May 8, 200917 yr Miller hasn't even turned 24 yet. Ok, but right now, he's a scrub. He hasn't proved that he belongs. When he does, if he does, will be great. But as of right now, he hasn't taken advantage of his opportunities. Although he has shown flashes, he is very inconsistent. I'm not saying that he will never amount to anything. But he needs to find himself in the minors. he's had what? 2 starts? and he's actually competed in both of them. i see a guy who's starting to figure it out. i mean, if we are going to talk about struggling, we might as well send ricky down. What about the 20 starts he had last year (6-10, 5.87ERA) ? Okay, that was last year and maybe a year too early and he did show flashes of awesomeness but on the whole, not enough to convince many he wasn't going to be a bust.
May 8, 200917 yr Miller hasn't even turned 24 yet. Ok, but right now, he's a scrub. He hasn't proved that he belongs. When he does, if he does, will be great. But as of right now, he hasn't taken advantage of his opportunities. Although he has shown flashes, he is very inconsistent. I'm not saying that he will never amount to anything. But he needs to find himself in the minors. he's had what? 2 starts? and he's actually competed in both of them. i see a guy who's starting to figure it out. i mean, if we are going to talk about struggling, we might as well send ricky down. He didn't exactly compete in his two starts this year, giving up 4 runs in both, in less than 5 innings. He has looked better though, and often seemed to cruise until completely falling apart. I hope he come backs strong and confidant and above all consistent. The thing about Miller though was at the time of the trade there was some loose talk about the Tigers rushing him and not giving him enough time in the majors. The fact that he was a key part of the trade and someone getting big bucks, probably influenced the Marlins into putting him into the rotation last year. So one, he might have been rushed up, and two he might have (or still may) benefit from being in our minor league system, out of the spotlight, and buying into the organizational view of how a pitcher should pitch. Basically, being rebuilt from the ground up, without having to face major league talent.
May 8, 200917 yr What about the 20 starts he had last year (6-10, 5.87ERA) ? Okay, that was last year and maybe a year too early and he did show flashes of awesomeness but on the whole, not enough to convince many he wasn't going to be a bust. He did struggle last year, no question. One year doesn't convince me that he's a bust though. Certainly not at 22-23. And if you're in the camp that he was rushed, even more reason to give him more time.
May 8, 200917 yr Disclaimer: I know its a pipe dream and we'll probably settle for someone no nearly as well known or sought after IF we even do go out of the organization for a pitcher. Cliff Lee will apparently be on the trading block soon. Anyone know his salary specifics and/or what the Indians may be looking for in return?
May 8, 200917 yr What about the 20 starts he had last year (6-10, 5.87ERA) ? Okay, that was last year and maybe a year too early and he did show flashes of awesomeness but on the whole, not enough to convince many he wasn't going to be a bust. He did struggle last year, no question. One year doesn't convince me that he's a bust though. Certainly not at 22-23. And if you're in the camp that he was rushed, even more reason to give him more time. The question is, should we give him more time up in the majors, or in the minors? I think the first few starts back from rehab will determine his future with us.
May 8, 200917 yr If you like Cliff Lee he and his contract are tailor-made for the playoff or bust 2009 Marlins with (moreorless) $5 million left on this season's contract and a $1 million buyout next.
May 8, 200917 yr If you like Cliff Lee he and his contract are tailor-made for the playoff or bust 2009 Marlins with (moreorless) $5 million left on this season's contract and a $1 million buyout next. Roughly what would we need to give up for someone like Lee?
May 9, 200917 yr It would likely be something around what they got CC for, which was a B+ spec, a B- spec, and a couple filler arms. So, basically, two of our top 10 specs.
May 9, 200917 yr how bout trading scrub hermida for another arm........we have gload, amezaga, maybin and coghlan for two outfield spots and we really need another starter
May 9, 200917 yr how bout trading scrub hermida for another arm........we have gload, amezaga, maybin and coghlan for two outfield spots and we really need another starter uh oh...i wouldn't say that if I were you, Hermida's "posse" is always watching.
May 9, 200917 yr Miller is a terrible pitcher... We didn't get 1 good player in return for Cabrera a future HOF!
May 9, 200917 yr Wait a second, it's May and you're telling me that our injury prone inconsistent pitcher has gotten hurt and our terrible other starter has pitched so horrible he was placed on the DL? No way. I sure wish I would have though of picking up another starting pitcher before now.
May 9, 200917 yr Hermida isn't terrible, douchebags. He's killing it right now. Miller isn't a bust. And In time everyone is going to love the Cabrera trade.
May 9, 200917 yr Hermida isn't terrible, douchebags. He's killing it right now. Miller isn't a bust. And In time everyone is going to love the Cabrera trade. In time, people learn to love their captors as well.
May 9, 200917 yr Miller is a terrible pitcher... We didn't get 1 good player in return for Cabrera a future HOF! Come on, give it more than a month (talking about Maybin here).
May 9, 200917 yr The hermi haters and lovers both exzaggerate(sp) what he does. He isn't the first rounder I thought he was going to be but he isn't the scrub he was last year either.
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