most of you probably dont remember Kasper when he first got here(still in diapers and such)

 

but he flat out sucked too... give him a few months

 

jeez you guys jump off anf on bandwagons like no other

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Yea, but this guy was supposed to be great.

 

Wasn't he on ESPN at some point?

 

He f***ing blows.

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i dont think he was touted as the next big thing

most of you probably dont remember Kasper when he first got here(still in diapers and such)

 

but he flat out sucked too... give him a few months

 

jeez you guys jump off anf on bandwagons like no other

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Yea, but this guy was supposed to be great.

 

Wasn't he on ESPN at some point?

 

He f***ing blows.

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Imagine Craig Minervini going to Seattle and becoming the new television voice of the Mariners.

 

This is no different.

most of you probably dont remember Kasper when he first got here(still in diapers and such)

 

but he flat out sucked too... give him a few months

 

jeez you guys jump off anf on bandwagons like no other

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Yea, but this guy was supposed to be great.

 

Wasn't he on ESPN at some point?

 

He f***ing blows.

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i dont think he was touted as the next big thing

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Well, if you were once with ESPN you've gotta be pretty good, right?

 

Wrong, apparently.

most of you probably dont remember Kasper when he first got here(still in diapers and such)

 

but he flat out sucked too... give him a few months

 

jeez you guys jump off anf on bandwagons like no other

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Yea, but this guy was supposed to be great.

 

Wasn't he on ESPN at some point?

 

He f***ing blows.

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i dont think he was touted as the next big thing

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Well, if you were once with ESPN you've gotta be pretty good, right?

 

Wrong, apparently.

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he was on espn?

Waltz has definitely improved from the first ST game. He was doing alright.

 

Of course it's tough to replace Len. Give him more time.

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He has definitely improved, and his home run call for ENC's grand slam was awesome... but he was equally enthusiastic for Admin's home run tonight.

well guess what, bitching about a damn broadcaster is pathetic. get over it.

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This is baseball and the voice of a team is a very important thing. If you can't realize that, it's not my problem.

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explain to me how it is important?

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It makes the viewing experience that much better. Listen to a playoff game called by Brennaman(sp?) and one done by Buck, huge difference. It's bad enough the opposing team is beating you but you don't need a PBP guy rubbing it in your face as well.

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If the announcer is a significant factor in how much you enjoy the game then there is something wrong. Watch the game too watch the game, not too be worried about what the announcer does and doesn't say.

 

I'm not sure about the point your trying to make with the rubbing it in your face thing, I don't think Waltz was rubbing it in the faces of marlins fans when we were losing.

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When I guy hits a HR on the opposing team the last thing you want is to hear a guy that is basically cheering for the other team with his overly excited call, especially when he's more excited when the opposing team does something.

 

Guys like Buck and Miller get excited but they never in their excitement seem to lean to one team, they might just highlight a play.

That's news to me. :blink:

Well, I'll tell you one thing, Waltz was not more excited for the Braves when they went on top, so I'm not sure where you are going with that. As far as Waltz not being excited, I don't need somebody to be excited when the team does well. I need him to call the game. Last time I checked he was the Play by Play guy. In my opinion the play by play guy should not go out of his way to be noticed, he should just provide the information to the fan about what's going on in the game. The color commentator is the guy whose supposed to be entertaining and bring the information.

Well, I'll tell you one thing, Waltz was not more excited for the Braves when they went on top, so I'm not sure where you are going with that. As far as Waltz not being excited, I don't need somebody to be excited when the team does well. I need him to call the game. Last time I checked he was the Play by Play guy. In my opinion the play by play guy should not go out of his way to be noticed, he should just provide the information to the fan about what's going on in the game. The color commentator is the guy whose supposed to be entertaining and bring the information.

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The best in the business get your attention with their excitement of calls.

 

The worst and boring ones tend to show no excitement.

 

If you don't believe me listen to a game called by Jon Miller, then listen to a game called by the TBS PBP guy. Huge difference.

lol, if you care so much about a guy who is in his 2nd game as the announcer, you have some problems.

 

But that's what I've come to expect out of you accord.

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Get over yourself.

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IowaMarlin and Maverick are really pissed tonight and they are taking it out on Marlin fans. Look, everyone will react differently after losses. Just let people do what they want. They is no need to respond by calling people names.

Im not pissed at all actually

 

Im over this loss already.. I was over it 3 minutes later

 

games like this happen, its called baseball

Im not pissed at all actually

 

Im over this loss already.. I was over it 3 minutes later

 

games like this happen, its called baseball

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Its called showing EMOTION. When you win like yesterday or win the World Series as a fan you are happy. When you get beat 9-0 you just say oh well- it happens. When you lose 2-1 in 13 innings- you get mad. Its called being a fan.

