gizmo Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Marlins sweep the Nationals and Bonifacio extends his hitting streak to 26 games. W: Sanches (4-1) L: Lannan (7-7) 2B: H Ramirez (15); B Hayes (6) HR: M Stanton (24) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAnomaly Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Very nice. They've been playing good baseball lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlins2219 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Brett Hayes needs to start more often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada-marlin24 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 solid work by the bullpen but hand is just not ready. great base running by cameron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Wes Helms less. :exercise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinKidd101 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 1... more... win.... :pray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlins2219 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Bonifacio looks great at the plate and I love how the Marlins are being more aggressive on the bases (Cameron, Boni, Wise). What is wrong with Wes Helms though???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoFishGoMs628 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I was going to vote the bullpen but then thought, no. Brett Hayes needs to get more attention and more starts at catcher at least let him start more for the rest of the year. Can't wait for the catcher competition in spring training next year. Hand shouldn't be pitching in the majors, when a pitcher has more balls thrown than strikes he needs to remain in the minors. I know we don't have "MANY" options, but lets at least let "ANOTHER" option try his luck at pitching. I thought Hand's reaction was comical, do you actually expect Jack to leave you out there when youre throwing balls all over the place and we "STILL" have a chance to win. Play to win. Gotta love Boner, I've always loved speed back to the Castillo days then Pierre now Boner is streaking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishFan88 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I love beating the Nats. They're as predictable as rebound sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I was going to vote the bullpen but then thought, no. Brett Hayes needs to get more attention and more starts at catcher at least let him start more for the rest of the year. Can't wait for the catcher competition in spring training next year. Hand shouldn't be pitching in the majors, when a pitcher has more balls thrown than strikes he needs to remain in the minors. I know we don't have "MANY" options, but lets at least let "ANOTHER" option try his luck at pitching. I thought Hand's reaction was comical, do you actually expect Jack to leave you out there when youre throwing balls all over the place and we "STILL" have a chance to win. Play to win. Gotta love Boner, I've always loved speed back to the Castillo days then Pierre now Boner is streaking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoFishGoMs628 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I was going to vote the bullpen but then thought, no. Brett Hayes needs to get more attention and more starts at catcher at least let him start more for the rest of the year. Can't wait for the catcher competition in spring training next year. Hand shouldn't be pitching in the majors, when a pitcher has more balls thrown than strikes he needs to remain in the minors. I know we don't have "MANY" options, but lets at least let "ANOTHER" option try his luck at pitching. I thought Hand's reaction was comical, do you actually expect Jack to leave you out there when youre throwing balls all over the place and we "STILL" have a chance to win. Play to win. Gotta love Boner, I've always loved speed back to the Castillo days then Pierre now Boner is streaking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I was going to vote the bullpen but then thought, no. Brett Hayes needs to get more attention and more starts at catcher at least let him start more for the rest of the year. Can't wait for the catcher competition in spring training next year. Hand shouldn't be pitching in the majors, when a pitcher has more balls thrown than strikes he needs to remain in the minors. I know we don't have "MANY" options, but lets at least let "ANOTHER" option try his luck at pitching. I thought Hand's reaction was comical, do you actually expect Jack to leave you out there when youre throwing balls all over the place and we "STILL" have a chance to win. Play to win. Gotta love Boner, I've always loved speed back to the Castillo days then Pierre now Boner is streaking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordMagnus Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Mike Stanton is gonna be the best thing to ever happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I was going to vote the bullpen but then thought, no. Brett Hayes needs to get more attention and more starts at catcher at least let him start more for the rest of the year. Can't wait for the catcher competition in spring training next year. Hand shouldn't be pitching in the majors, when a pitcher has more balls thrown than strikes he needs to remain in the minors. I know we don't have "MANY" options, but lets at least let "ANOTHER" option try his luck at pitching. I thought Hand's reaction was comical, do you actually expect Jack to leave you out there when youre throwing balls all over the place and we "STILL" have a chance to win. Play to win. Gotta love Boner, I've always loved speed back to the Castillo days then Pierre now Boner is streaking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoFishGoMs628 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I