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I love lindstrom casue of his 100 mph fastball and i think that clouds my judgemnt of himm as a pitcher i know he doesnt have the greastes numbers. But i think he has tons of potential and could be a close like lidge if he could get his slider down or another pitch. IDK about pudge hes getting older but i mena if we clould get him for a decent price then sure. He will be 29 before spring training even starts next spring, his fastball is his only pitch and its flat as can be, the rest of his offerings are mediocre at best. I would say he has met potential. I wouldn't of given up Lindstrom for a rental of a catcher past his prime. Yes, I saw he's hitting .295. I don't want to lose a prospect that some of you have said is our future closer. If we trade him, we upgrade in one slot, degrade in another, lose a prospect, lose the "upgrade" after half a season. That's too much. If Farnsworth was on our team, sure I'd trade him. But not Lindstrom. Lindstrom hasnt been a prospect for quite some time, and IMO with his lack of even average secondary offerings added to a fastball that is flat he would be an awful closer long term IMO, because teams will figure him out quickly. Jimmy, why are you such a hater? You think Lindstrom has "lack of average secondary offerings?" You need your head examined! In the final months when he was throwing the slider and split-change over for strikes he was 5 for 5 in save opportunities. Balls might have been hit, but the job got done. Cut the dude some slack. How much movement do you expect the fastball to have when it travels at 100 mph (it doesn't have time to move). His two seam fastball is the one that needs movement. And about teams figuring him out, yeah every hitter in the league is trying to square up the fastball. Ask David Wright about his last at-bat when he got 3 straight sliders and then got a "straight fastball" to hit. Oh yeah that's right he popped out. He got an above average hitter out that means his stuff is above average-it's really quite simple. I hope you eat your negative words about this kid.

gardner did really good in 07 and if nelson & owens do a good job then we have plenty of backups incase lindstrom struggles We have mentioned Henry Owens in the bullpen for most of last year, the beginning of this year and now for next year. Owens has pitched at total of 23 innings in just under 2 years, with 19 hits, 10 BB and 16 strikes and has been on the disabled list for that entire time. I would think Owens has a heck of lot to prove to even be considered for the bull pen. Owens had rotator cuff surgery last August and has yet to re-appear. I suggest we leave him out any bullpen discussion until he proves he can even throw again. With his awkward arm slot he uses keeping healthy will be a real problem for him. You'd of thought Henry Owens had Tommy John surgery with all the time he has missed. I second the motion of keeping Owens out of bullpen discussions until I see him in spring training (not doing light tossing or light baseball activities), but actually really throwing the ball!

I would enjoy both Tucker and Lindstrom in the 8th and 9th innings. I agree with Dim0615. Lindstrom will close until he demands too much money or stinks it up which ever comes first. For now I hope to see everyone on the Marlins team succeed.

Lindstrom has developed the maturity to be the closer, I know we all would like to see him develop another pitch maybe a splitter but he can do the job right now He does have a splitter. He throws it, frequently, to left-handed hitters. Yeah he has the splitter and unfortunately if it gets hit hard he shy's away from it. I personally think it is his best pitch when he throws it down in the zone. Hitters have a tendency to swing over the top of it. Both Jose Reyes and Carlos Beltran last year struck out on the splitty. I hope he gains more confidence in it for next year!

Lindstrom will be Great Closer- SU Man in his career but i cant wait til we have the Tucker- Lindstrom Combo 2 Guys will Great FastBalls Sharp Sliders who Mow Batters Down I would definitely love to see that!!!!

that ligero dude is awesome When I go to the Marlins official website and read his posts he is brutal. I enjoyed what he had to say on the NY message board-he was taking names!

Olsen's record is deceiving because the Marlins hardly scored any runs whenever he would pitch. He had no run support in at least 10 of his starts where he pitched extremely well. IMO I wouldn't mind keeping him around because it seems to me that he is getting more mature and learning how to pitch.

The Mets are spoiling it all by themselves. Now the Mets are tied with the Brewers for the Wild card. They still have to play Chicago one more time and then the Marlins. I'll tell you what if they are going to go they are going to have to earn it. But you know as well as I do that they will choke once again and both New York teams will be watching October baseball at home!! That's a lot of money sitting on the couches (over 300 million dollars)!

Great research Lou if those are the players and that is the team we all should be very excited for next season! However, let's go marlins this season!

I believe as well. I will be rooting for them until the end. Anything is possible, let's do this ya'll!!!!!!!!

Cameron Maybin fell to earth and it was a hard fall. You've gotta be kidding me, man. Saying he fell to earth after 2 AB's is almost as ridiculous as calling him an MVP after 10 AB's. 2 AB's? Were you watching the same game as me? If I don't recall he had 5 AB's with 1 hit and 4 strike outs. Sure give him the MVP for his last 10 AB's excluding this game he was that good! Dude, it was one game. Come on. I apologize RAB I understand it was one game. He has done a super job as of late and I hope he continues to do a great job. I am rooting for him, he has been the spark lately. I look forward to watching him play for a long time.

Cameron Maybin fell to earth and it was a hard fall. You've gotta be kidding me, man. Saying he fell to earth after 2 AB's is almost as ridiculous as calling him an MVP after 10 AB's. 2 AB's? Were you watching the same game as me? If I don't recall he had 5 AB's with 1 hit and 4 strike outs. Sure give him the MVP for his last 10 AB's excluding this game he was that good!

