What is your 2011 starting lineup and rotation?

[h2r09]

Simple, like the title says, what is your lineup, rotation and back end of the bullpen for the start of next year?

 

Mine is:

 

Maybin- CF

Coghlan- 3B

Hanley- SS

Stanton- RF

Uggla- 2B

Morrison- LF

Gaby- 1B

Paulino/ Baker- C

Pitcher

 

To me that is a good blend of power, speed, and finesse with a lot less k's then what we have been used to for the last 4 or so years. Also, unlike our lineup for most of this year we have a good blend of righties and lefties especially when Baker plays.

 

Rotation is:

JJ

Nolasco

Anibal

West

Volstad

 

Not much of a difference so no explanation needed. Hopefully Andrew Miller surprises though and learns how to throw strikes and makes us find a spot for him.

 

 

My back-end of the bullpen:

Closer- Nunez

Set-Up- Hensley

Set-Up-Ceda

 

Not much new there either. I love Ceda though if he is healthy.

 

 

What's your's?

[Anonymous]

I basically agree with everything.

 

Although, I would love if we acquired a legit number two, push Nolasco and Sanchez down, and make Miller/West/Volstad battle each other for the number 5 spot.

[Sirspud]

West is gonna have to prove that he is capable of doing more to overtake Volstad. And I know he is ahead of him right now, but don't count Sanabia out just because he wasn't prepared to start this year. He was awesome in AA and he's only going to get better as a pitcher. Really, a lot will be made clear by how West performs down the stretch. He needs to show that he is capable of doing more than what he did in most of his time here last year.

[rgkeller]

If Maybin makes the team, it will be as the eighth hitter.

 

I doubt Marlins will pay Paulino the $3M he will get in arbitration. Hayes and Baker will do the catching.

 

Marlins have three number two hitters and no real leadoff hitter. Absent a trade, Coghlan will have to leadoff.

 

The Marlins need to do some trading to get a leadoff type CFer. And a real 3B.

 

A starting lineup of Sanchez, Uggla, Ramirez, Coghlan, Morrison, Maybin, Stanton and Baker would be pretty weak defensively.

[afer13]

If Baker or Hayes are the catcher next year I will very disappointed. I can live w/ Paulino but he is gonzo. Same for Hensley. I think we are SOL at SP 4 and 5 unless something seriously changes between now and next year. Too many years of bust in the top half of the draft. That Cabrera deal is catching up to us big time as well. Not even sure what our BP and bench will look like next year. But bad is probably an understatement.

[h2r09]

If Maybin makes the team, it will be as the eighth hitter.

 

I doubt Marlins will pay Paulino the $3M he will get in arbitration. Hayes and Baker will do the catching.

 

Marlins have three number two hitters and no real leadoff hitter. Absent a trade, Coghlan will have to leadoff.

 

The Marlins need to do some trading to get a leadoff type CFer. And a real 3B.

 

A starting lineup of Sanchez, Uggla, Ramirez, Coghlan, Morrison, Maybin, Stanton and Baker would be pretty weak defensively.

 

 

 

 

 

what are you talking about? maybin will lead off. he is the only true leadoff type hitter we have and coghlan is not a leadoff guy, he is perfect in the number 2 spot.

 

i think paulino will definitely be back. We dotnt realize how good we have it with our catching platoon when healthy

[afer13]

If Maybin makes the team, it will be as the eighth hitter.

 

I doubt Marlins will pay Paulino the $3M he will get in arbitration. Hayes and Baker will do the catching.

 

Marlins have three number two hitters and no real leadoff hitter. Absent a trade, Coghlan will have to leadoff.

 

The Marlins need to do some trading to get a leadoff type CFer. And a real 3B.

 

A starting lineup of Sanchez, Uggla, Ramirez, Coghlan, Morrison, Maybin, Stanton and Baker would be pretty weak defensively.

 

 

 

 

 

what are you talking about? maybin will lead off. he is the only true leadoff type hitter we have and coghlan is not a leadoff guy, he is perfect in the number 2 spot.

 

i think paulino will definitely be back. We dotnt realize how good we have it with our catching platoon when healthy

 

How do you figure Paulino will "definitely" be back?

[rgkeller]

If Maybin makes the team, it will be as the eighth hitter.

 

I doubt Marlins will pay Paulino the $3M he will get in arbitration. Hayes and Baker will do the catching.

 

Marlins have three number two hitters and no real leadoff hitter. Absent a trade, Coghlan will have to leadoff.

 

The Marlins need to do some trading to get a leadoff type CFer. And a real 3B.