Im not pissed at all actually

 

Im over this loss already.. I was over it 3 minutes later

 

games like this happen, its called baseball

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Its called showing EMOTION. When you win like yesterday or win the World Series as a fan you are happy. When you get beat 9-0 you just say oh well- it happens. When you lose 2-1 in 13 innings- you get mad. Its called being a fan.

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So what? You want him to be bitter til' tomorrow or something? I was pissed at first, but you get over it when you realize there are 160 games left. They lost- you can't control it.

So let me get this straight -- you guys bash announcers for being "homers" consistently -- then when a guy shows emotion for the opposition you rip him? What kind of hypocrisy is that?

 

I didn't hear him today because I was at the game -- but I thought he did a great job opening night. No emotion for the Marlins? give me a f*cking break -- his voice was almost squeaking on Enc's grand slam and Delgado's 2RBI double.

 

Anyone making a judgment on the guy after two games is a fool. If he makes a couple of nice calls on a walk-off homer or a clutch save -- you guys will jump to the other side of the wagon. Be objective and give the guy a chance -- you'll save yourself a ton of integrity in the process.

lol, if you care so much about a guy who is in his 2nd game as the announcer, you have some problems.

 

But that's what I've come to expect out of you accord.

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Get over yourself.

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IowaMarlin and Maverick are really pissed tonight and they are taking it out on Marlin fans. Look, everyone will react differently after losses. Just let people do what they want. They is no need to respond by calling people names.

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I talked to IowaMarlin via PM's and him and I are cool now.

So let me get this straight -- you guys bash announcers for being "homers" consistently -- then when a guy shows emotion for the opposition you rip him? What kind of hypocrisy is that?

 

I didn't hear him today because I was at the game -- but I thought he did a great job opening night. No emotion for the Marlins? give me a f*cking break -- his voice was almost squeaking on Enc's grand slam and Delgado's 2RBI double.

 

Anyone making a judgment on the guy after two games is a fool. If he makes a couple of nice calls on a walk-off homer or a clutch save -- you guys will jump to the other side of the wagon. Be objective and give the guy a chance -- you'll save yourself a ton of integrity in the process.

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Nobody ever criticized Len for being a homer, last year at times when our offense was horrible Len was very critical of our team as well as many bad managerial decisions by Jack. Tommy is a hundred times the homer that Len ever was, although I think that has more to do with the fact that Tommy experienced first hand the whole Joe Angel debacle.

 

And plus, it's better to be a homer than a traitor.

 

You thought Rich Waltz' call of ENC's grand slam was loud and enthusiastic? His call of Chipper's home run was just as enthusiastic, it was as if he was happy and excited that Chipper hit it.

 

Yes, making a concrete judgement on a broadcaster after just 2 regular season games is ridiculous however you need to follow your own logic. Criticizing and passing judgement on someone when you never even heard a single word out of Rich Waltz' mouth in tonight's game is equally as absurd. How can you comment on Rich Waltz' performance tonight when you never heard it?

 

On another note, Rich Waltz is a lot better now than he was during ST, he has definitely improved. As long as Rich Waltz stops rooting for the opposition, I and i'm sure many others won't have a problem with him calling Marlins games.

So let me get this straight -- you guys bash announcers for being "homers" consistently -- then when a guy shows emotion for the opposition you rip him? What kind of hypocrisy is that?

 

I didn't hear him today because I was at the game -- but I thought he did a great job opening night. No emotion for the Marlins? give me a f*cking break -- his voice was almost squeaking on Enc's grand slam and Delgado's 2RBI double.

 

Anyone making a judgment on the guy after two games is a fool. If he makes a couple of nice calls on a walk-off homer or a clutch save -- you guys will jump to the other side of the wagon. Be objective and give the guy a chance -- you'll save yourself a ton of integrity in the process.

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Nobody ever criticized Len for being a homer, last year at times when our offense was horrible Len was very critical of our team as well as many bad managerial decisions by Jack. Tommy is a hundred times the homer that Len ever was, although I think that has more to do with the fact that Tommy experienced first hand the whole Joe Angel debacle.

 

And plus, it's better to be a homer than a traitor.

 

You thought Rich Waltz' call of ENC's grand slam was loud and enthusiastic? His call of Chipper's home run was just as enthusiastic, it was as if he was happy and excited that Chipper hit it.

