November 24, 200916 yr Seems like the Marlins are pondering taking a Mets series out of Landshark and to Hiram Botham Stadium in Puerto Rico. The series in late June seems like the most likely one targeted.... Marlins vs Mets in PR ?
November 24, 200916 yr If they can get more revenue playing 3 games in PR then they can playing in Land Shark, I can't really blame them. Plus it isn't unheard of for teams to give up some home games to play in other countries. The Panthers opened the season with a "home" game in Finland this season.
November 24, 200916 yr The driver here isn't the Marlins it's MLB which I think you'll see will bring major league baseball to the DR, Mexico and other hotbeds of baseball south of us. We already see games in Japan, the NFL in England, this is the internalization of the sport in the stands as we're already seen on the field. The mind boggles at what attendance would look like for a series in the Dominican Republic (or Venezuela were it not for Hugo Chavez).
November 25, 200916 yr I don't know what the big deal is, this is only part of the globalization of sports- more specifically the MLB. If this increases the fan base of either the Mets or the Marlins in other countries, better for them.
November 25, 200916 yr How exactly would taking games out of south Florida, raise the fan base in south Florida?
November 25, 200916 yr I thought those last Expos games in PR didn't draw well? They didn't and with a recession that is hitting Puerto Rico harder than anywhere else, the prospects of success are pretty bleak. However the frame of thought is not entirely flawed It actually potentially could develop a broader fan base rather than alienate it's present base
November 25, 200916 yr I'm not too worried about this because the Marlins have a stadium being constructed but I don't see the point. The Expos didn't draw well in PR and sometimes had only 7000-8000 fans in attendance. That's probably because the team was terrible but I don't see how the small market Marlins are going to draw down there if the Marlins can't even draw at home. Maybe if Hanley were Puerto Rican it would make more sense.
November 25, 200916 yr I thought those last Expos games in PR didn't draw well? Exactly what kind of following did the Expos have in PR? I would imagine the Mets have a rather large following there. There is a large PR population in NY. I would imagine the crowd there will make it more a home game for the Mets than us. And this isn't a new idea. MLB wanted this series to happen before but the dates or something couldn't be agreed on. I would be more upset if we had to play a series in Tokyo because of the travel time. Besides, if the fan base mostly just watches the games on TV, what difference does it make where they play them? Looks like a Mon-Wed series and we would have been outnumbered playing at Joe Robbie anyways.
November 25, 200916 yr I'm not too worried about this because the Marlins have a stadium being constructed but I don't see the point. The Expos didn't draw well in PR and sometimes had only 7000-8000 fans in attendance. That's probably because the team was terrible but I don't see how the small market Marlins are going to draw down there if the Marlins can't even draw at home. Maybe if Hanley were Puerto Rican it would make more sense. Well at least Andy Gonzalez is puertorican
November 25, 200916 yr I would think that the Mets would benefit the most. They feature one of the biggest Puerto Rican stars in the game today (Carlos Beltran)
November 25, 200916 yr I would think that the Mets would benefit the most. They feature one of the biggest Puerto Rican stars in the game today (Carlos Beltran) Even though I don't mind these 3 games being in PR, it seems like more of a home game for the Mets, they have Beltran and Delgado.
November 25, 200916 yr I would think that the Mets would benefit the most. They feature one of the biggest Puerto Rican stars in the game today (Carlos Beltran) Even though I don't mind these 3 games being in PR, it seems like more of a home game for the Mets, they have Beltran and Delgado. I know what you mean but really the only thing that matters is who has last at bats.
November 26, 200916 yr I would think that the Mets would benefit the most. They feature one of the biggest Puerto Rican stars in the game today (Carlos Beltran) Even though I don't mind these 3 games being in PR, it seems like more of a home game for the Mets, they have Beltran and Delgado. I know what you mean but really the only thing that matters is who has last at bats. On paper we will be the home team. In reality they will feel more at home. Not because of a couple players, but because the crowd will be behind them more than us.
November 27, 200916 yr I'm not too worried about this because the Marlins have a stadium being constructed but I don't see the point. The Expos didn't draw well in PR and sometimes had only 7000-8000 fans in attendance. That's probably because the team was terrible but I don't see how the small market Marlins are going to draw down there if the Marlins can't even draw at home. Maybe if Hanley were Puerto Rican it would make more sense. Well at least Andy Gonzalez is puertorican I think we let him go.
