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2006 Florida Marlins Predictions

 

It doesn?t look like our 2006 Florida Marlins predictions will put the fish back in a playoff chase this year or any time soon. Especially after losing two of their best pitchers, Josh Beckett, to the Red Sox and AJ Burnett to the Toronto Bluejays. They also lost their closer in Todd Jones to the Detroit Tigers, and they picked up Joe Borowski to fill the void. I?m not convinced he?ll be able to get the job done. The Marlins do still have an ace in Dontrelle Willis, but it will be nearly impossible to repeat his 22 win season that he had in 2005.

 

The Marlins weren?t bad at the plate last year, surprisingly leading the National League with a .272 average, but they don?t return hardly any of their big bats and will have to rely on a bunch of rookies. Miguel Cabrera is back though and will be able to post MVP like numbers if opposing pitchers pitch to him at all. This guy is as solid as they come, batting .323 last year with 33 home runs and 116 runs batted in.

 

The Marlins are an organization which, to me, makes baseball look bad. They win a World Series, hold a fire-sail, and then start rebuilding again. This isn?t conducive of building a good fan base and it has shown. The last time they did seem to rebuild fairly quickly. They have had back to back seasons hanging around the .500 mark and losing backers units. But you never know. If they make the playoffs they seem to be able to win the World Series as their only 2 playoff appearances in franchise history have led to World Series Championships. I would suspect the Chicago Cubs among others are envious. But the recipe for success is really quite simple. If you spend the money to get the players, you win.

 

You can expect Florida to crush left handed pitching and that?s about all. Although, there numbers could suffer with the losses of several key players. We?ll have to keep on the lookout in the early going. The Marlins won 22 of 32 games as a road favorite when facing left handed pitching the last 3 years. Another lesser known trend that you should be on the lookout for is how teams respond after a loss. Do they rebound well, or does it get them in a rut. If the Marlins lose by double-digits, they come out the next game playing inspired ball. In fact, they have won 22 of 34 for a positive 10 unit gain after a double-digit loss. However, they are minus 11 units coming off a loss and minus 24 units after a win the past 2 seasons. I would expect these stats to vary some in 2006, but expect the Marlins to once again find some motivation after a big loss, especially early in the season. They could lose motivation later in the year if they find themselves too far down in the hole.

 

If this team gets past 70 wins, it will be a major success. There is no doubt that bettors will be going against Florida heavily this season, so pick your sports and join them when Willis hits the mound as good value should present itself.

 

 

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Weak market leads to another Marlins fire sale

Club already has unloaded 3 high-priced stars, more shakeups likely

Updated: 6:20 p.m. ET Nov 29, 2005

 

 

MIAMI - The offseason is usually when hope truly springs eternal for most baseball fans, the time when rumors run wild about which players will be acquired and when championship dreams are hatched.

 

Not in Miami this year.

 

That traditional wait-?til-next-year mantra doesn?t apply these days in South Florida, where three high-priced stars already have been traded, where more roster shakeups are likely. And the team says it may move after the 2007 season.

 

?I believe it?s a market that can handle baseball,? said third baseman Mike Lowell, who spent seven seasons with the Marlins before being traded last week to the Boston Red Sox. ?I?m just not sure if it?s a baseball market yet.?

 

Years of plans for a baseball-only stadium went nowhere, and the Marlins have abandoned their hopes of building a new $420 million, retractable-roof facility adjacent to the Orange Bowl in downtown Miami. The team?s lease at Dolphins Stadium expires in 2010. The Marlins will not renew that deal.

 

They could stay in the area, which owner Jeffrey Loria says is his preference. Other cities mentioned as potential Marlins suitors include Las Vegas, Portland, Ore., and Charlotte, N.C.

 

?I don?t think baseball can abandon the Miami market,? said Andrew Zimbalist, an economics professor at Smith College. ?If MLB does let that market go vacant, I think it?ll be one of the biggest mistakes they ever made.?

 

The Marlins have led a cyclical existence since their first game in 1993, with two World Series titles eventually followed two roster dismantlings ? many called them fire sales.