 

A starting lineup of Sanchez, Uggla, Ramirez, Coghlan, Morrison, Maybin, Stanton and Baker would be pretty weak defensively.

 

 

 

 

 

what are you talking about? maybin will lead off. he is the only true leadoff type hitter we have and coghlan is not a leadoff guy, he is perfect in the number 2 spot.

 

i think paulino will definitely be back. We dotnt realize how good we have it with our catching platoon when healthy

 

 

JJ $7.75

Ricky $6.25

Anibal $4.0

Nunez $4.0

Hensley $1.0

Sosa $1.0

and 6 at the minimum equals $27M for the pitching staff with NO new blood

 

Hanley $11.0

Uggla $10.0

Wes $1.0

and 10 at the minimum equals $27M for the position players.

 

How much more than $54M do you expect Loria to spend?

[rgkeller]

Maybin's OBP this year is under .300.

 

Might as well start Boni.

[h2r09]

Maybin's OBP this year is under .300.

 

Might as well start Boni.

 

 

 

judging by every post youve had thus far you are

 

1) completely negative about everything

 

2) actually know very little

[rgkeller]

Well, I can add up salaries and I can look up Maybin's OBP.

 

This could be a heck of team with the addition of a solid starter (Cliff Lee is available off season) and a solid above average fielding third baseman.

 

Combined with Uggla, Ramirez, JJ, Ricky, Anibal and all the young talent here and coming up.

 

If Loria would go to $75M next year and $90 in years to come, the Marlins would be flying high.

 

I hope it happens.

[gizmo]

So who are you getting rid of then to sign someone to play 3rd? Are we getting rid of Coghlan anytime soon? Don't think so.

[rgkeller]

I would trade Coghlan for a solid third baseman.

 

Or Volstad.

 

Or West

 

Or Paulino

 

Or Ross

 

Or some combination of the above.

 

I like Coghlan a lot, who wouldn't watching that second half last year,

 

But he is unlikely to become a big glove at third.

 

But the Marlins REALLY need another starter, and they don't come cheap.

[fanofthefish]

I basically agree with everything.

 

Although, I would love if we acquired a legit number two, push Nolasco and Sanchez down, and make Miller/West/Volstad battle each other for the number 5 spot.

 

Seriously?!?! Miller can't make it to the rotation in New Orleans this year, you honestly think he'll be contending for a rotation spot next year?

[rgkeller]

I doubt Miller will amount to anything but he does have the arm. He just can't control his fastball. That may come - perhaps through prayer.

 

West could be a heckofa left handed relief specialist.

 

But neither West nor Volstad is going to start throwing 97mph or keep baserunners from running wild.

[dom2613]

I basically agree with everything.

 

Although, I would love if we acquired a legit number two, push Nolasco and Sanchez down, and make Miller/West/Volstad battle each other for the number 5 spot.

 

Seriously?!?! Miller can't make it to the rotation in New Orleans this year, you honestly think he'll be contending for a rotation spot next year?

 

Ashraf has more faith in Miller than anyone else. I think we need to send him to NO to instill confidence in Miller.

[marlinfanjoe]

I would trade Coghlan for a solid third baseman.

 

Or Volstad.

 

Or West

 

Or Paulino

 

Or Ross

 

Or some combination of the above.

 

I like Coghlan a lot, who wouldn't watching that second half

last year

 

But he is unlikely to become a big glove at third.

 

But the Marlins REALLY need another starter, and they don't come cheap.

 

 

 

No need to trade coghlan for 1 yr of a solid 3b dominguez will most likely be ready by 2012. If not he might get called up that yr at some point.

 

As for next yr I think it goes

coghlan

gaby

hanley

uggla

Morrison

Stanton

Maybin

baker/ paulino ( Davis if we don't get him back)

or move Morrison to the 8 spot and everyone moves up one.

 

As for rotation, we will probably squire another pitcher like Nate to take the 5 spot and the other for stay untouchable.

 

 

Btw does anyone know wether cousins can be ready to start next year because if he can then you can trade someone else like gaby or Morrison for pitching.

[Sirspud]

I doubt Miller will amount to anything but he does have the arm. He just can't control his fastball. That may come - perhaps through prayer.

 

West could be a heckofa left handed relief specialist.

 

But neither West nor Volstad is going to start throwing 97mph or keep baserunners from running wild.

 

 

I don't even know if he has a live arm anymore. I haven't heard anything about his velocity recently and I'd be interested to know.

 

Either way, I really don't know if we ever see Miller play another game for us in the majors. It would be great if he was capable, but this is his last chance to work things out in the minors and the end of that is fast approaching.

