, 201015 yr Cappozi wrote a day ago about "clubhouse tension" between Hanley and Uggla. We all remember the clash over not playing injured. This explains what has been going on all along: he never backed down from initial demand of 5yr/$71 million Hanley got $70 million (6 years.) Uggla obviously wanted to one-up him. 71 is a completely arbitrary, odd number with no logic behind it unless it's looked at in relation to Hanley. Hard to believe that ol' "See ball, hit ball" is that much of a chickensh!t, but there you go. I'm glad he's gone. No point in even overpaying for 4 years, never mind 5. And ATL's defense did just get worse. Who knows, they might even be dumb enough to pay 5/71. If not, he's probably elsewhere in '12. That he isn't signed or controlled beyond '11 is the reason his value has been only moderate for over a year.
November 17, 201015 yr Cappozi wrote a day ago about "clubhouse tension" between Hanley and Uggla. We all remember the clash over not playing injured. This explains what has been going on all along: he never backed down from initial demand of 5yr/$71 million Hanley got $70 million (6 years.) Uggla obviously wanted to one-up him. 71 is a completely arbitrary, odd number with no logic behind it unless it's looked at in relation to Hanley. Hard to believe that ol' "See ball, hit ball" is that much of a chickensh!t, but there you go. I'm glad he's gone. No point in even overpaying for 4 years, never mind 5. And ATL's defense did just get worse. Who knows, they might even be dumb enough to pay 5/71. If not, he's probably elsewhere in '12. That he isn't signed or controlled beyond '11 is the reason his value has been only moderate for over a year. i just said that above.
November 17, 201015 yr If Uggla really wanted 5yr/$71 then he needs a reality check. There's no way he gets more than Utley.
November 17, 201015 yr Cappozi wrote a day ago about "clubhouse tension" between Hanley and Uggla. We all remember the clash over not playing injured. This explains what has been going on all along: he never backed down from initial demand of 5yr/$71 million Hanley got $70 million (6 years.) Uggla obviously wanted to one-up him. 71 is a completely arbitrary, odd number with no logic behind it unless it's looked at in relation to Hanley. Hard to believe that ol' "See ball, hit ball" is that much of a chickensh!t, but there you go. I'm glad he's gone. No point in even overpaying for 4 years, never mind 5. And ATL's defense did just get worse. Who knows, they might even be dumb enough to pay 5/71. If not, he's probably elsewhere in '12. That he isn't signed or controlled beyond '11 is the reason his value has been only moderate for over a year. You're probably right about the $71M being one-upsmanship. That being said, he therefore won't ask for that from the Braves. He'll ask for something the Braves can afford and we'll be facing him for a long time. Should have kept him here until mid-season and traded him to a contender. We probably would have gotten a better deal and with a different team. It's hard to imagine any additional move the Marlins are really likely to make that could offset this.
November 17, 201015 yr If all this $71 million talk is true... I'm now dying to hear Hanley's side of this. I doubt we get his true response but I'm dying to know what he thinks of his buddy now. If this is the way it truly is, Uggla can enjoy playing elsewhere, he's not Hanley, period. Its amazing how quickly we have apparently soured on Uggla's attitude.
November 17, 201015 yr ahhh welll look at this: "The Marlins asked for Martin Prado in exchange for Uggla and were told no, then shifted their attention to Infante, says a source" they definitely should have demanded prado or at least venters. one of the two. we basicall got the two back ups.
November 17, 201015 yr ahhh welll look at this: "The Marlins asked for Martin Prado in exchange for Uggla and were told no, then shifted their attention to Infante, says a source" they definitely should have demanded prado or at least venters. one of the two. we basicall got the two back ups. source?
November 17, 201015 yr We just got FLEECED, fleeced again. Beinfest trading Uggla on the first day of winter meetings to a team we'll see 20 times a year, what a moron.
November 17, 201015 yr Jesus f***ing Christ.... On a plus side, atleast we got an all-star back...albeit the shittiest one there was.
November 17, 201015 yr It really would've been better to just hold on to him until the trade deadline. I really hope we aren't done this offseason
November 17, 201015 yr im not upset that he's gone, he was gonna be gone anyway, i hate the fact that we got basically nothing in return
November 17, 201015 yr Jesus f***ing Christ.... On a plus side, atleast we got an all-star back...albeit the shittiest one there was.
November 17, 201015 yr Jesus f***ing Christ.... On a plus side, atleast we got an all-star back...albeit the shittiest one there was. Dont get me started... if theres one thing I really hate about Infante, is his All-Star selection. We all agreed that his pick should have gone to Uggla... he was an All Star for no good reason.
November 17, 201015 yr Uh, what?! IS THE MARLINS FRONT OFFICE F'N NUTS?!!!?!!?!!??!??!?!??!!! As Rays fan I was envious of the Marlins' Uggla. WTF?!
November 17, 201015 yr I really hope we aren't done this offseason It would take something incredible like signing Lee, Crawford, or Werth to offset this trade. Not happening.
November 17, 201015 yr ahhh welll look at this: "The Marlins asked for Martin Prado in exchange for Uggla and were told no, then shifted their attention to Infante, says a source" they definitely should have demanded prado or at least venters. one of the two. we basicall got the two back ups. source? jerry crasnick
November 17, 201015 yr I'm not really shocked that Uggla's FMV was Infante and Dunn. From a homer's perspective Uggla is a top end 2B but in reality he is only coveted by a handful of teams.
November 17, 201015 yr If it is true that Uggla did not budge from an impossible demand, then I still blame Beinfest. Uggla not really wanting to get a deal done is understandable considering how poorly this team has managed its talent.
November 17, 201015 yr If it is true that Uggla did not budge from an impossible demand, then I still blame Beinfest. Uggla not really wanting to get a deal done is understandable considering how poorly this team has managed its talent. How do you figure?
November 17, 201015 yr 2010 WAR Uggla 5.1 Paulino 1.1 Maybin .4 Buck 2.9 Infante 2.1 Whoever plays 3B/CF opposite CC needs a 1.6 Yes, I understand it is very rough math, but Uggla DID overachieve on BABIP and his defense isn't going to get better. Buck's numbers are better outside of Toronto lately and catchers usually come into their own older. Infante, has done this for two years and that is not asking for a lot. Not included in this, is the additional players we will sign with the money Uggla is not getting. Oh, and the multiple multiple relievers we have received who are all awesome. We don't live in a land of infinite payroll where we keep Uggla and add things around him. Big picture people. Our offense has lost nothing, our bullpen is better, and we have Nunez (and Paulino, Badenhop, and Veras if possible) to trade and $5 million more to spend. It would have been nice to also plop a good B+ or better SP prospect on top of Infante/Dunn (Dunn is awesome btw), but the Marlins did their due diligence. BIG PICTURE. I have -0- problems with Uggla, Maybin, and Miller trades, and the Buck free agency signing. We are a better team right now, than we were a week ago.
November 17, 201015 yr If it is true that Uggla did not budge from an impossible demand, then I still blame Beinfest. Uggla not really wanting to get a deal done is understandable considering how poorly this team has managed its talent. How do you figure? I do not agree... but I think he's saying Beinfest's supposed mismanagement of this team in the past (Cody? Cabrera? Willingham?) is what led to Uggla not really wanting to be here unless it was above $70 million. Thats a convoluted way to blame Beinfest... to me, thats Uggla being a prick... But whatever.
November 17, 201015 yr If it is true that Uggla did not budge from an impossible demand, then I still blame Beinfest. Uggla not really wanting to get a deal done is understandable considering how poorly this team has managed its talent. heh.
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