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Full list of moves:

 

Optioned to AAA: Tom Koehler, Sandy Rosario, Alex Sanabia, Daniel Jennings, Matt Dominguez, Kevin Mattison

Optioned to AA: Brad Hand, Evan Reed

Re-assigned to minor league camp - Elih Villanueva, Kyle Skipworth, Jeff Dominguez

 

Source:http://joefrisaro.mlblogs.com/2012/03/18/marlins-make-series-of-roster-moves/

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Not to mention that some are actually doing pretty well in Spring Training. I don't really follow it every day, but Coghlan was hitting over .400 just the other day? And Kearns #'s were solid, too.

 

Sirspud wants a superstar 4th OF'er. We should pay a 4th OF'er a lot of money like the Cubs did with Soriano since that contract wasn't even that bad...

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Cogs and Kearns seem to be doing pretty good so far. Rowand and cousins definately seem like the men out at the moment.

 

 

Yea, Kearns is showing the bat but his problem is not being able to play all three OF positions, something that almost all the others can do. And with the recent injury history of Hanley and Reyes, Boni projects to play quite a few games in the infield and someone has to play in CF.

 

I REALLY hope Coghlan can regain his old offensive form. So many people here are down on him, but really for no reason. He had a few unfortunate injuries, but the guy has always hit at every level and there is no reason to think his ROY season was a fluke. I hope LoMo and Giancarlo are healthy, but god for bid they need some rest i hope this guy can step in and swing it.

 

As for Cousins and Rowand, they look all but out right now. That leave you with Coghlan and Peterson, which is a strong pair of backup outfielders. Both guys can play all three OF spots, and Peterson is your go-to defensive specialist/cannon arm/speed off the bench guy. Only advantages Kearns has over Petey that could land him the job are right handed (Coghs and Petey are both left-handed hitters, plus Dobbs off the bench, not enough righies in the dugout), power, and experience.

 

Plus, Kearns is not a cast member of the Petey and LoMo show, which will obviously be cancelled if Petey is in New Orleans. Unless LoMo tweets his way back there, too.

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So many people here are down on [Coghlan], but really for no reason.

 

 

 

Well, maybe some people are down on him for no reason, or a really irrationally reason like they don't like his haircut, or something.

 

But most people are down on him because he has a .252/.318/.376 (.695) line over his last 156 games and 698 plate appearances, dating back to the start of 2010.

 

He has 12 months where has received at least 65 plate appearances at the major league level. 7 of those 12 months have produced an OPS below .700.

 

He has been a bad player more often than he has been a good player at the major league level. So to say people are 'down on him' for 'really no reason' is a weird thing to say.

 

I hope he can bounce back. But there's more evidence that he is bad than that he is good.

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Coghlan's "old form" was when he had a BABIP of .365, so don't expect that to be easily repeated.

 

Actually, if you look at the splits in 2009, the picture is even worse. In the first half, his BABIP was .297 (.677 OPS). That might be a little low, because he projects to be on the other side of .300. Still, if you adjust that he's probably a low .720s hitter at best.

 

What boosted his numbers in 2009 was the second half where he had a BABIP of .406. Yeah, that's not going to happen again for a sustained period of time.

 

The fact that he sucks at defense and plays no real position makes his situation much worse.

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So many people here are down on [Coghlan], but really for no reason.

 

 

 

Well, maybe some people are down on him for no reason, or a really irrationally reason like they don't like his haircut, or something.

 

But most people are down on him because he has a .252/.318/.376 (.695) line over his last 156 games and 698 plate appearances, dating back to the start of 2010.

 

He has 12 months where has received at least 65 plate appearances at the major league level. 7 of those 12 months have produced an OPS below .700.

 

He has been a bad player more often than he has been a good player at the major league level. So to say people are 'down on him' for 'really no reason' is a weird thing to say.

 

I hope he can bounce back. But there's more evidence that he is bad than that he is good.

 

Yes, but the other side of this arguement is that he never got consistent playing time after his rookie year due to health, he could never find a rhythm. My arguement doesn't have numbers to support it, so I suppose I lose, but his career numbers are still not too bad and show that there's a good hitter there somewhere. He succeeded at EVERY level offensively, no idea why he would just hit a wall at his prime age... If he gets regular at-bats, look for him to make a comeback.

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Cogs and Kearns seem to be doing pretty good so far. Rowand and cousins definately seem like the men out at the moment.

 

 

Yea, Kearns is showing the bat but his problem is not being able to play all three OF positions, something that almost all the others can do. And with the recent injury history of Hanley and Reyes, Boni projects to play quite a few games in the infield and someone has to play in CF.

Austin Kearns has played all 3 OF positions. Aaron Rowand has played all 3 OF position. Emilio Bonifacio has played all 3 OF positions. Bryan Petersen has played all 3 OF positions. Chris Coghlan has never played RF.

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Cogs and Kearns seem to be doing pretty good so far. Rowand and cousins definately seem like the men out at the moment.

 

 

Yea, Kearns is showing the bat but his problem is not being able to play all three OF positions, something that almost all the others can do. And with the recent injury history of Hanley and Reyes, Boni projects to play quite a few games in the infield and someone has to play in CF.

Austin Kearns has played all 3 OF positions. Aaron Rowand has played all 3 OF position. Emilio Bonifacio has played all 3 OF positions. Bryan Petersen has played all 3 OF positions. Chris Coghlan has never played RF.

 

Do you think Austin Kearns can play Centerfield better than Chris Coghlan can play right? Honestly.

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Cogs and Kearns seem to be doing pretty good so far. Rowand and cousins definately seem like the men out at the moment.

