Admin Beinfest is wrong about Luna

[Marlins2003]

Our token manager has forgotten who got him here.

 

 

Luna earns PCL All-Star honors

Z's third baseman ranks fifth in PCL in home runs, RBI

07/01/2010 1:53 PM ET

 

 

(Joe Maitrejean / New Orleans Zephyrs)

 

New Orleans Zephyrs third baseman Hector Luna has been named to the Pacific Coast League All-Star team, it was announced Thursday.

 

In his first season in the Florida Marlins organization, Luna is batting .307 with the Zephyrs, and ranks fifth in the PCL with 14 home runs and 54 RBI. He leads all Zephyrs with 71 games played and 261 at-bats.

 

After hitting just .206 in April, Luna batted a combined .342 in May and June, the sixth-best mark in the league over that span, with 10 homers and 42 RBI.

 

While playing for Albuquerque last season, Luna batted .351 in 91 games, falling 49 plate appearances shy of qualifying for the PCL batting crown. In his 12th year as a professional, Luna is a .270 career hitter in 284 Major League games with the St. Louis Cardinals, Cleveland Indians and Toronto Blue Jays, and helped the Cardinals reach the 2004 World Series.

 

The 2010 Triple-A All-Star Game will take place Wednesday, July 14 in Allentown, Pennsylvania at Lehigh Valley's Coca-Cola Park.

 

The game between the Pacific Coast League and International League All-Stars will be nationally broadcast on MLB Network at 7:00 p.m. Eastern. It can also be heard on Westwood One Radio, with the voice of the Zephyrs, Tim Grubbs, calling the game alongside Lehigh Valley's Matt Provence.

 

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100701&content_id=11805484&vkey=pr_t588&fext=.jsp&sid=t588

 

It's worth noting NOLA is in one of the eastern divisions playing against teams in lower elevations and less rarified air. And they play their home games in the toughest hitters parks in the PCL.

[bobbob1313]

Who forgot who?

 

Is this post tongue in cheek, or are you actually suggesting that Hector Luna had anything to do with the fact that Edwin Rodriguez is our manager?

[fanofthefish]

Luna deserves at least a token look next time they DFA Lamb

[bobbob1313]

Also pretty sure this belongs in the minor league forum.

[Erick]

I don't get the point of this thread. Who's at fault? Beinfest or Edwin? Also, Hector Luna didn't get anyone a managerial job, that's just silly.

[MrMarlinPride]

At this point with our sh*tty bench I would love if they could DFA Lamb again, he'll probably end up back in NOLA and call down Barden to recall B.C.(struggling or not he's a better hitter then Bonifacio and Barden combined) and along with him recall Hector Luna.

 

Bonifacio can take the Barden roll as a backup Middle IF along with a late game pinch runner, Luna will take the Lamb roll as late game pinch hitter and B.C. will be used as a pinch hitter/pinch runner and Backup Outfielder.

That setup makes the Bench consist of Carroll, Helms, Luna, Bonifacio and Hayes(do we have any other catchers in the minors?) which is a sh*tload better then having Barden, Lamb, Boni, Helms, Hayes.

[bobbob1313]

I think I'd rather call up Donnie Murphy instead of BC. We don't have a 4th OFer now, why do we need one? The outfield is fine defensively, and BC's talents as a hitter aren't anything special.

 

Other than that, I pretty much agree with MrMarlinPride.

[MrMarlinPride]

I think I'd rather call up Donnie Murphy instead of BC. We don't have a 4th OFer now, why do we need one? The outfield is fine defensively, and BC's talents as a hitter aren't anything special.

 

Other than that, I pretty much agree with MrMarlinPride.

 

 

Technically Bonifacio is our 4th Outfielder and Barden is the backup Middle Infielder which is stupid in my opinion. Just send Barden down, let Bonifacio be the backup Middle IF and call up a real 4th Outfielder I'd prefer B.C. but I wouldn't mind Peterson, Cousins or Murphy.

[Sirspud]

I think I'd rather call up Donnie Murphy instead of BC. We don't have a 4th OFer now, why do we need one? The outfield is fine defensively, and BC's talents as a hitter aren't anything special.