 

They won the World Series in 1997, after former owner Wayne Huizenga took a bit of a gamble and loaded up on big-ticket players such as Bobby Bonilla and Moises Alou. Huizenga won a trophy, but said he lost more than $30 million that season ? so the team was broken up that winter, and the 1998 club went 54-108. by far the worst ever for a defending World Series champion.

 

Now, two years removed from the 2003 World Series title, Florida officials call this offseason?s plan a ?market correction.?

 

But most observers simply say ?fire sale? again.

 

?Unfortunately, here we are,? Loria said in a statement last week. ?Four years after purchasing the Marlins, with no new stadium and no sure prospects on the horizon for such a facility.?

 

The only real prospects the Marlins have now are the ones arriving in trades.

 

Last week, the Marlins sent Lowell and Josh Beckett to Boston, only a few hours after moving Carlos Delgado to the New York Mets. Florida received seven prospects in those deals, and it?s probable the Marlins will make many more moves before opening day.

 

Starting pitcher A.J. Burnett became a free agent. Todd Jones, who had a breakout season as a closer, may not be back. Jeff Conine wanted to finish his career in Florida; he could prove too costly. Juan Pierre has been mentioned in trade rumors.

 

?Before I took the job, we talked about going younger this year. We didn?t talk to what degree,? said new Marlins manager Joe Girardi, who took over shortly after Jack McKeon retired in October. ?But I?m still excited about this opportunity and I?ll manage whatever team they give me.?

 

Even when his team was in a playoff chase, Lowell knew the Marlins were in real trouble.

 

Back in August, the Marlins were only three games out of the wild-card lead when they came home from road trips to Cincinnati and Colorado, two clubs long out of playoff contention. Burnett was on the mound for the homestand opener against Arizona?s Javier Vazquez, making an attractive pitching matchup.

 

That night, 17,551 fans showed up to watch. Each of the meaningless games Florida had played against the woebegone Reds and Rockies lured more.

 

?These teams are out of it in May and they?re way outdrawing us,? Lowell said. ?And even in September we?re coming down to the wire, leading the wild card with about three weeks left and we?re playing in front of 17,000 against the Braves on a weekend. That?s where it becomes very frustrating.?

 

There?s frustration on a number of levels when talking about the Marlins.

 

Dolphins Stadium is located about 12 miles north of downtown Miami. Late-afternoon traffic is awful in that direction, something that probably disuades many people from attending games and contributes to the team annually ranking among the worst in attendance (the Marlins were 28th among the 30 teams last season).

 

Plus, during the steamy, humid summer months, rain is common. The Marlins endured 24 rain delays this year, most at home, and those stoppages lasted 1,333 minutes.

 

?It rains every day. People wake up and they have tickets to the game and they just decide, ?Hey, I?m not going to go. I?m not going to go sit out there,?? Beckett said. ?And the day games, it?s so hot, it?s ridiculous to try to sit out there.?

 

But Zimbalist thinks most Marlins fans are still scarred by the initial fire sale.

 

The combination of that dismantling, along with other no-new-stadium disappointments along the way hasn?t exactly endeared the Marlins to the South Florida fan base ? and this offseason?s moves may widen that divide.

 

?Everybody got excited in 1997 and then they got smacked in the face,? Zimbalist said. ?They won?t go back for another round when that happens. ... If every time you went to McDonald?s there was someone there who threw water in your face, you wouldn?t go back, either.?

 

 

 

 

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Lost at sea

Young Marlins struggling, but they remain upbeat

 

Considering their record, and the wince-inducing way that they're losing, the Marlins seem to be prime candidates for a clubhouse meltdown. Truth be told, they're probably overdue for one.

 

But Miguel Cabrera, who passes for a veteran in these parts, is busy playing pranks on rookie Hanley Ramirez in the clubhouse on a recent day after a loss. Dontrelle Willis, an old pro at 24, is snickering at the Chris Tucker-Ice Cube comedy Friday with several of his teammates. (Willis, it should be noted, was 13 when that movie came out.) All over the room, it's pretty much pregame business as usual.

