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Why?

 

If you have a pitcher that can't go 3 times through a batting order then get another pitcher or just have him go 4 or 5 innings.  What difference does it make if Stanek pitches in the 1st or the 5th and beyond?

 

There's already too much specialization in baseball as it is.  Platoons, 7th inning guy, setup man, closer and LOOGY.  And don't get me started on this stupid shifts. 

 

We are taking away name recognition from the game.  Baseball, like any sport needs star power.  Relievers (with the exception of some closers)  and platoon players aren't usually superstars. Baseball is more than just about stats.

 

Yes, I'm old.  Get off my lawn.  I get it.  But pretty soon the game will be diminished with all of this specialization.  It just takes away from the game.  Baseball has been around longer than any other sport and has always been successful and enjoyable.  Why do we have to change it so drastically now after all of these years?

 

I know my opinion is in the minority on this site but that's just how I feel.  Part of loving baseball is the traditions and they are flying out the window now.  

 

 

If you have a pitcher that can't go 3 times through a batting order then get another pitcher or just have him go 4 or 5 innings.  What difference does it make if Stanek pitches in the 1st or the 5th and beyond?

 

There's already too much specialization in baseball as it is.  Platoons, 7th inning guy, setup man, closer and LOOGY.  And don't get me started on this stupid shifts. 

 

We are taking away name recognition from the game.  Baseball, like any sport needs star power.  Relievers (with the exception of some closers)  and platoon players aren't usually superstars. Baseball is more than just about stats.

 

Yes, I'm old.  Get off my lawn.  I get it.  But pretty soon the game will be diminished with all of this specialization.  It just takes away from the game.  Baseball has been around longer than any other sport and has always been successful and enjoyable.  Why do we have to change it so drastically now after all of these years?

 

I know my opinion is in the minority on this site but that's just how I feel.  Part of loving baseball is the traditions and they are flying out the window now.  

 

Your opinion is completely valid, however, and if the team has five solid to great starters, then there's zero need for an Opener. You're not wrong in your statements. The Opener is used for teams that don't have those solid to great starters and need to get creative. In the Rays case, it has thus far ended up leading to a lot of wins. In the A's case, it ended their playoff run immediately last year.

 

I like the idea of the Opener (in fact I once had a team in MLB the Show that had a pitching staff of 100% [decent to great] bullpen arms and that team was stupidly good even on a high difficulty level), but I get it's not for everyone. However, it allows pitchers to go max effort for a longer stint, where-as a starter looking to go eight innings will have to hold back on some pitches to conserve some strength, which doesn't work for everyone. Someone like Verlander has it down to a science, simply because even at 80% effort, all of his stuff is better than most other pitchers. Then he ramps it up when need-be.

 

Is what it is. ?

 

 

There have been multiple times where a reliever could easily be used and SHOULD have been used for two or three innings, and D-Mats used him for one. Or, hell, just one OUT a couple times. Zero bullpen management ability.

 

I agree with this.  His biggest weakness by far. 

 

 

Your opinion is completely valid, however, and if the team has five solid to great starters, then there's zero need for an Opener. You're not wrong in your statements. The Opener is used for teams that don't have those solid to great starters and need to get creative. In the Rays case, it has thus far ended up leading to a lot of wins. In the A's case, it ended their playoff run immediately last year.

 

I like the idea of the Opener (in fact I once had a team in MLB the Show that had a pitching staff of 100% [decent to great] bullpen arms and that team was stupidly good even on a high difficulty level), but I get it's not for everyone. However, it allows pitchers to go max effort for a longer stint, where-as a starter looking to go eight innings will have to hold back on some pitches to conserve some strength, which doesn't work for everyone. Someone like Verlander has it down to a science, simply because even at 80% effort, all of his stuff is better than most other pitchers. Then he ramps it up when need-be.

 

Is what it is. ?

 

I get it.  It makes sense for some teams.  However, all sports are copycat leagues and I fear this will become a trend where only the Verlander's of the league are the exception.  I just hope the fish don't try any shortcuts and fully develop all of the young talented arms we have in the system right now.  We shall see. 

 

 

I would prefer we do whatever is best in order to win more games. 

 

It’s very rare to develop 5 good starting pitchers.

 

 

"When something like this happens, you have to be positive and keep your head up. That’s the way I’m going to look at it," Rojas said. "I’m going to try to keep my teammates happy and keep everybody together while I’m trying to get back on the field. Hopefully, it’s sooner than later.”

 

It's the type of player you would like to have in your team, honestly I would be very surprised if we didn't retain him for the next season. 

 

 

"When something like this happens, you have to be positive and keep your head up. That’s the way I’m going to look at it," Rojas said. "I’m going to try to keep my teammates happy and keep everybody together while I’m trying to get back on the field. Hopefully, it’s sooner than later.”

 

It's the type of player you would like to have in your team, honestly I would be very surprised if we didn't retain him for the next season. 

 

Rojas is still in his arbitration years so he's still under club control for next season. Since he wasn't traded this year he most likely will be back in 2020. He still has a role here and at least is productive. 

 

 

SS Deven Marrero has been called up to replace Miguel Rojas (IL stint)

 

another almost sure out added to the ML roster.  We are regressing, although it means little other than the watch-ability of the team.

 

 

Went from looking forward to watching like 4 or 5 rotation starters to 2. Every night there was a guy I was really excited to watch perform and grow. Now, Hernandez and Noesi are lame duck fill in guys with no future, and Alcantara just blows. Need Lopez back so I can have 3 of 5 at least. Or another intriguing call-up. Dugger ain't it lmao.

 

 

Went from looking forward to watching like 4 or 5 rotation starters to 2. Every night there was a guy I was really excited to watch perform and grow. Now, Hernandez and Noesi are lame duck fill in guys with no future, and Alcantara just blows. Need Lopez back so I can have 3 of 5 at least. Or another intriguing call-up. Dugger ain't it lmao.

 

To be honest Dugger has the potential to be a decent pitcher he was just called up too early. It would have been like if they called up Gallen early last year while he was struggling to pitch at AAA.

 

 

"Lame duck fill in guy" only applies to Noesi. The others are just inexperienced young players looking to find their footing. 

 

Hernandez has no chance sticking as a starter imo. 

 

 

The fuck is wrong with Pablo like for real? Dude's given up like 15 runs in 4 innings pitched or some shit.

 

 

The fuck is wrong with Pablo like for real? Dude's given up like 15 runs in 4 innings pitched or some shit.

 

I doubt that there is a whole lot of strategy in terms of run prevention. They just want him to prove he is healthy on each pitch and can comfortably hit each spot. Caleb gave up a few runs in his rehab and it did not seem to affect him.

 

 

I doubt that there is a whole lot of strategy in terms of run prevention. They just want him to prove he is healthy on each pitch and can comfortably hit each spot. Caleb gave up a few runs in his rehab and it did not seem to affect him.

 

True, hope ur right. I did read something earlier about wanting to get Pablo to 100 pitches.

 

 

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