 

Other than that, I pretty much agree with MrMarlinPride.

 

 

Technically Bonifacio is our 4th Outfielder and Barden is the backup Middle Infielder which is stupid in my opinion. Just send Barden down, let Bonifacio be the backup Middle IF and call up a real 4th Outfielder I'd prefer B.C. but I wouldn't mind Peterson, Cousins or Murphy.

 

It's really pretty freaking silly to have a guy who is not even a good infield bat be your backup OFer, considering that OF bats are supposed to be so much more potent.

[dim]

Minors are A LOT different than the majors. I agree with how bad guys like Lamb have done that Luna and BC deserve a chance, but we know this team values versatility, and we already have enough OFers. I would love to give anybody that could help this bench become halfway decent a chance, but this FO just doesn't agree.

 

Basically I agree with MMP. I hate Lamb, hasn't even shown that he has anything worth noting left in the tank. We really should just DFA him again.

[Marlins2003]

Also pretty sure this belongs in the minor league forum.

 

 

You missed my point in posting this the way I did, which is our President of Baseball Operations seems unable to make a single move no matter how minor (replacing a failing bench player with a potentially better performing bench player) and his feckless stooge has forgotten where he came from already.

 

Its about the Marlins organization, and the state they are in, not their minor league operation. Luna is symbolic of a broken system. It shouldn't take a Luna being selected for an All-Star berth to discuss replacing failing bench players that are needed to contribute on a team like the Marlins. I actually wrote something else today in another thread that was lost because of some stuff our trolls posted unrelated to the subject at hand.

 

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BTW, speaking of trolls, I picked up on the same thing as it regards "our infestation with many names" and had just IMed the boss on the subject as you posted your thoughts on same. Good get.

[Iowa]

The FO is definitely rearing their stubborn heads this year. Hopefully they start wising up before we get too far back in the race.

[prinmemito]

The FO blows this season. There have been way too many head scratching moves this season.

[Hammerhead]

I agree that we take way too long to replace struggling position players. Bringing Lamb back instead of promoting one of these guys is a good example.

[canada-marlin24]

i really hope a luna for barden move is announced tomorrow when they activate hensley and get rid of strickland.

[MrMarlinPride]

i really hope a luna for barden move is announced tomorrow when they activate hensley and get rid of strickland.

 

 

I think everyone here wants Barden gone, Hensley back and Lamb DFA'd or called down.

[canada-marlin24]

i really hope a luna for barden move is announced tomorrow when they activate hensley and get rid of strickland.

 

 

I think everyone here wants Barden gone, Hensley back and Lamb DFA'd or called down.

 

yeah but as of right now id rather have lamb then barden. and doesnt anyone hate the way lamb holds his bat....its looks like his arms are plastic and the bat looks so heavy when he swings.

[I Love Me Some Fish]

i really hope a luna for barden move is announced tomorrow when they activate hensley and get rid of strickland.

 

 

I think everyone here wants Barden gone, Hensley back and Lamb DFA'd or called down.

 

yeah but as of right now id rather have lamb then barden. and doesnt anyone hate the way lamb holds his bat....its looks like his arms are plastic and the bat looks so heavy when he swings.

 

I agree....Lamb has had at least some big league success....never heard of Barden before this season to be honest. Plus, he is a left handed bat. Sucks that Bake will be out for awhile. But all in all, the bench is still terrible...

[Rabbethan]

i really hope a luna for barden move is announced tomorrow when they activate hensley and get rid of strickland.

 

 

I think everyone here wants Barden gone, Hensley back and Lamb DFA'd or called down.

 

yeah but as of right now id rather have lamb then barden. and doesnt anyone hate the way lamb holds his bat....its looks like his arms are plastic and the bat looks so heavy when he swings.

 

I agree....Lamb has had at least some big league success....never heard of Barden before this season to be honest. Plus, he is a left handed bat. Sucks that Bake will be out for awhile. But all in all, the bench is still terrible...