[Ludafish]

The team has started talking about signing Ross one year longer. apparently Beinfest thinks Maybin still doesnt have what it takes. I dont know how i feel, its been rough with that trade. It feels like Miller and Maybin seem to make a step foward, then six back. Both have amazing upside...Anyone else think Miller should be converted to a power reliever? Power fastball that can hit 98, power breaking slurve like pitch....why not have him close? Ceda throwing 99 and miller throwing 97 from each side of the mound? sounds good to me...i think West is our lefty starter for now, and in 2012 Chad James makes the elite lefty push.

[dim]

Simple, like the title says, what is your lineup, rotation and back end of the bullpen for the start of next year?

 

Mine is:

 

Maybin- CF

Coghlan- 3B

Hanley- SS

Stanton- RF

Uggla- 2B

Morrison- LF

Gaby- 1B

Paulino/ Baker- C

Pitcher

 

To me that is a good blend of power, speed, and finesse with a lot less k's then what we have been used to for the last 4 or so years. Also, unlike our lineup for most of this year we have a good blend of righties and lefties especially when Baker plays.

 

Rotation is:

JJ

Nolasco

Anibal

West

Volstad

 

Not much of a difference so no explanation needed. Hopefully Andrew Miller surprises though and learns how to throw strikes and makes us find a spot for him.

 

 

My back-end of the bullpen:

Closer- Nunez

Set-Up- Hensley

Set-Up-Ceda

 

Not much new there either. I love Ceda though if he is healthy.

 

 

What's your's?

 

 

That's the exact same team I'd put out there, with probably starting off Ceda/Marinez in middle relief and Badenhop/Sanches remaining our guys in long relief.

 

I've not totally been sold to Maybin being the long term solution, but next year we have no choice but to try it out.

[Entendu]

f***ing Maybin and Miller...

[Anonymous]

I basically agree with everything.

 

Although, I would love if we acquired a legit number two, push Nolasco and Sanchez down, and make Miller/West/Volstad battle each other for the number 5 spot.

 

Seriously?!?! Miller can't make it to the rotation in New Orleans this year, you honestly think he'll be contending for a rotation spot next year?

 

Ashraf has more faith in Miller than anyone else. I think we need to send him to NO to instill confidence in Miller.

 

lol, yea. I'm not gonna lie. I still have hope for him.

 

But, that's not the only factor in my decision. He has no options left, If I'm not mistaken. So it's majors or he's not a marlin anymore, which isn't a problem honestly. Just give him a shot to make our rotation. If he does through his play, awesome. If he doesn't, bye.

[BroncoBob27]

Simple, like the title says, what is your lineup, rotation and back end of the bullpen for the start of next year?

 

Mine is:

 

Maybin- CF

Coghlan- 3B

Hanley- SS

Stanton- RF

Uggla- 2B

Morrison- LF

Gaby- 1B

Paulino/ Baker- C

Pitcher

 

To me that is a good blend of power, speed, and finesse with a lot less k's then what we have been used to for the last 4 or so years. Also, unlike our lineup for most of this year we have a good blend of righties and lefties especially when Baker plays.

 

Rotation is:

JJ

Nolasco

Anibal

West

Volstad

 

Not much of a difference so no explanation needed. Hopefully Andrew Miller surprises though and learns how to throw strikes and makes us find a spot for him.

 

 

My back-end of the bullpen:

Closer- Nunez

Set-Up- Hensley

Set-Up-Ceda

 

Not much new there either. I love Ceda though if he is healthy.

 

 

What's your's?

 

 

That's the exact same team I'd put out there, with probably starting off Ceda/Marinez in middle relief and Badenhop/Sanches remaining our guys in long relief.

 

I've not totally been sold to Maybin being the long term solution, but next year we have no choice but to try it out.

 

So you guys are saying no trades. No FA signings. Basically that Beinfest and Hill take the year off.

 

Not buying into it. This thread is about 7 months too early.

[rgkeller]

Miller cannot relieve because of his lack of control

 

If he had control, he would be an effective starter.

 

Dominguez will be "ready" if "ready" means hitting 210.

 

If his glove is as good as many say, I might take 210 and 18 HR at third.

 

Those who think Dominguez will be ready also must think that Coughlan is a short term solution and will be expendable.

 

Unless Coghlan can play center field.

[Schnellders]

Regarding the bullpen and our eternal quest to have a dependable lefty, does anyone think the club would offer Will Ohman like $1.5m for next season (making $1.35m this year) if he can show between now and the end of the season to consistently retire lefties in particular and also fare well against the majority of RH batters he faces?