 

And the reason for that is simple: These Marlins, for all their inexperience and all that losing, know exactly what they're up against this year. They've known it for months, ever since owner Jeffrey Loria ripped up last year's team over the winter, stripped it to its bare bones and sent everybody out to fend for themselves.

 

With an average age of less than 26, the Marlins are the youngest team in baseball, and right now they're playing every bit of it.

 

But slowly, and somewhat painfully, they're learning. They know that, too.

 

"It's hard," says Cabrera, the 23-year-old third baseman, a two-time All-Star. "But I think it's going to be good for us. We're going to play [together] for a lot of years. We're going to be a good team in the future. We got a lot of time to grow up."

 

The overly green Marlins are -- there's no sugarcoating this -- an outright disaster so far. They are 11-27, which makes them the worst team in the National League and just one win better than baseball's most downtrodden franchise, the woeful Royals. We are not out of May yet and the Marlins already are 12? games behind the Mets in the NL East.

 

Florida also has a 5.19 ERA, the worst in the NL, and the Marlins are just 3-14 at home. Their longest winning streak has been two games -- though, to their credit, they've done that twice.

 

As bad as those numbers are, they don't begin to tell exactly how difficult these first few weeks have been for this roster of prospects, question marks and fill-ins, punctuated with an occasional proven player or two. The Marlins have taken a 5-0 lead in a game on three occasions this season -- and they've lost each time. On Monday night they gave up 11 runs to the Braves -- and all 11 came with two outs.

 

They can't win the close ones (they're 3-10 in one-run games), they can't win in extra innings (0-3) and they're striking out more often than any other team in baseball. They have the worse fielding percentage in the game, too.

 

Still, no backroom blowups.

 

"As the summer goes on, if we keep losing games like this, you wonder how you'll handle it," said Joe Girardi, Florida's rookie manager. "But I haven't seen it so far.

 

"You just watch them. Just the way they carry themselves. I haven't sensed that, at any time, they've been down. I haven't seen it. They just wake up every day like it's a new day."

 

This is not a team filled with utter deadbeats and bargain-basement castoffs -- though, yeah, on a team with the lowest payroll in the majors, there are some of them. Cabrera (.329, 31 RBIs, .998 OPS) is the star, an all-around talent who would be the best player in a lot of cities and who, along with Willis, may very well be playing in another city soon if the swirling trade rumors are to be believed. (Loria is on record as saying they are not on the trade block.)

 

The Marlins also have Ramirez, a shortstop who is hitting .331, has stolen 11 bases and seems to be settling down after a rough start defensively. Left fielder Josh Willingham has a team-high seven home runs and is hitting .286 with a .917 OPS. Second baseman Dan Uggla is carrying a .322 batting average. There are others.

 

But the Marlins, as their record shows, also have plenty of holes in their lineup, and their pitching needs upgrading badly. Willis won 22 games for last year's Marlins, but he's only 1-4 with a 5.53 ERA with this group, a victim of his own inconsistent pitching and some terrible defense -- his DIPS (Defense Independent Pitching Statistics) ERA is 4.05. The rest of the staff is one big mystery.

 

For all its problems, though, it's almost eerie how this team continues to believe in itself. Willis, one of the most selfless and humble players in the game, refuses to pout about his situation or his team's. He sees plenty of talent in the clubhouse. He sees good things ahead.

 

"With me not playing like I want to, but seeing Hanley Ramirez getting three hits, it's fun to see," said Willis, who pitched a gem on Tuesday night against the Braves only to give up a score-tying homer to Jeff Francoeur in the bottom of the ninth. The Marlins took a lead in the 11th and then gave it up, losing 4-3. "I love seeing [the young guys] play, regardless of the situation of us not winning as many games as we want to. They're still going out there believing they can win. You can't teach them that.

 

"Even if we get blown out by 20 the night before, the next day we're in here trying to get better. The sky's the limit with these guys."

