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With all of this talk about trading Uggla, it seems to me it makes much more sense for the Marlins to move Cantu if they are looking to shore up holes in the roster. Our options at 2B are not very promising. However, in McPherson we have a possible replacement for Cantu at 3B. And if McPherson fails, we always have Helms to pick up the slack. That is not to say Helms would produce anywhere in the stratosphere Cantu produces - but we have a much better chance at replacing the production of Cantu at 3B than Uggla at 2B.

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I think a lot of the point of all this talk about moving Uggla though is the value you'd get in return. Cantu doesn't get you near as much IMO.

 

And I'd agree that moving Uggla leaves a big hole at 2B, but moving Cantu could hurt us at both 1st and 3rd.

 

 

I'm not itching to move either one, although the Matt Cain talk has me interested.

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I disagree. Coghlan, IMO, can produce more than mcpherson and helms. If one of them had to go, i choose uggla

 

If by produce you mean playing worse than, I'd agree. But hopefully the Marlins will be about building a winning ballclub in 2009.

 

 

then you disagree. Im willing to bet anything that coghlan would out produce Dallas " Mike jacobs 2.0" Mcpherson and Wes " I OPS .645" helms.

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Not that I want to see EITHER Danny or Cantu traded, of the two, I agree it should be Uggla because of the value we would receive in return.

 

However, I want to point out a possibility not discussed before. We all assume JAke is going to be gone, and quite possibly Uggs. Many would agree Coghlan's not quite ready. What about giving Gaby the chance to win te 1st base job, Dallas/Wes Helms splitting time at 3rd and moving Cantu to second? Jorge played 2nd with the Rays most of his time there, and is his natural position. He'd be much better defensively there, and would free up the corners where there is much more promise and possibilities.

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With all of this talk about trading Uggla, it seems to me it makes much more sense for the Marlins to move Cantu if they are looking to shore up holes in the roster. Our options at 2B are not very promising. However, in McPherson we have a possible replacement for Cantu at 3B. And if McPherson fails, we always have Helms to pick up the slack. That is not to say Helms would produce anywhere in the stratosphere Cantu produces - but we have a much better chance at replacing the production of Cantu at 3B than Uggla at 2B.

I agree but the reason why Cantu will stay is that he is a cheap contract

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With all of this talk about trading Uggla, it seems to me it makes much more sense for the Marlins to move Cantu if they are looking to shore up holes in the roster. Our options at 2B are not very promising. However, in McPherson we have a possible replacement for Cantu at 3B. And if McPherson fails, we always have Helms to pick up the slack. That is not to say Helms would produce anywhere in the stratosphere Cantu produces - but we have a much better chance at replacing the production of Cantu at 3B than Uggla at 2B.

I agree but the reason why Cantu will stay is that he is a cheap contract

Cantu will be making over $4 million when you look at arbitration comparables.

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With all of this talk about trading Uggla, it seems to me it makes much more sense for the Marlins to move Cantu if they are looking to shore up holes in the roster. Our options at 2B are not very promising. However, in McPherson we have a possible replacement for Cantu at 3B. And if McPherson fails, we always have Helms to pick up the slack. That is not to say Helms would produce anywhere in the stratosphere Cantu produces - but we have a much better chance at replacing the production of Cantu at 3B than Uggla at 2B.

I agree but the reason why Cantu will stay is that he is a cheap contract

Cantu will be making over $4 million when you look at arbitration comparables.

Lou i have read that as well, but Cantu should not get to arbitration. If he doesn't agree to a contract that is within Marlin's parameters (2-2.5 millions) he will not be with the Marlins next season...The most i see the Marlins paying him is 3 millions and that would be on a multi year contract. I could be wrong here

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With all of this talk about trading Uggla, it seems to me it makes much more sense for the Marlins to move Cantu if they are looking to shore up holes in the roster. Our options at 2B are not very promising. However, in McPherson we have a possible replacement for Cantu at 3B. And if McPherson fails, we always have Helms to pick up the slack. That is not to say Helms would produce anywhere in the stratosphere Cantu produces - but we have a much better chance at replacing the production of Cantu at 3B than Uggla at 2B.

 

 

NO WAY!!!! cantu stays!

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Cantu has played more at second base in his major league career than anywhere else. His fielding percentage there is better than he has achieved at third base. If Uggla is viewed as a top tier offensive second baseman, well, Cantu is even better. Trade Uggla.

 

I agree. Uggla is one dimensional. While I like Danny, I would rather him go than Cantu. We would definitely get more value for Uggla than Cantu.

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As Hotcorner stated before, it is all about value and how much money the player would make. Why would we trade Cantu when he is making near minimum? The reason Uggla keeps on being mentioned is he is due to make 6-7 million dollars in arbitration. Trust me Cantu is a lock for next year

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Cantu has played more at second base in his major league career than anywhere else. His fielding percentage there is better than he has achieved at third base. If Uggla is viewed as a top tier offensive second baseman, well, Cantu is even better. Trade Uggla.

How is that anywhere near true? Dan Uggla had a higher OBP and a higher SLG than Cantu. As far as "clutch", Danny hit better with RISP and better when Late and Close. He's better in almost every way offensively.

 

Plus, Uggla is a slightly above average defensive and Cantu terrible. Via Plus/Minus, Cantu was ranked 30th amongst 2B in 2006, the last time he played 2B. Uggla was ranked 9th in 2008.

 

 

Dan Uggla is better in every way.

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As Hotcorner stated before, it is all about value and how much money the player would make. Why would we trade Cantu when he is making near minimum? The reason Uggla keeps on being mentioned is he is due to make 6-7 million dollars in arbitration. Trust me Cantu is a lock for next year

Cantu won't be making near min. He'll be making a few million.

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As Hotcorner stated before, it is all about value and how much money the player would make. Why would we trade Cantu when he is making near minimum? The reason Uggla keeps on being mentioned is he is due to make 6-7 million dollars in arbitration. Trust me Cantu is a lock for next year

Cantu won't be making near min. He'll be making a few million.

 

since when? Cantu I believe is making $2-3 million this season after arbitration. He is well worth it

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As Hotcorner stated before, it is all about value and how much money the player would make. Why would we trade Cantu when he is making near minimum? The reason Uggla keeps on being mentioned is he is due to make 6-7 million dollars in arbitration. Trust me Cantu is a lock for next year

Chase Utley is better than Uggla and made $4.5 million in year 4. It would be an enormous unexpected raise to get to $6-7.

 

Cantu will be in 2nd year arbitration, and his comparables place him in the $4-5 million range.

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Cantu has played more at second base in his major league career than anywhere else. His fielding percentage there is better than he has achieved at third base. If Uggla is viewed as a top tier offensive second baseman, well, Cantu is even better. Trade Uggla.

 

 

This must be the ignorant post of the day.

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