July 23, 200521 yr Panic time? If you include the All-Star game, that's 4 straight starts now where he's gotten SHELLED. Not just had a mediocre game, but shelled. Given the team no chance at all to win, even with the hot bats they've had the 2nd half. I can't begin to try & explain what's going on with him, but I sure hope it's just a small bump in the road.... Jack mentioned before the game that he & Wiley notice that when he throws 1st pitch strikes over 50 or 60% of the time he wins. Seemed like it didn't matter what he threw tonight, the Giants hit him all over the place.
July 23, 200521 yr im not worried or surprise, he hasent ever had a good or decent second half, he is just tired already thanks to jack.
July 23, 200521 yr Seemed like the Giants REALLY jumped at alot of his pitches tonight. Alot of the hits he alowed were pulled and hit hard. I am worried, this seems to be a normal occasion now with the D-train falling off the tracks at the second half...
July 23, 200521 yr I am extremely worried. A pitcher just doesn't lose it all of a sudden. 871359[/snapback] lol see 2003, 2004
July 23, 200521 yr im not worried or surprise, he hasent ever had a good or decent second half, he is just tired already thanks to jack. 871358[/snapback] Eh, I don't really know how much Jack has to do with it. But yes, this is definitely alarming.
July 23, 200521 yr Well if he lost it then he better find it real quick, because he's going to be the #2 guy on this pitching staff if and when A.J. get traded and there is no way that a team can go on any kind of run if its #2 pitcher is struggling the way Dontrelle has been.
July 23, 200521 yr have him skip a start, give him an obscene amount of rest and see if he composes himself next start
July 23, 200521 yr have him skip a start, give him an obscene amount of rest and see if he composes himself next start 871368[/snapback] no not a whole ten days of rest, more like have him rest an extra day, please we cant afford to have him gone for ten games.
July 23, 200521 yr the way hes pitching now we can definitely afford to give him ten days rest...maybe 20...maybe 37...
July 23, 200521 yr Perhaps all those complete games he pitched early in the season are finally catching up to him.
July 23, 200521 yr When a guy goes from being unhittable to abysmal, that's a red flag that he's hiding an injury. He's getting hit and hit hard.
July 23, 200521 yr Author have him skip a start, give him an obscene amount of rest and see if he composes himself next start 871368[/snapback] I was thinking the same thing. Give Vargas a start maybe, let Willis get a nice long rest. He had to throw some at the All-Star break too so really didn't get the extended rest that everyone else got. Hey, couldn't hurt...
July 23, 200521 yr Didn't Peter Gammons say last year that D-Trains delivery is a *you-know-what* surgery waiting to happen? Don't want to say it exactly in order to prevent the jinx :thumbup . At least D-Train is getting it done at the plate :plain.
July 23, 200521 yr I am extremely worried. A pitcher just doesn't lose it all of a sudden. 871359[/snapback] They figured him out. Willis is not a power pitcher once he gets messed up he just falls apart.
July 23, 200521 yr have him skip a start, give him an obscene amount of rest and see if he composes himself next start 871368[/snapback] no not a whole ten days of rest, more like have him rest an extra day, please we cant afford to have him gone for ten games. 871369[/snapback] :mischief2 He's given up at least 7 runs in each of his last 3 starts, of course we can afford to have him gone for ten games. I say we skip his next start. We have Beckett and Valdez back and we could always start Vargas or even bring up Olsen and give him a start.
July 23, 200521 yr I want everyone to know that even though valdez came back from the dl he is not going to be the savior of our season. Everyone is talking like this guy is lights out and he is not
July 23, 200521 yr its dontrelles moms fault... she's started to watch all the games he pitches in hte last month... ugh stupid lady go back to laying in bed and having friends call for updates each inning.
July 23, 200521 yr I believee Dontrelle's mother was quoted that she has been watching most of his starts this season, not just the recent ones
July 23, 200521 yr I'm more worried about Beckett than Dontrelle. I mean the "prodigy" can't stay on the mound for more than a month. Bad or not, at least you know that Dontrelle will make his next start.
July 23, 200521 yr He's an emotional guy, you can tell what Dontrelle you're getting by how much he bounces around between pitches. If he's going all over the place, it's going to be a long night, not to mention, he gets really excited pitching in California, and against the Cubs. The Phillie game worries me, but I expected as much from Dontrelle in his other two "shellings." He still hasn't grown up. I believe his next start is against Pittsburgh at home, it's going to be a very important start, a great one and I think we can just attest his struggles to the "Dontrelle jitters," and with a bad one, I'm beyond worried...
July 23, 200521 yr I didn't see the game...was his velocity there? Was it just him missing on location?
July 23, 200521 yr Dontrelle is a pitcher that needs a lot of things to be right in order to be successful. Mechanics, control, ump calling boderline strikes, etc. One of those things go a little wrong, and Dontrelle is going to get shelled. Hopefully he can get back on track soon, I expected a decline but not this decline.
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