 

At this point, getting off the ground would be a nice start for the Marlins. They are 2-4 on their current 10-game road trip, their bullpen hasn't been able to hold leads, the clutch hits haven't come, a pitcher allowed a runner to steal third Wednesday night which led to the tying run in the bottom of the ninth in a loss, there have been errors and missed relays and ... not much has gone the Marlins' way.

 

On the bright side, though, the Marlins have been tied, or in the lead, in the late innings of every one of their four losses on this trip. For this ever-positive team, that's something.

 

"Our guys are able to compete," Girardi said. "It's learning how to win those games...."

 

That's going to be the biggest challenge for the Marlins in the months ahead. They have to find a way, somehow, to turn some of those close losses into wins.

 

They have to learn how to keep that runner from stealing third. They have to be better with the gloves. They can't walk leadoff batters. They have to build up some patience at the plate and cut down on the strikeouts, get the bunts down and smarten up on the base paths.

 

"I think the way we've been hitting the ball," Willis said, "I see us winning a lot more games and see us winning a lot more of those one-run games."

 

It's a wonderful vision. The Marlins will have the whole summer to work on it, with or without their two veteran cornerstones -- Willis and Cabrera.

 

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Young Marlins ahead of schedule

Updated 6/20/2006 2:30 AM ET

By Jorge L. Ortiz, USA TODAY

 

 

 

Florida Marlins general manager Admin Beinfest finds himself in an unusual spot in mid-June ? trying to temper expectations. He chuckles at the suggestion his team might be ready to contend for the National League East title next year. He cautions that rough times lay inevitably ahead for his still-in-diapers club.

It wasn't that long ago Beinfest was defending the Marlins' offseason moves, but eight-game winning streaks like the one Florida takes into tonight's game in Baltimore have a way of generating carefree enthusiasm.

 

After sweeping the Toronto Blue Jays and holding their offense ? which leads the major leagues in batting average and the American League in home runs ? to four runs in three games, the Marlins have escaped the division cellar for the first time since April. As recently as May 12, Florida had the worst record in baseball at 9-24.

 

It's now at 29-37.

 

"We need to keep everything realistic in that we're going to have some bumps ahead," Beinfest says. "It's a long, hot summer, but we're encouraged by what we're seeing and by our talent level."

 

Pitching provides a chance

 

Especially in the pitching staff, which has allowed three runs or less in 13 of 15 June games, fueling an 18-6 run that represents the franchise's best spell ever over 24 games.

 

Josh Johnson, 22, was named the NL Rookie of the Month in May and leads all major league starters with a 2.01 ERA. Fellow right-hander Ricky Nolasco, 23, has a 2.52 ERA since moving from the bullpen into the rotation in mid-May. And lefty Scott Olsen, 22, has won his last four starts after some early inconsistency.

 

"Pitching makes them a good team," says San Francisco Giants manager Felipe Alou, whose club has split six games with Florida. "They play a clean, entertaining game. You usually have to beat them. They don't beat themselves."

 

When the Marlins announced in November they would slash their payroll ? now at $15 million, by far the lowest in baseball ? following their failure to secure funding for a new ballpark, teams lined up with trade offers to pluck away their established players.

 

In dumping the salaries of Carlos Delgado, Josh Beckett, Paul Lo Duca, Luis Castillo, Mike Lowell and Juan Pierre, the Marlins acquired 15 prospects, 11 of them pitchers.

 

Three of those players ? shortstop Hanley Ramirez, first baseman Mike Jacobs and Nolasco ? have become vital cogs. Two others, right-handers Yusmeiro Petit and Sergio Mitre (currently injured), have seen action with the Marlins this season.

 

Combined with fellow youngsters like Dan Uggla, the majors' top-hitting rookie at .314, Johnson, Olsen and holdover stars Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis, the offseason pickups have infused hope into a franchise after a stadium financing plan fell through.

 

Wherever the Marlins wind up ? MLB has granted them permission to explore relocation options ? they could become a power in a future not far away.

 

"Everybody's going to look at a team that has so many rookies on it and say, 'Oh, they're going to suck,' " says Uggla, picked up in the Rule 5 draft in December. "But we don't suck. We've played some good baseball this year."