 

 

Yea, Kearns is showing the bat but his problem is not being able to play all three OF positions, something that almost all the others can do. And with the recent injury history of Hanley and Reyes, Boni projects to play quite a few games in the infield and someone has to play in CF.

Austin Kearns has played all 3 OF positions. Aaron Rowand has played all 3 OF position. Emilio Bonifacio has played all 3 OF positions. Bryan Petersen has played all 3 OF positions. Chris Coghlan has never played RF.

 

Do you think Austin Kearns can play Centerfield better than Chris Coghlan can play right? Honestly.

Coghlan is a terrible defender at all defensive positions. Kearns has actually played those positions in the Major Leagues, and the defensive metrics are mixed (average to below average in CF), whereas Coghlan's defensive metrics have been terrible at all OF positions.

 

You're basing your assertion on nothing. If you're worried about age, Kearns is 31, not 40.

 

I'm not saying Kearns is necessarily the better option. But, you're just making stuff up here.

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Cogs and Kearns seem to be doing pretty good so far. Rowand and cousins definately seem like the men out at the moment.

 

 

Yea, Kearns is showing the bat but his problem is not being able to play all three OF positions, something that almost all the others can do. And with the recent injury history of Hanley and Reyes, Boni projects to play quite a few games in the infield and someone has to play in CF.

Austin Kearns has played all 3 OF positions. Aaron Rowand has played all 3 OF position. Emilio Bonifacio has played all 3 OF positions. Bryan Petersen has played all 3 OF positions. Chris Coghlan has never played RF.

 

Do you think Austin Kearns can play Centerfield better than Chris Coghlan can play right? Honestly.

Coghlan is a terrible defender at all defensive positions. Kearns has actually played those positions in the Major Leagues, and the defensive metrics are mixed (average to below average in CF), whereas Coghlan's defensive metrics have been terrible at all OF positions.

 

You're basing your assertion on nothing. If you're worried about age, Kearns is 31, not 40.

 

I'm not saying Kearns is necessarily the better option. But, you're just making stuff up here.

 

I'm not making things up, Austin Kearns simply does not have the speed/range to play centerfield effectively. I don't need any statistic to tell me that, I've watched him play and I can make that judgement based on that alone. Now, did I agree with the front offices assumption that Coghs would work out in CF? Absolutely not. But I DO think he is a much more realistic CF option than Kearns, without a doubt. Just watching the game of baseball should be able to tell you that much.

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Yes, but the other side of this arguement is that he never got consistent playing time after his rookie year due to health, he could never find a rhythm. My arguement doesn't have numbers to support it, so I suppose I lose, but his career numbers are still not too bad and show that there's a good hitter there somewhere. He succeeded at EVERY level offensively, no idea why he would just hit a wall at his prime age... If he gets regular at-bats, look for him to make a comeback.

 

 

It's not just that your argument doesn't have numbers to support it, the record shows you're pretty wrong.

 

He started 64 of the team's first 69 games before getting hurt. He was playing consistently and consistently poorly, with a .664 OPS for the season. He actually played worse as the season went on, as well.

 

In 2010 he started 87 of the team's first 98 games, and he had three months out four in which he failed to reach a .700 OPS.

 

He hasn't been in and out of the lineup, or jerked back and forth between AAA like Maybin. He has been given every opportunity to succeed.

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I'm not making things up, Austin Kearns simply does not have the speed/range to play centerfield effectively. I don't need any statistic to tell me that, I've watched him play and I can make that judgement based on that alone. Now, did I agree with the front offices assumption that Coghs would work out in CF? Absolutely not. But I DO think he is a much more realistic CF option than Kearns, without a doubt. Just watching the game of baseball should be able to tell you that much.

 

 

 

 

Chris Coghlan is a bad defensive center fielder, so the argument that he might be slightly better than Kearns doesn't hold much weight.

 

If we choose to go with either of them as the No. 4 outfielder, moving Stanton to CF in case of an emergency would likely be a much better option than either of them.

 

Coghlan has been a bad defensive outfielder everywhere he has played. There's no argument to be made that he should make the team over anyone that mentions defense. He's bad.

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Yes, but the other side of this arguement is that he never got consistent playing time after his rookie year due to health, he could never find a rhythm. My arguement doesn't have numbers to support it, so I suppose I lose, but his career numbers are still not too bad and show that there's a good hitter there somewhere. He succeeded at EVERY level offensively, no idea why he would just hit a wall at his prime age... If he gets regular at-bats, look for him to make a comeback.

 

 

It's not just that your argument doesn't have numbers to support it, the record shows you're pretty wrong.

 

He started 64 of the team's first 69 games before getting hurt. He was playing consistently and consistently poorly, with a .664 OPS for the season. He actually played worse as the season went on, as well.

 

In 2010 he started 87 of the team's first 98 games, and he had three months out four in which he failed to reach a .700 OPS.

 

He hasn't been in and out of the lineup, or jerked back and forth between AAA like Maybin. He has been given every opportunity to succeed.

 

And Coghlan's numbers also show he is a better second-half player than first-half. His rookie season he was pretty average the first three months and really turned it on in the second half. Some guys are just slow starters; look at a guy like Dan Uggla last year.

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And Coghlan's numbers also show he is a better second-half player than first-half. His rookie season he was pretty average the first three months and really turned it on in the second half. Some guys are just slow starters; look at a guy like Dan Uggla last year.

 

 

No, the numbers do not show that he is a better second-half player.

 

They show that one year he had a crazy flukey second half of the season, fueled, as Penguino pointed out like 4 posts ago, by an absurd, .406 BABIP.

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