 

Yes, making a concrete judgement on a broadcaster after just 2 regular season games is ridiculous however you need to follow your own logic. Criticizing and passing judgement on someone when you never even heard a single word out of Rich Waltz' mouth in tonight's game is equally as absurd. How can you comment on Rich Waltz' performance tonight when you never heard it?

 

On another note, Rich Waltz is a lot better now than he was during ST, he has definitely improved. As long as Rich Waltz stops rooting for the opposition, I and i'm sure many others won't have a problem with him calling Marlins games.

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What exactly in my post gave you the slightest impression that I was commenting on Rich Waltz' performance on tonights game? Try reading my posts thoroughly before you try your next rebuttle.

 

I have no idea what he sounded like on Chippers homer -- so I'm not even going to comment on it -- but the "traitor" accusation is just flat out laughable. I find it hard to believe Waltz is rooting against the Marlins when his JOB is to entertain the Marlins' fans.

 

How about you and anyone else out there take your Len Kasper glasses off and try and form an objective opinion on Waltz? I was as big a Len Kasper fan as anyone, but he's gone and its time to move on. Stop comparing Waltz to Kasper because all your doing is setting yourself up for is a biased opinion.

 

Are you going to compare every kid that comes up in our organization from now on to Miguel Cabrera? If Jeremy Hermida comes up, becomes a .285-25-90 hitter -- is he a huge dissapointment too because he didnt reach Cabrera's standards? your logic is silly. I don't know how good of announcer Waltz is yet -- maybe he eventually will get on my nerves -- or maybe he will develop into a better announcer than Len Kasper -- I have no idea. The only thing I've seen from him thus far is he has a unique voice(something we also said about Len when he first came up....) Other than that -- I haven't listened to him enough to comment -- and niether have you.

So let me get this straight -- you guys bash announcers for being "homers" consistently -- then when a guy shows emotion for the opposition you rip him? What kind of hypocrisy is that?

 

I didn't hear him today because I was at the game -- but I thought he did a great job opening night. No emotion for the Marlins? give me a f*cking break -- his voice was almost squeaking on Enc's grand slam and Delgado's 2RBI double.

 

Anyone making a judgment on the guy after two games is a fool. If he makes a couple of nice calls on a walk-off homer or a clutch save -- you guys will jump to the other side of the wagon. Be objective and give the guy a chance -- you'll save yourself a ton of integrity in the process.

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Nobody ever criticized Len for being a homer, last year at times when our offense was horrible Len was very critical of our team as well as many bad managerial decisions by Jack. Tommy is a hundred times the homer that Len ever was, although I think that has more to do with the fact that Tommy experienced first hand the whole Joe Angel debacle.

 

And plus, it's better to be a homer than a traitor.

 

You thought Rich Waltz' call of ENC's grand slam was loud and enthusiastic? His call of Chipper's home run was just as enthusiastic, it was as if he was happy and excited that Chipper hit it.

 

Yes, making a concrete judgement on a broadcaster after just 2 regular season games is ridiculous however you need to follow your own logic. Criticizing and passing judgement on someone when you never even heard a single word out of Rich Waltz' mouth in tonight's game is equally as absurd. How can you comment on Rich Waltz' performance tonight when you never heard it?

 

On another note, Rich Waltz is a lot better now than he was during ST, he has definitely improved. As long as Rich Waltz stops rooting for the opposition, I and i'm sure many others won't have a problem with him calling Marlins games.

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What exactly in my post gave you the slightest impression that I was commenting on Rich Waltz' performance on tonights game? Try reading my posts thoroughly before you try your next rebuttle.

 

I have no idea what he sounded like on Chippers homer -- so I'm not even going to comment on it -- but the "traitor" accusation is just flat out laughable. I find it hard to believe Waltz is rooting against the Marlins when his JOB is to entertain the Marlins' fans.

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People said he showed no emotion tonight, you replied with a general "give me a f*cking break" with a reference to Enc's grand slam from yesterday. Well we are talking about his performance tonight, not opening day.

 

The traitor statement was just an exaggeration, but a fitting one at that.

i'm pretty sure you guys didn't perfect your job the second day you got it. Unless you are flipping burgers at McDonalds.

So let me get this straight -- you guys bash announcers for being "homers" consistently -- then when a guy shows emotion for the opposition you rip him? What kind of hypocrisy is that?

 

I didn't hear him today because I was at the game -- but I thought he did a great job opening night. No emotion for the Marlins? give me a f*cking break -- his voice was almost squeaking on Enc's grand slam and Delgado's 2RBI double.

 

Anyone making a judgment on the guy after two games is a fool. If he makes a couple of nice calls on a walk-off homer or a clutch save -- you guys will jump to the other side of the wagon. Be objective and give the guy a chance -- you'll save yourself a ton of integrity in the process.

