I mean, Chris Davis please. Stanton and Davis back to back? God have mercy on the NL.

 

 

So...many...strikeouts.

 

Please just get Michael Morse. He's the smart signing this year.

 

 

Chris Davis coming off a .5 WAR season. Of course this is the player Wild Card gets an erection over.

 

 

I heard erection.

 

 

 

 

Are we having a party or what?

So...many...strikeouts.

 

Please just get Michael Morse. He's the smart signing this year.

 

 

I think Morse was the smart signing last year. Buying high on a player is never a smart signing.

 

 

Chris Davis coming off a .5 WAR season. Of course this is the player Wild Card gets an erection over.

 

 

So this is kind of a play on my comment above. Why would we buy high on a guy like Morse when we can buy low on Davis? We are talking about a guy who has barely had a career against a guy that probably had the best offensive season in the past decade by any left-handed batter in the game. Our rotation is good enough that I would give up Heaney for a couple years of Davis, it's worth the risk. Gattis would be fine as well because he has a lot more service time to offer, but Davis has shown he can be a special hitter in one of the toughest divisions in the game.

 

 

I think Morse was the smart signing last year. Buying high on a player is never a smart signing.

 

So this is kind of a play on my comment above. Why would we buy high on a guy like Morse when we can buy low on Davis? We are talking about a guy who has barely had a career against a guy that probably had the best offensive season in the past decade by any left-handed batter in the game. Our rotation is good enough that I would give up Heaney for a couple years of Davis, it's worth the risk. Gattis would be fine as well because he has a lot more service time to offer, but Davis has shown he can be a special hitter in one of the toughest divisions in the game.

 

That one Davis year is also an outlier. Not going to come close to happening again. Yea, pitching is good, but Heaney is one of the few talents that profiles as more than a 4th starter. I'd rather keep him.

 

 

Preach it brother! Brilliant!

 

 

 

 

I think Morse

was the smart signing last year. Buying high on a player is never a smart signing.

 

 

 

 

So this is kind of a play on my comment above. Why would we buy high on a guy like Morse when we can buy low on Davis? We are talking about a guy who has barely had a career against a guy that probably had the best offensive season in the past decade by any left-handed batter in the game. Our rotation is good enough that I would give up Heaney for a couple years of Davis, it's worth the risk. Gattis would be fine as well because he has a lot more service time to offer, but Davis has shown he can be a special hitter in one of the toughest divisions in the game.

 

 

That one Davis year is also an outlier. Not going to come close to happening again. Yea, pitching is good, but Heaney is one of the few talents that profiles as more than a 4th starter. I'd rather keep him.

 

 

 

Of course I don't expect him to come here and hit 50+ homers and drive in 130+ runs. But I do think he could show up and be a lot better than he was last year, and I'll take a .240/.350./500 season with 30/90 alllllllll day. Those are realistic numbers and worth Heaney every day.

both options suck. High strikeouts poor defense no average might as well call up philly and give them flynn or conley for howard and cash.

 

 

both options suck. High strikeouts poor defense no average might as well call up philly and give them flynn or conley for howard and cash.

 

 

 

Except Davis is 28.

Of course I don't expect him to come here and hit 50+ homers and drive in 130+ runs. But I do think he could show up and be a lot better than he was last year, and I'll take a .240/.350./500 season with 30/90 alllllllll day. Those are realistic numbers and worth Heaney every day.

 

Well put. I believe Heaney will become an above average #3 rotation guy but for the purpose of winning now the stat line you hope for placed around Stanton will be a bigger benefit now.

 

 

Of course I don't expect him to come here and hit 50+ homers and drive in 130+ runs. But I do think he could show up and be a lot better than he was last year, and I'll take a .240/.350./500 season with 30/90 alllllllll day. Those are realistic numbers and worth Heaney every day.

 

I see you're point but I still think the Marlins should be locking in a new core instead of parting with their best young players. Build something sustainable. Stanton isn't signed for one year, you know?

 

 

I see you're point but I still think the Marlins should be locking in a new core instead of parting with their best young players. Build something sustainable. Stanton isn't signed for one year, you know?

 

This is valid as well

 

 

I see you're point but I still think the Marlins should be locking in a new core instead of parting with their best young players. Build something sustainable. Stanton isn't signed for one year, you know?

 

 

 

I mean, I can't disagree. But Stanton and Chris Davis? Yikes that's scary power.