I don't see why I'd want Lamb over Barden. At least Barden has a glove, Lamb has no bat and no glove. And I don't care if Lamb was good back when Barry Bonds was chasing Hank Aaron, he's not any good now.

 

If the FO thinks that Boni's glove is better than last year, then by all means send down Barden and Lamb for Luna and BC, but as for now I rather send Lamb down for Luna and that's it.

[Sirspud]

i really hope a luna for barden move is announced tomorrow when they activate hensley and get rid of strickland.

 

 

I think everyone here wants Barden gone, Hensley back and Lamb DFA'd or called down.

 

yeah but as of right now id rather have lamb then barden. and doesnt anyone hate the way lamb holds his bat....its looks like his arms are plastic and the bat looks so heavy when he swings.

 

I agree....Lamb has had at least some big league success....never heard of Barden before this season to be honest. Plus, he is a left handed bat. Sucks that Bake will be out for awhile. But all in all, the bench is still terrible...

 

How does Mike Lamb being a left-handed bat help us at all? Valuing a hitter just because he is left handed is completely ridiculous. The only thing that matters is your production, and hitting left handed hasn't allowed Lamb to get more hits than anyone else. Replacing him with just about anything would be a great idea. We should have gotten Dontrelle Willis just to be a bench bat, because he could easily outhit anyone there right now.

[Admin]

The FO blows this season. There have been way too many head scratching moves this season.

 

Couldn't have said it any better.

 

The best thing they did was bring back Ronny Paulino.

[BroncoBob27]

The FO blows this season. There have been way too many head scratching moves this season.

 

Couldn't have said it any better.

 

The best thing they did was bring back Ronny Paulino.

 

 

The worst thing they have been doing is playing him until his limbs fall off. He has been doing great. His defense has gotten even better. Damn, he even threw behind a runner the other day for an out. (Something I guess Baker thinks is illegal.) But we have a pretty good defensive guy on the bench. Give Paulino a break every once in a while.

[BroncoBob27]

I think I'd rather call up Donnie Murphy instead of BC. We don't have a 4th OFer now, why do we need one? The outfield is fine defensively, and BC's talents as a hitter aren't anything special.

 

Other than that, I pretty much agree with MrMarlinPride.

 

 

Technically Bonifacio is our 4th Outfielder and Barden is the backup Middle Infielder which is stupid in my opinion. Just send Barden down, let Bonifacio be the backup Middle IF and call up a real 4th Outfielder I'd prefer B.C. but I wouldn't mind Peterson, Cousins or Murphy.

 

Boni shouldn't be here if he is not going to get some starts in. Bring him in as a PH, and it's an out. He had one start a few days ago and he excelled. Send him down to work on things as a starter. Some guys just aren't meant to come off the bench to hit.

[Hotcorner]

You missed my point in posting this the way I did, which is our President of Baseball Operations seems unable to make a single move no matter how minor (replacing a failing bench player with a potentially better performing bench player) and his feckless stooge has forgotten where he came from already.

 

 

I'm still trying to figure this out. So you're placing blame on Edwin Rodriguez because he hasn't brought up guys from his AAA team? He was just named the permanent head coach...what, 2 games ago? Last time I checked it's still Admin Beinfest who makes that call. The criticism of Beinfest is fine, at least keeping in mind the miniscule payroll he has to work with.

 

Feckless stooge... wha?

[Out of the Past]

You missed my point in posting this the way I did, which is our President of Baseball Operations seems unable to make a single move no matter how minor (replacing a failing bench player with a potentially better performing bench player) and his feckless stooge has forgotten where he came from already.

 

 

I'm still trying to figure this out. So you're placing blame on Edwin Rodriguez because he hasn't brought up guys from his AAA team? He was just named the permanent head coach...what, 2 games ago? Last time I checked it's still Admin Beinfest who makes that call. The criticism of Beinfest is fine, at least keeping in mind the miniscule payroll he has to work with.

 

Feckless stooge... wha?

 

I also don't understand the hate for Edwin. My guess is if the organization wanted Beinfest to listen to what managers have to say then Valentine would be the manager.