 

Matt Herges, one of the few veterans on a club that has already played 18 rookies and fielded the youngest opening day lineup in baseball history, takes it a step further.

 

"I think by the end of this year you're talking about a team that can potentially say, 'We can compete next year for the Eastern Division,' " Herges says.

 

Ramirez, Cabrera lead the way

 

The most eye-catching rookie among the regulars is Ramirez, acquired with pitchers Anibal Sanchez, Jesus Delgado and Harvey Garcia (all three are averaging more than a strikeout per inning in the minors) in the deal that sent Beckett, Lowell and reliever Guillermo Mota to the Boston Red Sox.

 

At 6-3 and 195 pounds, the rangy Ramirez, 22, has strong arms and the kind of build that hints at power-hitting potential once he makes more consistent contact. He was hitting over .300 until a 0-for-29 skid that ended Sunday brought his average down to its current .268.

 

"I like that shortstop. He's going to be a good player," says 10-time Gold Glove shortstop Omar Vizquel of the Giants. "He's got all the tools. He can run, hit, field. He's really good and very young."

 

Cabrera, a two-time All-Star at 23, remains the club's only recognizable batter, and he acknowledges early on he wasn't getting much to hit. The Marlins, who have the third-least-productive offense in the NL, lost the first 24 games when they scored fewer than four runs.

 

"You're going to go through some rough times while you grow and develop talent," says Cabrera, who helped the Marlins win the World Series in his rookie season of 2003. "But I think this team can turn things around at any moment and head toward a very good future."

 

The sooner the better for first-year manager Joe Girardi. Girardi says he tries to look at his team's performance in 10-day increments and gauge whether it has improved over that time.

 

He likes what he has seen of late.

 

"The other thing I judge is, are my players playing hard?" Girardi says. "Is the effort there and are they prepared? And if that's the case, I know they're going to get better and good things are going to happen."

 

They already are.

 

 

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Notes: Marlins still in Wild Card hunt

Manager Girardi says Florida can still make some noise

 

MIAMI -- Despite falling to 10 games under .500 with a loss on Saturday night, the Marlins still have a glimmer of hope in the National League Wild Card race.

Sitting 6 1/2 games back of the Reds in the Wild Card standings heading into Sunday, the Marlins understand that they can make up substantial ground if they go on a nice run. However, their chances seems remote being 10 under .500 with 39 games remaining on the schedule after Sunday.

 

Manager Joe Girardi notes this wouldn't be an issue if the Marlins, or the Reds for that matter, were in the American League. In the AL Wild Card race, the White Sox are 24 games over .500 as opposed to the Reds being three over.

 

"If we were in the American League, the Reds would be 10 games back in the Wild Card," Girardi said.

 

How many wins does Girardi think it will take to capture the NL Wild Card?

 

"I have no idea," Girardi said. "Earlier, I thought 85 games would win the Wild Card. It hasn't happened yet."

 

Ironically, the race may ultimately be decided by some youngsters in September.

 

"September call-ups might be a bigger deal this year," Girardi said.

 

First-pitch swinging: On Saturday night, Miguel Olivo belted an opposite-field solo home run on a 2-1 pitch.

 

It was Olivo's 14th blast of the season, but only the fourth that wasn't on a first pitch.

 

As an aggressive hitter, Olivo is known to go after first pitches.

 

According to STATS, Inc., as of Thursday, Olivo was hitting .545 (36-for-66) when going after the first pitch.

 

"The key for him is not overswinging," Girardi said. "When he's not overswinging, he's a really good hitter.

 

"Certain hitters are a lot more aggressive than others, and you feed off their aggressions. ... Miguel is going to swing. There is no doubt that he's going to get his swings in. You can still get your swings in and still have a good approach. I think that's what he's learned how to do more and more this year."

 

Ramirez nearing 40: Hanley Ramirez's next stolen base with be No. 40 on the season, marking the 10th time in team history that the mark has been reached.

