Posted January 26, 201015 yr Yeah I know, this may be too early, but I'm bored and thought I'd generate some discussion. You can do it however you want - based off potential, based off performance towards the end of last year, whatever. My rotation: 1. JJ 2. Nolasco 3. Sanchez 4. Volstad 5. West I'm predicting Miller starting in the minors, with a call-up a few months into the season. RVH in the pen.
January 26, 201015 yr I really can't argue with the people in the rotation, I would move Sanchez down to #5 in mine. As frustrating as Miller has been, I think he could be a solid #3 in the future of this rotation. RVH has to getting close to being out of options so he and Badenhop should be able to fill the role of spot starter/innings eater.
January 26, 201015 yr 1. JJ 2. Nolasco 3. Volstad 4. Sanchez 5. Miller Meh, the first 2 I can guarantee but the rest are just random. I'm optimistic about Miller finally coming through, but have doubts on Sanchez. Volstad should be better this season.
January 26, 201015 yr i know it is all right handers but who cares its about who is the best pitcher not what arm you throw with. Johnson Nolasco Sanchez Volstad (if he can fix himself- hence no more home runs) VandenHurk (showed a lot of promise last year and hes older than west so its his time to prove himself).
January 26, 201015 yr JJ Nolasco Volstad Miller Sanchez I honestly believe West will have a better spring training, but I don't believe this front office is willing to call Miller a failed experiment yet. So Miller and VandenHurk are the main guys who will come in if any of these guys falters in the way Nolasco did beginning of the year and Volstad middle to end of the year. And West starts off in the minors, VandenHurk and Badenhop become the two long relievers, Brian Sanches/Dan Meyer take over Brendan Donnelly/Kiko Calero role.
January 26, 201015 yr 1. JJ 2. Nolasco 3. Volstad 4. Anibal 5. Miller the first two sports are pretty much sketched in stone. and i'm pretty sure that volstad and anibal will be somewhere in the remaining spots. so i think that miller and west will compete for the last spot. i just went with miller because his so called "potential" has to come sooner or later........right?
January 26, 201015 yr 1. JJ 2. Nolasco 3. Sanchez 4. West 5. RVH I don't think Volstad makes the rotation to start the year.
January 27, 201015 yr Johnson, Nolasco, Sanchez, Volstad, Miller I expect Miller to be on a short leash though, and if he struggles to begin the season, he will go down to the minors to be replaced by either RVH or West.
January 27, 201015 yr 1. JJ 2. Nolasco 3. Sanchez 4. West 5. RVH I don't think Volstad makes the rotation to start the year. Really? Why? I'm curious.
January 27, 201015 yr 1. JJ 2. Nolasco 3. Sanchez 4. West 5. RVH I don't think Volstad makes the rotation to start the year. I highly doubt Voly misses the rotation, especially not to be pushed out by RVH.
January 28, 201015 yr I predict this out of the gate--- 1. Josh Johnson 2. Ricky Nolasco 3. Chris Volstad 4. Sean West this in May 1. Josh Johnson 2. Ricky Nolasco 3. Chris Volstad 4. Anibal Sanchez 5. Sean West this in june 1. Josh Johnson 2. Ricky Nolasco 3. Chris Volstad 4. Sean West 5. Rick Vandenhurk Anibal into the Pen this in August/Sept 1. Josh Johnson 2. Ricky Nolasco 3. Chris Volstad 4. Sean West/RVH 5. Andrew Miller Loser of west/rvh into pen
January 28, 201015 yr I really though Andrew Miller burned his last option this year. I could be wrong, but if it is as I remember then there is little chance he starts in the minors. RVH is in the same boat as well, and that's one of the factors I see that will possibly lead to a bullpen role for him and maybe an eventual chance to close.
January 28, 201015 yr I really though Andrew Miller burned his last option this year. I could be wrong, but if it is as I remember then there is little chance he starts in the minors. RVH is in the same boat as well, and that's one of the factors I see that will possibly lead to a bullpen role for him and maybe an eventual chance to close. Does anyone know the answer to this? I'm curious. I'm not expecting big things from Miller next season so I'm interested to see what the Marlins do with him.
