December 17, 200421 yr I know Bud Selig has done alot to make baseball better this days... But to make it awesome he needs to step in and tell the Yankees and Red Sox to relax on them do everything... And puting a salary cap no higher then $150million.
December 17, 200421 yr actually, this doesn't add anything to the Yankees payroll, because Johnson and Vazquez are making the same amount of money (10.5) in 2005. 636844[/snapback] Its ridiculous in terms of players... I am calling all Yankees fans out to give me one good reason this isn't getting ridiculous... 636835[/snapback] i dont see whats so ridiculous 636845[/snapback] The non-parity in this sport. 636851[/snapback] there's more parity in baseball than there is in the NBA. Stop complaiming, don't blame the teams that spend, don't blame the league for not stopping the teams from spending, blame the teams that don't spend.
December 17, 200421 yr This is just going to fuel contraction. With contraction it should lower player salaries.
December 17, 200421 yr actually, this doesn't add anything to the Yankees payroll, because Johnson and Vazquez are making the same amount of money (10.5) in 2005. 636844[/snapback] Its ridiculous in terms of players... I am calling all Yankees fans out to give me one good reason this isn't getting ridiculous... 636835[/snapback] i dont see whats so ridiculous 636845[/snapback] The non-parity in this sport. 636851[/snapback] there's more parity in baseball than there is in the NBA. Stop complaiming, don't blame the teams that spend, don't blame the league for not stopping the teams from spending, blame the teams that don't spend. 636868[/snapback] Yeah thats because in the NBA you only need one star to take you places, see Lebron James last year, the MLB you actually need a team. The Yankees just have completely blown away any and all parity with their HOF team in Johnson, Sheffield, ARod, maybe Jeter, maybe maybe Bernie Williams, Mariano Rivera, need I go on?
December 17, 200421 yr actually, this doesn't add anything to the Yankees payroll, because Johnson and Vazquez are making the same amount of money (10.5) in 2005. 636844[/snapback] Its ridiculous in terms of players... I am calling all Yankees fans out to give me one good reason this isn't getting ridiculous... 636835[/snapback] i dont see whats so ridiculous 636845[/snapback] The non-parity in this sport. 636851[/snapback] there's more parity in baseball than there is in the NBA. Stop complaiming, don't blame the teams that spend, don't blame the league for not stopping the teams from spending, blame the teams that don't spend. 636868[/snapback] Yeah thats because in the NBA you only need one star to take you places, see Lebron James last year, the MLB you actually need a team. The Yankees just have completely blown away any and all parity with their HOF team in Johnson, Sheffield, ARod, maybe Jeter, maybe maybe Bernie Williams, Mariano Rivera, need I go on? 636881[/snapback] that's why you don't need a salary cap in baseball. No matter how much money you throw down, everyone still has a chance
December 17, 200421 yr actually, this doesn't add anything to the Yankees payroll, because Johnson and Vazquez are making the same amount of money (10.5) in 2005. 636844[/snapback] Its ridiculous in terms of players... I am calling all Yankees fans out to give me one good reason this isn't getting ridiculous... 636835[/snapback] i dont see whats so ridiculous 636845[/snapback] The non-parity in this sport. 636851[/snapback] there's more parity in baseball than there is in the NBA. Stop complaiming, don't blame the teams that spend, don't blame the league for not stopping the teams from spending, blame the teams that don't spend. 636868[/snapback] Yeah thats because in the NBA you only need one star to take you places, see Lebron James last year, the MLB you actually need a team. The Yankees just have completely blown away any and all parity with their HOF team in Johnson, Sheffield, ARod, maybe Jeter, maybe maybe Bernie Williams, Mariano Rivera, need I go on? 636881[/snapback] that's why you don't need a salary cap in baseball. No matter how much money you throw down, everyone still has a chance 636905[/snapback] You always have a chance. But if you spend less money you dont have the same chance of winning than those of higher salaries. Let see.. top 3 payrolls made the playoffs. NY,BOS,ANA Top 6 all had winning records. 6 out of top 10 teams made the playoffs. 10 out of the top 12 had winning records. So money=better team
December 17, 200421 yr Hold the freakin phone.. This thing isnt official.. A reporter from Arizona was just on ESPNews and the reporter says that RJ is re-thinking about staying in Arizona with all the signings they have made in Glaus, Clayton, Ortiz and so on. It's not official right now but he says IF this deal goes through it may be another week.....December 31st is what the reporter is saying. The reporter also said St. Louis and Anaheim could be making last minute efforts to get Randy and Randy hasnt accepted this deal. The source of this rumor is New York Newsday but it is NOT a done deal. Stay Tuned...........