was going to vote the bullpen but then thought, no. Brett Hayes needs to get more attention and more starts at catcher at least let him start more for the rest of the year. Can't wait for the catcher competition in spring training next year. Hand shouldn't be pitching in the majors, when a pitcher has more balls thrown than strikes he needs to remain in the minors. I know we don't have "MANY" options, but lets at least let "ANOTHER" option try his luck at pitching. I thought Hand's reaction was comical, do you actually expect Jack to leave you out there when youre throwing balls all over the place and we "STILL" have a chance to win. Play to win. Gotta love Boner, I've always loved speed back to the Castillo days then Pierre now Boner is streaking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I was going to vote the bullpen but then thought, no. Brett Hayes needs to get more attention and more starts at catcher at least let him start more for the rest of the year. Can't wait for the catcher competition in spring training next year. Hand shouldn't be pitching in the majors, when a pitcher has more balls thrown than strikes he needs to remain in the minors. I know we don't have "MANY" options, but lets at least let "ANOTHER" option try his luck at pitching. I thought Hand's reaction was comical, do you actually expect Jack to leave you out there when youre throwing balls all over the place and we "STILL" have a chance to win. Play to win. Gotta love Boner, I've always loved speed back to the Castillo days then Pierre now Boner is streaking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoFishGoMs628 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 1. Sabermetrics don't say that. 2. Hayes' production is nice, but it's also based on a small sample size. 3. Whether you like it or not, it's a business. The Marlins aren't going to be paying John Buck $6 mill per year to make room for Brett Hayes, who's never even shown signs of being a good hitter in the minor leagues. Erick don't try to tell me they don't say that, because they do I will post the numbers for you below. John Buck's BA/PA 2004: .235/258 2005: .242/430 2006: .245/409 2007: .222/399 2008: .224/418 2009: .247/202 2010: .281/437 2011: .226/355 2011: ZiPS (U): .233/511 ------ Hayes doesn't need to show he's been a good hitter in the minors if he shows he's a good hitter in the majors, which he has for the most part so far. ------ Yea it's a business, you don't sign a catcher who has 1 good year to a 3 year contract, dumb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtisticHate Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Damn those Reds for not being more helpful. Great to be 1 game away from .500 though, it will be even better if we can get it tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 That's not sabermetrics? You said sabermetrics say he'll never hit more than .240. If anything, sabermetrics say he has an unfortunate .257 .BABIP this year. Plus, if he gets up to .240-.250 with the batting average, that's more productive than the .240's of year's past because he's walking at a decent rate this year. You're also not taking into consideration that he's a catcher. Despite how terrible his year might seem, he has a 1.5 WAR. There aren't many good everyday catchers in the big leagues. If you're a sabermetrics guy, you'd see that Brett Hayes numbers are not sustainable. He has a .333 .BABIP (entering the day), a 5.1 BB%, and a ~27K%. The .BABIP is almost impossible to sustain and the K/BB ratio is just horrible. Start him every day, and you'll wish John Buck was back there again. You're basing your opinion on Hayes based on the fact that he's been productive over the course of 80+ plate appearances. That's not a telling sample. That's basically only a month of playing. John Buck has had good months, too. As a matter of fact, John Buck's numbers are trending upward as he's been more productive each and every month. Since you seem to like small samples, Buck has posted a very nice .766 .OPS (.262/.351/.415) in 72 plate appearances this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWiener Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Triple Hayes' playing time and see how he looks, my guess would be .600 OPS before he hits the DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love Me Some Fish Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Stanton's HR went 455 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Stanton's HR went 455 Really? Didn't seem to be that far. Damn. Actually when he hit it I thought he got jammed til I saw Bernadina running back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love Me Some Fish Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Stanton's HR went 455 Really? Didn't seem to be that far. Damn. Actually when he hit it I thought he got jammed til I saw Bernadina running back. Went pretty far up...plus it was nearly to dead center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Stanton's HR went 455 Really? Didn't seem to be that far. Damn. Actually when he hit it I thought he got jammed til I saw Bernadina running back. Went pretty far up...plus it was nearly to dead center. This is true ... So ... when's he gonna get really into one like in NY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAnomaly Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I complain about Buck a lot, but lately, he has looked much better. Along with what Erick mentioned, his line drive % is up to 17.3 with his career avg. at 16.9. It was much lower than that earlier in the season, so that is a great sign. He also has more walks this year, which is also a good sign. He just needs to keep it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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