I mean, I can't disagree. But Stanton and Chris Davis? Yikes that's scary power.

 

I know, but what about in 2017 when Davis is crap and Heaney is a plus starter? How is Stanton feeling then?

 

Keep the homegrown talent, unless you can flip it for young talent at a position of more need, but not for a declining vet.

 

They should be talking to the Cubs and Red Sox about getting controllable infield help. I'm ok with giving Heaney for that.

 

 

I know, but what about in 2017 when Davis is crap and Heaney is a plus starter? How is Stanton feeling then?

 

Keep the homegrown talent, unless you can flip it for young talent at a position of more need, but not for a declining vet.

 

They should be talking to the Cubs and Red Sox about getting controllable infield help. I'm ok with giving Heaney for that.

 

 

 

In my opinion it depends on how close we are to contention. If the FO feels we are close NOW, then I'm inclined to say lets get Davis. If they think we're a few years out, I'm fine if they keep Heaney or move him for long term infield help. I actually trust them...

In my opinion it depends on how close we are to contention. If the FO feels we are close NOW, then I'm inclined to say lets get Davis. If they think we're a few years out, I'm fine if they keep Heaney or move him for long term infield help. I actually trust them...

 

I think this team is getting closer, but I just don't agree with the impulsive moves that are all in on 2015. Use you're assets wisely.

 

 

Yea I say make upgrades for 2015 but to go all in like it's 2015 Championship or bust would be incredibly stupid.

We are a very top heavy team.

 

Our entire IF needs upgrades. When you're best player in the IF is possibly Hechavarria, you have problems.

 

And our rotation is still a questionmark - how will Jose bounce back from surgery (just look at JJ)? Alvarez was great, but can he keep that up especially since he greatly outperformed his periphals? Meanwhile, is Eovaldi Nolasco 2.0 or will he pitch up to his peripherals? Is Koehler going to be 2013 instead of 2014? Is Heaney legit?

 

We definitely shouldn't be viewed as a rental away from competing.

 

 

Is Koehler going to be 2013 instead of 2014?

 

 

I know this is just nitpicking in the post but wouldn't you rather have 2014 Koehler? 2014 Koehler was pretty damn good even when factoring in the four truly bad starts he had all season. I'm not denying that there was a fair amount of luck involved, park factors helping him and so on but Koehler was a pretty fun surprise last season. Not just a surprise, but last season he pitched like a #3 starter (and looked like even with the inevitable worse year in 2015 could still be a pretty effective #4/5 pitcher). To be completely honest I'm far more worried about Eovaldi/Heaney keeping their spots in the rotation next season than I am of Koehler. But that is mainly because I remember that when his stuff was working last season, he pitched like one of the best pitchers on the staff. His biggest issue was that when he left his stuff in the zone it got pummeled and some games he pitched got out of hand in a real hurry.

 

But in regards to the topic at hand you are right. Far too many variables to say we're a rental away. I don't see a Price/Porcello/Shields guaranteeing us at least a Wild Card spot next season when our infield is so utterly disgusting right now. Adding Michael Morse and replacing McGehee with a 3B not an obvious candidate to suck (which won't happen because Comeback Player of the Year blah blah blah) would be better alternatives to making this team competitive going into next season. I've given up arguing over Hechavarria because I know he'll be here forever and I like the chances with a Dietrich/Hernandez at 2B better than the trade or free agent market so those are the things I think the team should be doing to improve.

 

 

That's what I mean. Koehler was good last year, but he was barely a passable #5 in 2013. Which is going to show up next year?

 

 

That's what I mean. Koehler was good last year, but he was barely a passable #5 in 2013. Which is going to show up next year?

 

 

He always seemed to do better the second year in a league. I think last year is more resembles who he will be.

 

Now just a suggestion stanton is signed. Could we trade Mcgehee? He was comeback player of the year last year. I am sure someone would give us something of value for him.

 

 

Susan Slusser ‏@susanslusser 3m3 minutes ago

 

I am hearing rumblings that the #Athletics are close to a fairly significant deal that involves Jeff Samardzija.

 

Miami -- was mentioned to be in on him.. just putting it out there.

 

 

Says focus would be on acquiring bats though, can't see that being us.

just read that -- would yall offer Ozuna and other players if it gives us Jeff..

 

hypothetically speaking.

 

 

I think our outfield is pretty untouchable right now. I can't see any realistic scenario where the Fish trade Ozuna right now.