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Maybin - send him down?


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I can understand the logic in keeping Wes' bat fresh, but if Maybin is not going to be playing even when we have a DH, then there is absolutely no reason whatsoever that he should not be playing everyday somewhere. He may or may not benefit from more minor league time at this point, but he sure won't benefit from riding the bench for a prolonged period of time.

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Insurance in case Stanton falters? Why waste that option and then find out Stanton can't handle the ML off speed stuff?

 

Just a guess.

 

 

Maybe if that was their initial thinking, I'd understand. But Stanton has looked pretty impressive in the way he has handled ML sliders and curves.

 

Time to send Maybin down to get some real playing time and improve. Its also time that BC comes back up here.

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Its also time that BC comes back up here.

 

 

I'm sure he'd like that too considering he's hitting 0-11 with 5 strikeouts against RHP in Triple A. He's 3-9 against LHP with 2 strikeouts and a couple of RBI. Hitting .150 is kinda funny even though its a small sample over 1 week. I know he's better then that although I don't think BC is as great as some do around here. I'd rather have him wasting away on the bench then Maybin though.

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As I understand it, it's an option YEAR, so he can go back and forth between the minors and the bigs this whole year. So, I don't really see any rationale for keeping him up for now.

 

 

Since he has yet to be optioned though, this would not count as an option year if he never is optioned.

 

However, it requires 20 days in the minor leagues for an option to be used. So they could send him down now until July 2nd and he would still have an option next year.

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Not a clue what he's still doing up. Maybin still has an option (I think by virtue of a 4th option because Detroit absolutely sucks).

 

 

Still has an option but it's the basic 3.

 

Called up September 07 (no option used and was f***ing stupid)

 

Option used in 08 and 09 = two options used

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I agree with penguino. Use the option, have him play everyday right now, and next year it's sink or swim. Team will have FA money in 2012. They can keep Cody or sign a CF for 2-3 years if need be. Don't need him on the bench. Need him to play. And be patient with him.

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I agree with penguino. Use the option, have him play everyday right now, and next year it's sink or swim. Team will have FA money in 2012. They can keep Cody or sign a CF for 2-3 years if need be. Don't need him on the bench. Need him to play. And be patient with him.

 

 

That's the key but I admit I'm guility of losing some with him now. 2 and a half years with us and he hasn't shown much consistency or good stuff at all

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At least he's been better than Andrew Miller. But then again, that doesn't say much........

 

No, it really doesn't.

 

It gets even worse when you look at the other 4 guys that the Marlins received in that deal:

 

1. Mike Rabelo- Kicking around between MLB and AAA for some team again, but not with us.

 

2. Eulogio de la Cruz- Not in MLB anymore, probably in Independent ball now

 

3. Burke Badenhop- Not having a good year in 2010 despite a great start, was good in 2009 but lousy before that. Now back in AAA.

 

4. Dallas Trahern- Was an average minor leaguer when we got him, and has basically stayed that way if not gotten worse. Hasn't even pitched in 2010, but had a 6+ ERA with NO last year.

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We got robbed by Detroit. Miggy is absolutely tearing it up over there. MVP candidate this season, for sure.

 

 

Miggy's an MVP candidate going into every season, as he is as guaranteed to provide awesome offense as any player in the league, even more than Pujols because he has never had an injury. It's the same as it was when he was traded, and I knew going into it that he was worth some team trading the farm to get him. When I saw that the farm we got was two prospects with considerable question marks, plus a smattering of non-prospects that practically equated to the farm, I just shook my head.

 

i don't know how to explain it, but the minute I found out about that deal I knew that Andrew Miller and Cameron Maybin were both not going to amount to anything. i was incredibly suspicious of both as I remembered Detroit calling them up much too early, and for no real good reason.

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Andrew Miller is a lefty, so you usually need to have more patience with them than others. They take longer to develop. And Maybin just needs to translate his tools into baseball. His combination of speed and power will come around.

 

 

The time for patience has come and gone. Although his troubles this year may be as due to having to really work on something as much as anything else, we were much too patient with him as he completely stunk up the joint. Also, he was pegged for success in the first place because he was supposed to be able to throw 95 and even much higher. That 95 MPH fastball was barely touching 85 in his first outings with us and even when he seemed to get more comfortable he was barely touching 90. So in other words, the reasons for why he was supposed to be successful eventually, even if he struggled at first, pretty much disappeared for whatever reason. Patience isn't going to bring that back.

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He's 25. Apparently, you aren't patient enough. Right now, he's probably tweaking some things down in the minors, hopefully going back to his old days when he threw 95. Roy Halladay sucked, too. He got the same treatment as Miller, and now he's one of the most dominant pitchers in baseball.

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Andrew Miller is a lefty, so you usually need to have more patience with them than others. They take longer to develop. And Maybin just needs to translate his tools into baseball. His combination of speed and power will come around.

 

 

The time for patience has come and gone. Although his troubles this year may be as due to having to really work on something as much as anything else, we were much too patient with him as he completely stunk up the joint. Also, he was pegged for success in the first place because he was supposed to be able to throw 95 and even much higher. That 95 MPH fastball was barely touching 85 in his first outings with us and even when he seemed to get more comfortable he was barely touching 90. So in other words, the reasons for why he was supposed to be successful eventually, even if he struggled at first, pretty much disappeared for whatever reason. Patience isn't going to bring that back.

 

Ive seen Miller throw consistently 96 and better a number of times. It was when he really started to lose his control that Wiley or who ever tried to change something and he suddenly started throwing 89-90. I still hold a glimmer of hope for him but my patience with him is just about shot.

 

I'm pretty much done with Maybin though. There is probably tons of guys in the minors who can run and show power in BP like Maybin. I like Maybin and feel like hes some one who really cares about how he plays and what people think of him(maybe to a fault, but don't think he has the mental discipline/ toughness to consistently succeed in the majors and be remotely close to what he was expected to be. Plus I hate his swing and feel it hurts his power.

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He's 25. Apparently, you aren't patient enough. Right now, he's probably tweaking some things down in the minors, hopefully going back to his old days when he threw 95. Roy Halladay sucked, too. He got the same treatment as Miller, and now he's one of the most dominant pitchers in baseball.

 

 

I love your optimism, but the Halladay comparison is ridiculous; Halladay had had two sub-3.20 ERA seasons by the time he was 25.

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Especially considering that what matter to us and not what he becomes in his career, but what he becomes in a Marlins uni. And considering he'll be in line to make ~1.5m next year, if he continues this it's unlikely we keep him.

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