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Nobody ever criticized Len for being a homer, last year at times when our offense was horrible Len was very critical of our team as well as many bad managerial decisions by Jack. Tommy is a hundred times the homer that Len ever was, although I think that has more to do with the fact that Tommy experienced first hand the whole Joe Angel debacle.

 

And plus, it's better to be a homer than a traitor.

 

You thought Rich Waltz' call of ENC's grand slam was loud and enthusiastic? His call of Chipper's home run was just as enthusiastic, it was as if he was happy and excited that Chipper hit it.

 

Yes, making a concrete judgement on a broadcaster after just 2 regular season games is ridiculous however you need to follow your own logic. Criticizing and passing judgement on someone when you never even heard a single word out of Rich Waltz' mouth in tonight's game is equally as absurd. How can you comment on Rich Waltz' performance tonight when you never heard it?

 

On another note, Rich Waltz is a lot better now than he was during ST, he has definitely improved. As long as Rich Waltz stops rooting for the opposition, I and i'm sure many others won't have a problem with him calling Marlins games.

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What exactly in my post gave you the slightest impression that I was commenting on Rich Waltz' performance on tonights game? Try reading my posts thoroughly before you try your next rebuttle.

 

I have no idea what he sounded like on Chippers homer -- so I'm not even going to comment on it -- but the "traitor" accusation is just flat out laughable. I find it hard to believe Waltz is rooting against the Marlins when his JOB is to entertain the Marlins' fans.

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People said he showed no emotion tonight, you replied with a general "give me a f*cking break" with a reference to Enc's grand slam from yesterday. Well we are talking about his performance tonight, not opening day.

 

The traitor statement was just an exaggeration, but a fitting one at that.

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What exactly did you want him to show emotion for? did you want him to dance naked after every double play the Marlins' hit into? Did you want him to scream enthusiastically after every AGon strikeout?

 

 

Give me a break -- being anti-Waltz after two games is just idiotic. If the Marlins hit a walk-off homer and he sounded like Ozzy Osbourne then maybe you'd make some sense -- but needless to say that isn't the case.

I admit, it's not the same without len kasper, but maybe he'll get better, give it time.

I think that it takes time to adjust to the new PBP men. If you go to the Chicago Cubs board and do a search for "Kasper" you will see that the Cubs fans absolutely hate him, In fact they are pretty much saying the same things that we are... e.g. "I am putting my TV on mute", "Bring back Chip" etc. I do agree that our new PBP guy is a bit blan, but I will give him some time

People are right that there is something wrong with our announcing team. But the problem is with Tommy Hutton. The guy is idiot. If you have any baseball knowledge, he has nothing of worth to add. He is not funny or charming, and has the intellect of a retarded child. For the most part, play-by-play guys are a dime a dozen; it is somewhat difficult to find a color man. And in my mind, T Hutt just doesn't cut it. If the color man is an ex-ballplayer, I want to hear about things that go on during the game with players and strategy that a fan doesn't know about. A couple examples of people who do this are Joe Morgan and Al Leiter (from the 2003 NLCS). What Al says as he breaks down an at-bat, you wouldn't know unless you played the game. But Hutton, his analysis is worthless drivel. Well... at least Jeff Brantley doesn't announce our games. I lose all faith in the game...well humanity... when I listen to that guy.

People are right that there is something wrong with our announcing team. But the problem is with Tommy Hutton. The guy is idiot. If you have any baseball knowledge, he has nothing of worth to add. He is not funny or charming, and has the intellect of a retarded child. For the most part, play-by-play guys are a dime a dozen; it is somewhat difficult to find a color man. And in my mind, T Hutt just doesn't cut it. If the color man is an ex-ballplayer, I want to hear about things that go on during the game with players and strategy that a fan doesn't know about. A couple examples of people who do this are Joe Morgan and Al Leiter (from the 2003 NLCS). What Al says as he breaks down an at-bat, you wouldn't know unless you played the game. But Hutton, his analysis is worthless drivel. Well... at least Jeff Brantley doesn't announce our games. I lose all faith in the game...well humanity... when I listen to that guy.

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If you think T-Hut has the intellect of a retarded child, I can't imagine what you think of Tim McCarver.

 

Either way, saying Tommy is an idiot and adds nothing to the broadcast is just totally absurd and I can guarantee you that virtually all Marlins fans will disagree with you.

I think he's okay. Youre just so used to Lenny, nobody can take his place. But he didnt "suck". I dont favor him over Lenny, but that part of Marlins baseball is over.