January 28, 201015 yr I'm not expecting big things from Miller next season so I'm interested to see what the Marlins do with him. They love Miller and are just "waiting" for him to grow up like most big lefties do. -- First things first, we need a 5th starter three times until May 9th. That's pretty awesome. Someone is just going to be hanging around in the bullpen a lot. Second, I'd suspect they want to keep Anibal on a normal routine and not have him throwing on and off from the bullpen. Third, the lefties are really volatile and Volstad has proven the most. JJ, Nolasco, Anibal, Volstad, with Miller coming out of the pen, picking up the two starts in April, and then entering rotation full time May 9th. Vanden Hurk is a reliever from day 1. West stays in AAA and hopefully doesn't throw a tantrum. So opening day, I see this. JJ Nolasco Anibal Volstad Nunez Sanches Meyer Pinto Vanden Hurk Badenhop Wood/Leroux/Penn/Other MILB Free Agent we have no idea about yet A. Miller
January 28, 201015 yr I really though Andrew Miller burned his last option this year. I could be wrong, but if it is as I remember then there is little chance he starts in the minors. RVH is in the same boat as well, and that's one of the factors I see that will possibly lead to a bullpen role for him and maybe an eventual chance to close. He had an optioned used in: 2006, 2007, and 2009. He gets 4 option years, so he gets one more option. "A player may be eligible for a fourth option year if he has been optioned in three seasons but does not yet have five full seasons of professional experience." Miller's third option was used in his 3rd pro season, so he gets one more.
January 28, 201015 yr Johnson Nolasco Volstad Sanchez West I have a lot more confidence in West making it over Miller. West was pretty consistent last year and decent numbers for a fifth starter. VandenHurk has proven only to be good over a short amount of innings. I wouldn't mind seeing him in a reliever's role, but NOT a starter.
January 28, 201015 yr Suprised of one thing---no ones mentioned Hayden Penn. He may sneak into that 5th starter in april role.
January 28, 201015 yr Suprised of one thing---no ones mentioned Hayden Penn. He may sneak into that 5th starter in april role. There is a reason nobody has mentioned him and that is there is absolutely no chance he grabs a rotation spot to start the season. I know the F.O always drops his name into pitching discussion but after his displays last season, he does not deserve to be on our roster.
January 28, 201015 yr He preformed well in AAA: 4.11 ERA with a 2.38 K/BB and 3.3 BB/9. I severely doubt he makes the rotation but I wouldn't write him off because of how he preformed in 22 IP at the ML level last year. Will be interesting to see if the Marlins put him in the bullpen again next year to start the year, since he's out of options. Obviously depends on how he does in ST and what they see in him.
January 29, 201015 yr Well unless Volstad regains his '08 form, I don't think he would start the year in the rotation. I think he would actually start at AAA because pitching from the pen won't help him much. Maybe leave him down in AAA for 5 starts or so kind of like Ricky Nolasco last year.
January 29, 201015 yr Author BTW, not that I think he'll make it, but Clay Hensley could be a surprise packet... if the FO think that maybe some of the younger guys need some further time in the minors to work on their control and/or conditioning, he could be called upon. He had some great numbers in AAA last year. At worst, he'll be a solid fill-in option when injuries hit.
January 29, 201015 yr Yeah, I was real happy we re-signed him. At worst, he's better than John Koronka and Teddy Graham if we need to call up somebody from the minors.
January 30, 201015 yr Well, even Hayden Penn and Clay Hensley have been mentioned, but it is a surprise that nobody has mentioned Burke Badenhop as a potential target for starts next year. I don't even remember what on Earth has happened with him, I remember him getting injured but don't remember any news about him since then. Even if healthy he won't have a stone's chance to crack the rotation, but that's as much due to the sheer numbers involved and the more high profile guys competing for 3 spots which could be contested. I could honestly imagine Hopper breaking camp as a 5th starter on a team with a more stable rotation, but there's too many guys in this organization like Vanden Hurk and Miller who are going to have a last chance to prove their worth despite inconsistent work before a guy who at best projects as stable will be given a shot.
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