 

Ramirez will become the seventh different Marlin to achieve 40 or more steals. Juan Pierre and Luis Castillo each did it three times, while Chuck Carr, Quilvio Veras and Edgar Renteria eclipsed the plateau once.

 

Ramirez envisions himself one day being able to reach the team record of 65 set by Pierre in 2003.

 

Girardi says the rookie shortstop has the ability to steal 60, but his totals may depend on how much the team likes to run.

 

"I think you can compare him to [Mets shortstop] Jose Reyes," Girardi said of the Major League stolen-base leader. "Reyes has more big-league experience.

 

"Part of it depends on your club. It's not a question of he can steal 60."

 

The Marlins haven't been a big running team this season, partly because they don't have many true base stealers. Second to Ramirez on the club is Alfredo Amezaga with 11.

 

 

 

 

SINCE THAT LAST ARTICLE CAME OUT...THE MIRACLE MARLINS ARE 5-0. COULD WE WITNESS HISTORY AND WATCH A 15 MILLION DOLLAR PAYROLL TEAM MAKE THE PLAYOFFS? KEEP WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All things considered, they had every right to say such things. It certainly hasn't hurt us that the NL is so God-awful this year too.

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All things considered, they had every right to say such things. It certainly hasn't hurt us that the NL is so God-awful this year too.

 

 

True, but I don't think our pitching rotation gets enough credit. We are solid 1-5 starters and all are 24 years old or younger. It really is scary good.

The Marlins were just 1 of 3 teams in the NL with a .500 or better record in interleague play. They wouldve had a better record if they didnt get swept in TB early on in the season when they started 11-31. I know you cant discredit the 11-31 start but this team has played very well since the terrible start.

The Marlins are an organization which, to me, makes baseball look bad. They win a World Series, hold a fire-sail, and then start rebuilding again.

this is upsetting to read, but if you think about it, it is true.

holds up middle finger to all the haters(especially boston fans and espn analysts(which there isnt much difference))...go marlins get another win tonight against the beer makers

Why would they say that?

Who didn't see this as an 80 win team in early May?

 

because sports writers cant see beyond the length of their own arm...in baseball, its not the way you start, but the way you finish...and i believe i picked this team to win 73 or 74 games this year...which we will probably be around within a couple of games

What a season our guys are having. Not only they are overachieving but they are having losts of fun playing. This season to me has to be one of the best in our team short history becuase of what happen at the offseason. :gofishb

What a season our guys are having. Not only they are overachieving but they they are having losts of fun playing. This season to me has to be one of the best in our team short history becuase of what happen at the offseason. :gofishb

 

this season has been fun for me watching the extremely talented kids growing and maturing as baseball players and as people...and whats more fun is knowing that this is the beginning of the journey to a another teal title... :thumbup

Why would they say that?

Who didn't see this as an 80 win team in early May?

 

because sports writers cant see beyond the length of their own arm...in baseball, its not the way you start, but the way you finish...and i believe i picked this team to win 73 or 74 games this year...which we will probably be around within a couple of games You obviously missed the sarcasm in his statement.

 

 

 

I think I picked the team to win 76 games. And people told me I was being too optimistic. :D

The Marlins are an organization which, to me, makes baseball look bad. They win a World Series, hold a fire-sail, and then start rebuilding again.

this is upsetting to read, but if you think about it, it is true.

The only upsetting thing is the fact that the idiot who wrote that didn't even think about what he was writing. A fire-sail? Is there a fire, and then the team sails away?

What a season our guys are having. Not only they are overachieving but they are having lots of fun playing. This season to me has to be one of the best in our team short history becuase of what happen at the offseason. :gofishb

 

this season has been fun for me watching the extremely talented kids growing and maturing as baseball players and as people...and whats more fun is knowing that this is the beginning of the journey to a another teal title... :thumbup

This is what makes this season so special and our team is proving wrong so many people. :lol . We are very futunate to have the team that we have. Gotta give props to the scouts and the Marlins organization for our team success. :thumbup

All things considered, they had every right to say such things. It certainly hasn't hurt us that the NL is so God-awful this year too.