November 27, 200916 yr I'm not too worried about this because the Marlins have a stadium being constructed but I don't see the point. The Expos didn't draw well in PR and sometimes had only 7000-8000 fans in attendance. That's probably because the team was terrible but I don't see how the small market Marlins are going to draw down there if the Marlins can't even draw at home. Maybe if Hanley were Puerto Rican it would make more sense. Well at least Andy Gonzalez is puertorican I think we let him go. We did!
November 29, 200916 yr Author I would think that the Mets would benefit the most. They feature one of the biggest Puerto Rican stars in the game today (Carlos Beltran) Even though I don't mind these 3 games being in PR, it seems like more of a home game for the Mets, they have Beltran and Delgado. I know what you mean but really the only thing that matters is who has last at bats. On paper we will be the home team. In reality they will feel more at home. Not because of a couple players, but because the crowd will be behind them more than us. Exactly, how does this benefit the Marlins in the least ? I could understand taking a Washington or Pittsburgh series to PR, but not the Mets. Not only does it deprive your home fans of their games, it feeds into the fanbase of one of the teams you are trying to beat for the division crown, and it gives them what essentially is 3 extra home games. It sends a very negative message to the South Fla fanbase, the fanbase you should be doing everything to build up. Its a slap in our face, and I can't understand why the supposed real fans on this website aren't outraged ? Maybe that's because most of the posters on this board live outside of South Fla, and it really doesn't matter to them where the games are played ? If they do this I seriously have to question, once again, Jeffrey Loria's real intentions about winning. Does he really want to win, or just to be competitive and get lucky and win the division by chance ?
November 29, 200916 yr I would think that the Mets would benefit the most. They feature one of the biggest Puerto Rican stars in the game today (Carlos Beltran) Even though I don't mind these 3 games being in PR, it seems like more of a home game for the Mets, they have Beltran and Delgado. I know what you mean but really the only thing that matters is who has last at bats. On paper we will be the home team. In reality they will feel more at home. Not because of a couple players, but because the crowd will be behind them more than us. Exactly, how does this benefit the Marlins in the least ? I could understand taking a Washington or Pittsburgh series to PR, but not the Mets. Not only does it deprive your home fans of their games, it feeds into the fanbase of one of the teams you are trying to beat for the division crown, and it gives them what essentially is 3 extra home games. It sends a very negative message to the South Fla fanbase, the fanbase you should be doing everything to build up. Its a slap in our face, and I can't understand why the supposed real fans on this website aren't outraged ? Maybe that's because most of the posters on this board live outside of South Fla, and it really doesn't matter to them where the games are played ? If they do this I seriously have to question, once again, Jeffrey Loria's real intentions about winning. Does he really want to win, or just to be competitive and get lucky and win the division by chance ? I never said it did benefit the Marlins. Actually hinted that it benefited the Mets more because the place will be far more Mets fans than Marlins fans. I live in So Fla and am a season ticket holder and it dosen't bother me a bit. Mon-Wed series, late June. If the Mets haven't turned a '09 season by then we would be far outnumbered if we played at Joe Robbie anyway. Probably still would be even if we are near 1st place and the Mets are closer to last place. I don't see why it would bother this fan base. What difference does the location make to people who only watch the games on TV? Interesting spin on the Loria thing. Way off base, but interesting.
November 29, 200916 yr The Expos didn't draw in PR because they didn't have any big names back then and several of the teams that came aren't really followed in PR anyways. Marlins - Mets should be a good draw though. There are a lot of Marlins fans in PR due to the island's proximity to FL, loads of PRs in South Florida, etc. Mets obviously have tons of fans due to Delgado/Beltran, so regardless of the recession in PR (if you think you have it bad, things in PR are horrible and have been for a while) this series should sell quite well.
November 29, 200916 yr I'd imagine the NY support would be greater... but not significantly. That would be probably the two best teams (other than both NY teams) to play in PR in my opinion.