December 17, 200421 yr I am calling all Yankees fans out to give me one good reason this isn't getting ridiculous... 636835[/snapback] Says the kid who roots for the Red Sox. :plain
December 17, 200421 yr http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/base...port/index.html sports illustrated reported it too. Would the yankees still sign Beltran. If they are going to have a hgh payroll, they might as well have an obscene one so it will be funnier when they get beat
December 17, 200421 yr http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/base...port/index.html sports illustrated reported it too. Would the yankees still sign Beltran. If they are going to have a hgh payroll, they might as well have an obscene one so it will be funnier when they get beat 636929[/snapback] Exactly my thought. The heart break will be worse :thumbup Let them spend all they want (im not going to complain because i root for the sox). As long as they spend and get nothing in the end, i'm happy.
December 17, 200421 yr f*** I wanted Navarro to be a Marlin. Zona did good holding out and DePodesta deals Penny - guess he didn't really think that great of him after all.
December 17, 200421 yr I am calling all Yankees fans out to give me one good reason this isn't getting ridiculous... 636835[/snapback] Says the kid who roots for the Red Sox. :plain 636925[/snapback] :lol
December 17, 200421 yr All this stuff about the Red Sox and Yankees make me sick.. Those 2 teams can actually spend money whereas they can have anyone or everyone they want.. Baseball is getting pathetic! 636864[/snapback] Except for the fact that a brokeazz cheap team like the Marlins beat the hell out of the Giants, Cubs and Yankees a year ago who all had payrolls that seaso big enough to pay for our stadium. :thumbup
December 17, 200421 yr those freakin yankees...just give them the trophy 636988[/snapback] They did it again! PAPER CHAMPS!!!!!!!!!!! OMGBBQ Paper Rings for everyone! I am going to draw Mickey Mouse on mine :plain
December 17, 200421 yr Not so fast.... ESPN's Jayson Stark believes the three-team Randy Johnson may not get done because it was contingent on the Dodgers being able to re-sign Adrian Beltre. If he's right, then the breaking news was old news, because the deal would have had to have been agreed to prior to today. For the Dodgers, this deal only makes sense as an extreme effort to free up money, which would then have to be used on a star. Carlos Beltran would be a viable alternative to Beltre, but it's unclear whether the Dodgers have had any talks with Scott Boras about him
December 17, 200421 yr Johnson and Vazquez are making the same amount of money 636844[/snapback] That's just wrong. Vasquez should be making 1/3 of what the Unit makes, if that.
December 17, 200421 yr ESPN.com news services Randy Johnson wants out of Arizona and wants in with the Yankees. The five-time Cy Young Award winner would have to waive his no-trade clause, but he'd apparently do that in a heartbeat. A proposed three-team mega-trade that reportedly was on the road to getting done Thursday night hit the skids. A baseball source told ESPN that several obstacles stand in the way of a trade involving the Yankees, Diamondbacks and Dodgers, and that the deal rapidly exceeding the complexity of last year's failed Alex Rodriguez-to-Boston trade might never happen at all. Earlier reports indicated that the teams were closing in on a trade that would send Johnson to the Yankees, Javier Vazquez and prospects Eric Duncan and Dioner Navarro to Los Angeles, and Shawn Green and pitchers Brad Penny and Yhency Brazoban to Arizona. The trade was proposed before Adrian Beltre agreed to a $64 million, five-year deal with the Mariners on Thursday. By failing to re-sign Beltre, the Dodgers may rethink their role in the trade, ESPN.com's Jayson Stark reported. Other issues that threatened to derail the trade include the waiving of Green's no-trade clause. A source close to Green told ESPN.com that the Dodgers outfielder is happy living in Southern California, where he grew up, and has expressed no desire to leave Los Angeles. How much money the Diamondbacks would receive from the Yankees is also a point of contention. Sources told Stark that moving Duncan and Navarro would preclude the Yankees from sending money to Arizona. Another obstacle that reportedly would derail the trade is Vazquez's salary; he is due $34.5 million over the next three seasons and Los Angeles apparently wants help from the Yankees footing the bill. There was no confirmation from any of the teams that a deal has been proposed. Johnson's agent, Barry Meister, declined comment when reached by ESPN.com. "We're still in conversations