You deserve to lose when you can't score a run with 2nd and 3rd with 0 outs. Yeah Cantu was safe on the replay, but out according to Bucknor he was out (terrible call, but still an out). Cameron Maybin fell to earth and it was a hard fall. McPhearson was trying to be the hero by swinging for the fences and looked foolish. Nevertheless, it was fun watching these guys battle and feel the intensity. Like everyone else said the winning streak starts tomorrow! Are you seriously gonna blame McPherson, a guy who hardly gets any playing time? He got a great pitch to hit and missed it. That's what happens when Fredi keeps trotting out Wes Helms and Luis Gonzalez and the others as pinch hitters but uses a guy like McPherson very sparingly. He's not going to have his timing down. And the one time you do bring him in the game, its versus the one closer in baseball to not blow a save. Yeah, that's really fair. Are you illiterate? Did you read anywhere in my post that I was blaming McPherson? "McPherson was trying to be the hero by swinging for the fences and looked foolish." The word blame is nowhere to be found. I don't care if Lidge is the best closer in baseball. I don't think the Marlins team did either. Oh, and by the way life aint fair either or else we would of got that call from the umpire to tie the game. Just so you know I am a McPhearson fan so relax.

Cameron Maybin fell to earth and it was a hard fall. You've gotta be kidding me, man. Saying he fell to earth after 2 AB's is almost as ridiculous as calling him an MVP after 10 AB's. he means that he finally relized that he wasn't in little league anymore, and that nobody can battin .800, he didn't mean he will become a horrible major leaguer now, he just said that he finally learned that u aren't always going to be the hero Thanks that is exactly what I meant. Relax Erik he's had more than 2 at bats if I don't recall he had 4 tonight and struck out 3 times. Not every post of your is gospel either. There are others that have opinions too bro!

You deserve to lose when you can't score a run with 2nd and 3rd with 0 outs. Yeah Cantu was safe on the replay, but out according to Bucknor he was out (terrible call, but still an out). Cameron Maybin fell to earth and it was a hard fall. McPhearson was trying to be the hero by swinging for the fences and looked foolish. Nevertheless, it was fun watching these guys battle and feel the intensity. Like everyone else said the winning streak starts tomorrow!

He should sit out. We certainly aren't stuggling with him in the line up or out on the field playing defense. Leave him put to get get healthy and let's continue winning ball games!

It would hurt but I am enjoying the moment that I am experiencing right now.

Hey the way they are playing right now looks as if they won't get beat again. I do know this; it will be fun to watch!

He struck Berkman out on a split-finger and set Pence up with two sliders only to blow him away with cheese. The last batter hit it on his hands and grounded out weakly. That's, basically, the only reason why I bumped it tonight. After Tejada hit that double...he made some nasty pitches. If he can get that slider over for a strike more often...and put lefties away with his splitter; lets just say that's what we should be looking for, in his progress. I agree. It was nice to see Gregg do well too. He has been treated very very poorly. I read your posts defending him which I thought was a class act. You earned a lot more respect from me because I agree with a lot of what you said. It's nice to see the team doing well and working on all cylinders.

I think it's too early to tell what the kid can do. Tonight he showed signs of being something great. I hope he continues to contribute and be the player everyone thinks he is. I certainly hope he does well!

The pitching, hitting, and defense was stellar tonight. If all three are working together this team is dangerous. This little winning streak shows the charater of this team. They are exciting to watch!

Tejada guessed right and hit the ball hard. To leave the runner on second, stranded tells me he's learning how to pitch. He struck Berkman out on a split-finger and set Pence up with two sliders only to blow him away with cheese. The last batter hit it on his hands and grounded out weakly. It's nice to see he is getting that off-spead over. I told you he would be dangerous if he gained confidence in off-spead stuff. The fans should be so excited right now to see their team (batteling s.p.) and playing so well!

Doesn't shock me at all, I've always known he was a total asshole. I just can't wait for him to get the f*** off my team. I don't get it when people make ignorant statements like this. 1. You don't KNOW the guy. 2. Gregg didn't even offend anyone on the team. He actually ended up complimenting Lindstrom, in the end. I agree with you Erik. I'm sure none of this was being said when he saved them from the horrendous closer performances last year (Benitez and Julio). I'm going out on a limb when I say this but I highly doubt Gregg was trying to suck in his 3rd arbitration year, let alone suck period. Also, Lindstrom commented on Gregg a few months ago and how he gave him some good advice when pitching. The little things go unnoticed and when you screw up big time your thrown to the dogs. I've seen sh*t lists before, but Gregg's supersceeds all of them.

Gregg mentioned the "trade value" because he basically is threatening the marlins to put him back in as closer, he is sayin put me in or u will get nothing for me in return, personally at this point he is just one of those players u release and have no regrets about it. He is a "me" kind of player, and that is the worst thing to have on ur team. Even though he sees Lindstrom is doing a good job, he thinks of himself instead of the team because he just cares about the money. I see him signing for minimum money next season wit another team just because teams may see him as a bad seed in the clubhouse, a guy that if he doesn't get his way, he will start saying bad sh*t about ur team. I say good riddance, please leave, i will personally pack ur bags, and it has nothing to do wit ur play, even though i do hate how sh*tty of a closer u are, i just feel that since u want to cause turmoil in the clubhouse, we might as well let that turmoil go to another team SOON This was well said.

Well, it's kind of understandable. He's just trying to get his. Is he being a dick about it? Most likely. But since he now knows for sure that his Marlin days are done, he's just trying to do the best for himself. Can't blame him for trying to do his best and get his, however, you can't blame the Marlins either for scratching him from the closer role after he has been terribly inconsistent this last month. Perhaps Gregg was pitching for selfish reasons, trying to make as much money as possible (once again I can't blame him)? The Marlins on the other hand are trying to do what's best for the players and their psyche. Fighting hard all game only to have someone blow it at the end is tough on a team mentally. Right now they are on a roll because the starting pitching is doing well, the position players are hitting and playing pretty solid defense, and the relievers are saving the games. Rab I can see both sides and it seems like Gregg can too.