November 29, 200916 yr I would think that the Mets would benefit the most. They feature one of the biggest Puerto Rican stars in the game today (Carlos Beltran) Even though I don't mind these 3 games being in PR, it seems like more of a home game for the Mets, they have Beltran and Delgado. I know what you mean but really the only thing that matters is who has last at bats. On paper we will be the home team. In reality they will feel more at home. Not because of a couple players, but because the crowd will be behind them more than us. Exactly, how does this benefit the Marlins in the least ? I could understand taking a Washington or Pittsburgh series to PR, but not the Mets. Not only does it deprive your home fans of their games, it feeds into the fanbase of one of the teams you are trying to beat for the division crown, and it gives them what essentially is 3 extra home games. It sends a very negative message to the South Fla fanbase, the fanbase you should be doing everything to build up. Its a slap in our face, and I can't understand why the supposed real fans on this website aren't outraged ? Maybe that's because most of the posters on this board live outside of South Fla, and it really doesn't matter to them where the games are played ? If they do this I seriously have to question, once again, Jeffrey Loria's real intentions about winning. Does he really want to win, or just to be competitive and get lucky and win the division by chance ? Because this affects wins and losses? You're making a big deal about this.
November 29, 200916 yr Exactly, how does this benefit the Marlins in the least ? I could understand taking a Washington or Pittsburgh series to PR, but not the Mets. Not only does it deprive your home fans of their games, it feeds into the fanbase of one of the teams you are trying to beat for the division crown, and it gives them what essentially is 3 extra home games. It sends a very negative message to the South Fla fanbase, the fanbase you should be doing everything to build up. Its a slap in our face, and I can't understand why the supposed real fans on this website aren't outraged ? Maybe that's because most of the posters on this board live outside of South Fla, and it really doesn't matter to them where the games are played ? If they do this I seriously have to question, once again, Jeffrey Loria's real intentions about winning. Does he really want to win, or just to be competitive and get lucky and win the division by chance ? Because this affects wins and losses? You're making a big deal about this. it takes away 3 homes games, i don't know if that really screams "loria hates winning" but i'd say it could affect wins/losses.
November 29, 200916 yr Exactly, how does this benefit the Marlins in the least ? I could understand taking a Washington or Pittsburgh series to PR, but not the Mets. Not only does it deprive your home fans of their games, it feeds into the fanbase of one of the teams you are trying to beat for the division crown, and it gives them what essentially is 3 extra home games. It sends a very negative message to the South Fla fanbase, the fanbase you should be doing everything to build up. Its a slap in our face, and I can't understand why the supposed real fans on this website aren't outraged ? Maybe that's because most of the posters on this board live outside of South Fla, and it really doesn't matter to them where the games are played ? If they do this I seriously have to question, once again, Jeffrey Loria's real intentions about winning. Does he really want to win, or just to be competitive and get lucky and win the division by chance ? Because this affects wins and losses? You're making a big deal about this. it takes away 3 homes games, i don't know if that really screams "loria hates winning" but i'd say it could affect wins/losses. Well, I mean... it's 3 home games against the Mets. There might actually be a less Met-centric crowd in PR than here.
November 29, 200916 yr But you're also looking at the travel/hotel/ect aspect that comes with away games.
December 3, 200916 yr Exactly, how does this benefit the Marlins in the least ? I could understand taking a Washington or Pittsburgh series to PR, but not the Mets. Not only does it deprive your home fans of their games, it feeds into the fanbase of one of the teams you are trying to beat for the division crown, and it gives them what essentially is 3 extra home games. It sends a very negative message to the South Fla fanbase, the fanbase you should be doing everything to build up. Its a slap in our face, and I can't understand why the supposed real fans on this website aren't outraged ? Maybe that's because most of the posters on this board live outside of South Fla, and it really doesn't matter to them where the games are played ? If they do this I seriously have to question, once again, Jeffrey Loria's real intentions about winning. Does he really want to win, or just to be competitive and get lucky and win the division by chance ? Because this affects wins and losses? You're making a big deal about this. it takes away 3 homes games, i don't know if that really screams "loria hates winning" but i'd say it could affect wins/losses. Well, I mean... it's 3 home games against the Mets. There might actually be a less Met-centric crowd in PR than here. Couldn't agree more. Especially a Mon-Wed series. And anyone that has actually gone to a weekday game vs the Mets (or Phillies) and says differently is blind. And deaf. And I will apologize to the blind and deaf for saying that. I think I just insulted them.
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