with a lot of different clubs about a lot of different possibilities," Dodgers general manager Paul DePodesta said earlier Thursday. "We have talked about some three-way deals and some four-way deals. "I don't know if it's going to happen or not," he said. Both Johnson and Green have no-trade clauses. The Big Unit has desired a trade to the Yankees for months. Green's former agent is Jeff Moorad, who is the Diamondbacks' incoming CEO, so it's expected that Green, who is due $16 million in 2005, would approve the trade. The Yankees also would be expected to sign Johnson to a contract extension if they acquire him. Johnson will make $16 million next season, the final year of his contract. Johnson was a Montreal Expos second-round draft pick in 1985. He signed with Arizona on Dec. 10, 1998, and won the Cy Young Award in each of his first four seasons in the desert. He finished second to Houston's Roger Clemens in this year's voting. Johnson also won a Cy Young Award in Seattle, where he played from 1989-98. Johnson finished with a 16-14 record in 2004, but he led the majors in strikeouts with 290 and was second in the majors with a 2.60 ERA despite coming off knee surgery. In a season in which Arizona lost a franchise-worst 111 games, Johnson pitched a perfect game, passed 4,000 career strikeouts and passed Steve Carlton to become the most prolific left-handed strikeout pitcher in history. He ranks No. 3 on the strikeout list behind Nolan Ryan and Clemens. Green, 31, has a .282 career average but dipped to .266 last season with 28 home runs and 86 RBI. Penny, 26, was traded from Florida to the Dodgers on July 30 but saw limited action for Los Angeles because of a problem in his right arm. He was 9-10 with a 3.15 ERA for both clubs. Penny was selected in the fifth round of Arizona's initial free-agent draft in 1996 but never pitched for the Diamondbacks in the majors. He, right-hander Vladimir Nunez and outfielder Abraham Nunez (as a player to be named) were traded to Florida for closer Matt Mantei in July 1999. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
December 17, 200421 yr actually, this doesn't add anything to the Yankees payroll, because Johnson and Vazquez are making the same amount of money (10.5) in 2005. 636844[/snapback] Its ridiculous in terms of players... I am calling all Yankees fans out to give me one good reason this isn't getting ridiculous... 636835[/snapback] i dont see whats so ridiculous 636845[/snapback] The non-parity in this sport. 636851[/snapback] there's more parity in baseball than there is in the NBA. Stop complaiming, don't blame the teams that spend, don't blame the league for not stopping the teams from spending, blame the teams that don't spend. 636868[/snapback] Yeah thats because in the NBA you only need one star to take you places, see Lebron James last year, the MLB you actually need a team. The Yankees just have completely blown away any and all parity with their HOF team in Johnson, Sheffield, ARod, maybe Jeter, maybe maybe Bernie Williams, Mariano Rivera, need I go on? 636881[/snapback] that's why you don't need a salary cap in baseball. No matter how much money you throw down, everyone still has a chance 636905[/snapback] You always have a chance. But if you spend less money you dont have the same chance of winning than those of higher salaries. Let see.. top 3 payrolls made the playoffs. NY,BOS,ANA Top 6 all had winning records. 6 out of top 10 teams made the playoffs. 10 out of the top 12 had winning records. So money=better team 636918[/snapback] well whose fault is it? Teams that are willing to spend money, or teams that are too cheap to spend money?
December 17, 200421 yr I am calling all Yankees fans out to give me one good reason this isn't getting ridiculous... 636835[/snapback] Jeez, do you read what you write? The Red Sox are the same way.
December 17, 200421 yr Ummm we have another twist to this story.. 'Big' blockbuster has big obstacles In another twist, The New York Daily News reported the possibility of a fourth team in the deal -- suggesting the St. Louis Cardinals could perhaps be that team -- and said "there appears to be a feeling of urgency from all the clubs to get it completed within the next day or so." [More in URL] Hmm.. Hmm.. Hmm... Now who the heck would we get? Vazquez?
December 17, 200421 yr The yankee bashing is really getting old. Quit complaining about because you know that if the Marlins (or whatever your favorite team may be) would open up their check book like the Yanks, you'd be all over the deal and cheering it on. Anyway, this is a trade, not a signing. No one forced Arizona to trade RJ to NY.
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