 

 

 

 

The NL hasnt won an all-star game since the Reagan era.

 

 

Since when has the NL not been "god-awful"?

All things considered, they had every right to say such things. It certainly hasn't hurt us that the NL is so God-awful this year too.

 

 

 

 

The NL hasnt won an all-star game since the Reagan era.

 

 

Since when has the NL not been "god-awful"?

94,95, 97, 01, 03...thats about it recently

 

 

The Marlins are an organization which, to me, makes baseball look bad. They win a World Series, hold a fire-sail, and then start rebuilding again.

this is upsetting to read, but if you think about it, it is true.

The only upsetting thing is the fact that the idiot who wrote that didn't even think about what he was writing. A fire-sail? Is there a fire, and then the team sails away?

hahaha....good find...i guess this just proves that baseball writers are without a doubt, not the smartest people in the world

All things considered, they had every right to say such things. It certainly hasn't hurt us that the NL is so God-awful this year too.

 

 

 

 

The NL hasnt won an all-star game since the Reagan era.

 

 

Since when has the NL not been "god-awful"?

94,95, 97, 01, 03...thats about it recently

 

 

 

I was talking about the ALL STAR GAME.

 

 

Your talking about the WORLD SERIES.

 

:)

All things considered, they had every right to say such things. It certainly hasn't hurt us that the NL is so God-awful this year too.

 

 

 

 

The NL hasnt won an all-star game since the Reagan era.

 

 

Since when has the NL not been "god-awful"?

94,95, 97, 01, 03...thats about it recently

 

 

The Marlins are an organization which, to me, makes baseball look bad. They win a World Series, hold a fire-sail, and then start rebuilding again.

this is upsetting to read, but if you think about it, it is true.

The only upsetting thing is the fact that the idiot who wrote that didn't even think about what he was writing. A fire-sail? Is there a fire, and then the team sails away?

hahaha....good find...i guess this just proves that baseball writers are without a doubt, not the smartest people in the world

:lol I noticed that too. :rolleyes:

Why would they say that?

Who didn't see this as an 80 win team in early May?

 

because sports writers cant see beyond the length of their own arm...in baseball, its not the way you start, but the way you finish...and i believe i picked this team to win 73 or 74 games this year...which we will probably be around within a couple of games

He was being sarcastic cause some of the posters were getting mad at articles written before or within the time frame when we were 11-31. In early May we were complete garbage and blowing early 5-0 leads.

The Marlins are an organization which, to me, makes baseball look bad. They win a World Series, hold a fire-sail, and then start rebuilding again.

this is upsetting to read, but if you think about it, it is true.

correct me if i'm wrong... but don't you spell something that youre selling 'sale' and not 'sail' like sail fish? was that supposed to be a pun, is the writer stupid, or am i dumb?

 

someone clarify

The Marlins are an organization which, to me, makes baseball look bad. They win a World Series, hold a fire-sail, and then start rebuilding again.

this is upsetting to read, but if you think about it, it is true.

correct me if i'm wrong... but don't you spell something that youre selling 'sale' and not 'sail' like sail fish? was that supposed to be a pun, is the writer stupid, or am i dumb?

 

someone clarify

The writer is dumb.

All things considered, they had every right to say such things. It certainly hasn't hurt us that the NL is so God-awful this year too.

 

 

 

 

The NL hasnt won an all-star game since the Reagan era.

 

 

Since when has the NL not been "god-awful"?

94,95, 97, 01, 03...thats about it recently

 

 

 

I was talking about the ALL STAR GAME.

 

 

Your talking about the WORLD SERIES.

 

:)

ahhh...the god awful comment made me think in general, not just the mid-summer classic...my b :thumbup

The Marlins are an organization which, to me, makes baseball look bad. They win a World Series, hold a fire-sail, and then start rebuilding again.

this is upsetting to read, but if you think about it, it is true.

The only upsetting thing is the fact that the idiot who wrote that didn't even think about what he was writing. A fire-sail? Is there a fire, and then the team sails away?

:lol :lol i noticed that too

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