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There are some pretty solid guys on that list. People seem to forget that he is 24 because he's been pitching in the bigs since age 20

I really won't throw a fit if he's the #5. Yes of course he can be bad. But he has pretty decent stretches as well. I mean if we acquire someone demonstrably better, sure by all means. But still young, still room for improvement.

I honestly can live with him at #5.

The difference is most of the pitchers you posted showed some sort of improvement in their first 4 years. Volstad can be a number 5 if you have solid #'s 1-3 which we have now. If you want a world series though I don't think Nolasco + Volstad can get it done, not in this division.

The difference is most of the pitchers you posted showed some sort of improvement in their first 4 years. Volstad can be a number 5 if you have solid #'s 1-3 which we have now. If you want a world series though I don't think Nolasco + Volstad can get it done, not in this division.

 

 

if you get to the playoffs they'd likely go with a 4-man rotation anyway.

A healthy JJ and with the addition of MB and Heath Bell will make everybody else better on the rotation . Just my opinion

The difference is most of the pitchers you posted showed some sort of improvement in their first 4 years. Volstad can be a number 5 if you have solid #'s 1-3 which we have now. If you want a world series though I don't think Nolasco + Volstad can get it done, not in this division.

 

 

if you get to the playoffs they'd likely go with a 4-man rotation anyway.

 

I know, however at this point I would rather not give Nolasco a world series start. Nolasco gave up the MOST hits of the national league in 2011. No thanks.

the marlins ruled out edwin jackson but i think a pitcher no one is talking about that will upgrade our rotation and that is paul maholm.

Nolasco's babip was just absurd.

The difference is most of the pitchers you posted showed some sort of improvement in their first 4 years. Volstad can be a number 5 if you have solid #'s 1-3 which we have now. If you want a world series though I don't think Nolasco + Volstad can get it done, not in this division.

 

Last season, Chris Volstad posted the lowest BB/9 of his career, as well as the highest K/9 in his career. His GB% was also the highest it's been in his 3 full seasons. His LD% rose, but his FB% fell more than 3x as much as his LD% rose.

 

He's shown improvement. Let's not be blinded simply because he's not an ace or #2 guy.

Is there a way he can only pitch to righties?

Both Nolasco and Volstad have to go.

 

On Volstad improving, he was 7th worst in ERA+ in '10 and moved up to 5th worst in '11 so good job there.

dont worry guys gio and darvish are going to take nolasco and volstad spot in the rotation :jacobs

dont worry guys gio and darvish are going to take nolasco and volstad spot in the rotation :jacobs

 

replace gio and darvish with TBA and Nolasco and you're totally on point

The difference is most of the pitchers you posted showed some sort of improvement in their first 4 years. Volstad can be a number 5 if you have solid #'s 1-3 which we have now. If you want a world series though I don't think Nolasco + Volstad can get it done, not in this division.

 

Last season, Chris Volstad posted the lowest BB/9 of his career, as well as the highest K/9 in his career. His GB% was also the highest it's been in his 3 full seasons. His LD% rose, but his FB% fell more than 3x as much as his LD% rose.

 

He's shown improvement. Let's not be blinded simply because he's not an ace or #2 guy.

 

I agree. Would I take a Saunders if the price was right to fill out this rotation? Absolutely. Do I think Volstad is going to continue to improve? 100%. Just like I believe Nolasco is going to come into this season guns blazing and really have a good year, his stuff is simply too good not to. Maybe I'm too optimistic...

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There are some pretty solid guys on that list. People seem to forget that he is 24 because he's been pitching in the bigs since age 20

 

Good point. Plus other guys were worse through 25 like Chris Carpenter

Im fine with Volstad as the fifth but if we are able to bring in another starter, do it. Just not Nate Robertson.

WARNING THIS IS JUST A THOUGHT--- If all else fails how about trading for Johan Santana :raining

the marlins ruled out edwin jackson but i think a pitcher no one is talking about that will upgrade our rotation and that is paul maholm.

 

Jackson-The 28 y/o guy with career numbers ERA of 4.46, BABIP of .311 and WHIP of 1.48? Yeah, I guess he's ruled out.

the marlins ruled out edwin jackson but i think a pitcher no one is talking about that will upgrade our rotation and that is paul maholm.

 

Jackson-The 28 y/o guy with career numbers ERA of 4.46, BABIP of .311 and WHIP of 1.48? Yeah, I guess he's ruled out.

 

Right because his early years with the Rays when he was a totally different pitcher are totally relevant now...

Both Nolasco and Volstad have to go.

 

On Volstad improving, he was 7th worst in ERA+ in '10 and moved up to 5th worst in '11 so good job there.

 

Among qualified starters? I would expect most guys with worse ERA+s to not qualify, but then he gets punished for being more durable.

the marlins ruled out edwin jackson but i think a pitcher no one is talking about that will upgrade our rotation and that is paul maholm.

 

Jackson-The 28 y/o guy with career numbers ERA of 4.46, BABIP of .311 and WHIP of 1.48? Yeah, I guess he's ruled out.

I don't think you understand what BABIP is.

the marlins ruled out edwin jackson but i think a pitcher no one is talking about that will upgrade our rotation and that is paul maholm.

 

Jackson-The 28 y/o guy with career numbers ERA of 4.46, BABIP of .311 and WHIP of 1.48? Yeah, I guess he's ruled out.

His last three years he has a combined 3.95 ERA and his K/BB has risen every year. Also, his BABIP was ridiculous in '06, '07 and '10, not to mention this year too and he still managed to post an ERA under 4. It was also above average in '09. In other words, his numbers have been victimized by bad defense.

 

He's a solid 3-5.

He pitches to contact for ground balls, I think what people tend to forget is our defense in the infield is garbage. It's what explains Nolasco's stats to an extent too (what was his BABIP?). If Hanely can man 3b well and with Reyes at short, maybe there numbers start to pick up. Im not saying they become solid over one signing, but you can only hope for the best if we really are sticking with them next year.

He pitches to contact for ground balls, I think what people tend to forget is our defense in the infield is garbage. It's what explains Nolasco's stats to an extent too (what was his BABIP?). If Hanely can man 3b well and with Reyes at short, maybe there numbers start to pick up. Im not saying they become solid over one signing, but you can only hope for the best if we really are sticking with them next year.

 

Nolasco's BABIP was ridiculous as well. .331. His FIP was 3.54. Which is why I have no problem with him staying, despite being overpaid because once Hanley agrees to the switch and we don't have a -8 at SS, that should regulate a bit. Not that Reyes is a gold glover either but he's not half as bad as Hanley has been the last two years there.

 

Replacing LoMo would really help as well but that doesn't look likely so hopefully he improves and isn't the same disaster he was there last year.