Let the hot stove league chatter begin. Moments after the San Francisco Giants wrapped up the title in what was a decidedly humdrum World Series, the Major League Baseball Players Association hit the send button at 11:17 p.m. on the list of 142 players declaring free agency.

 

Taking that perfunctory first step were three Marlins: left-handed reliever Will Ohman, corner infielder Chad Tracy and right-hander Jorge Sosa. The Marlins are in need of lefty bullpen help and could be prowling for a lefty bat off the bench, so there is potential interest in Ohman and Tracy.

 

Ohman certainly fits the bill of a dependable lefty the Marlins lacked throughout most of last season, and was effective when he took the ball for them (17 appearances, 3.00 ERA, and a strikeout-to-walk ratio of 2.8 over 12 innings). Then again, Ohman -- like Nick Johnson the year before -- missed a chunk of time due to injury after joining the Marlins in a trade-deadline deal. With strong competition looming for lefty bullpen help (the Yankees, for example, have already targeted that area as one of need), Ohman could be out of the Marlins' limited financial reach.

 

Tracy might be a more realistic option. though he was far more productive as a starter, hitting .280 in 118 at bats with the Cubs and Marlins when his name was in the lineup, than he was off the bench. He went 1 for 24 as a pinch-hitter. Rookie outfielder Scott Cousins might make for a more attractive option for the Marlins in that bench role.

 

Under new guidelines, the exclusive negotiating period teams have with their own free agents has been shortened to five days.

 

 

 

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I don't really care to have any of those guys back.

 

Maybe Will Ohman, but I feel like there are better options available for the role.

I don't really care to have any of those guys back.

 

Maybe Will Ohman, but I feel like there are better options available for the role.

 

 

 

There may be better options out there, but the real question can we afford them? Welllll, maybe the question is, will the FO part with enough $ to get a better option?

I don't really care to have any of those guys back.

 

Maybe Will Ohman, but I feel like there are better options available for the role.

 

 

 

There may be better options out there, but the real question can we afford them? Welllll, maybe the question is, will the FO part with enough $ to get a better option?

 

 

That's a good point. The LOOGY that I'd be interested in is Randy Choate; however, I just noticed he's a Type B free agent, so I'm not sure how much he'll be making/whether or not he's out of the team's price range.

 

It's possible Ohman might be the best realistic option.

Oh no! Please Jorge Sosa, dont leave.

Oh no! Please Jorge Sosa, dont leave.

 

 

I shed a tear when he filed for FA

Please resign Ohman

So basically if Ohman leaves we lose that trade aswell.

 

I mean Ohman isn't someone I'd mind losing since he's aging and had some nagging injuries last year but we gave away RVH for nothing then.

 

I want to keep Tracy, he's a good lefty bat and can still play good defense at 3rd.

Oh no! Please Jorge Sosa, dont leave.

 

 

I shed a tear when he filed for FA

 

What gives him the right to file for anything?

 

This is like a "No I broke up with you!" relationship.

 

I dont care about league protocol. It should say we released him! End of story!

People are still hung up on losing Yorman Bazardo... err I mean Rick Vandenhurk?

So basically if Ohman leaves we lose that trade aswell.

 

I mean Ohman isn't someone I'd mind losing since he's aging and had some nagging injuries last year but we gave away RVH for nothing then.

 

I want to keep Tracy, he's a good lefty bat and can still play good defense at 3rd.

 

 

:blink:

 

He's an FA either way, and we'd have to sign him just like anyone else. If you feel like we "lost" the trade as of right now, then it's "lost" regardless of whether he resigns or not.

So basically if Ohman leaves we lose that trade aswell.

 

I mean Ohman isn't someone I'd mind losing since he's aging and had some nagging injuries last year but we gave away RVH for nothing then.

 

I want to keep Tracy, he's a good lefty bat and can still play good defense at 3rd.

 

 

Yeah, basically gave away RVH for a 3 month rental. Yet another brilliant move by Beinfest. Yet some on here will scream that Beinfest walks on water. I have yet to see a deal he's made since the Hanley deal that we have clearly won.

So basically if Ohman leaves we lose that trade aswell.

 

I mean Ohman isn't someone I'd mind losing since he's aging and had some nagging injuries last year but we gave away RVH for nothing then.

 

I want to keep Tracy, he's a good lefty bat and can still play good defense at 3rd.

 

 

Yeah, basically gave away RVH for a 3 month rental. Yet another brilliant move by Beinfest. Yet some on here will scream that Beinfest walks on water. I have yet to see a deal he's made since the Hanley deal that we have clearly won.

 

We knew what we were getting into when we traded for Ohman. This is usually what happens with rentals.

 

And we're jumping the gun a bit too quickly. Ohman has expressed interest in resigning, so it's not like we lost him for sure.

So basically if Ohman leaves we lose that trade aswell.

 

I mean Ohman isn't someone I'd mind losing since he's aging and had some nagging injuries last year but we gave away RVH for nothing then.

 

I want to keep Tracy, he's a good lefty bat and can still play good defense at 3rd.

 

 

Yeah, basically gave away RVH for a 3 month rental. Yet another brilliant move by Beinfest. Yet some on here will scream that Beinfest walks on water. I have yet to see a deal he's made since the Hanley deal that we have clearly won.

 

 

We won the Hanley deal and lost the Miguel Cabrera deal. Besides that, what major deals has he made? Most of his good work comes from signing players, IMO.

So basically if Ohman leaves we lose that trade aswell.

 

I mean Ohman isn't someone I'd mind losing since he's aging and had some nagging injuries last year but we gave away RVH for nothing then.

 

I want to keep Tracy, he's a good lefty bat and can still play good defense at 3rd.

 

 

Yeah, basically gave away RVH for a 3 month rental. Yet another brilliant move by Beinfest. Yet some on here will scream that Beinfest walks on water. I have yet to see a deal he's made since the Hanley deal that we have clearly won.

 

 

The Nolasco deal

The Baker deal

The Nunez deal

 

He's done better with "minor" signings/Rule V draft (in Uggla's case).

 

Regarding VandenHurk, he'll be 26 by next year. Considering what he's done, it's safe to say he wasn't worth much.

 

Losing VandenHurk doesn't bother me, at this point.

 

Regarding the lefty specialist thing, I think it would be cool if Beinfest is able to keep Ohman, and then sign a guy like J.C. Romero, as well. That actually wouldn't surprise me, if it ended up happening. Both are good LOOGY's, and both would be fairly cheap this offseason. Either way, there are options out there.

Where those all after the Hanley deal? I know the Nunez deal was(forgot about that one, great trade), but I'm not sure about the other two.

 

Regarding the Lefty Specialist, Bobby Seay could be a good name. Might be too expensive though. There are alot of names out there, though. For both relief pitching and starting pitching. The name that sticks out to me is Brandon Webb.

Where those all after the Hanley deal? I know the Nunez deal was(forgot about that one, great trade), but I'm not sure about the other two.

 

Regarding the Lefty Specialist, Bobby Seay could be a good name. Might be too expensive though. There are alot of names out there, though. For both relief pitching and starting pitching. The name that sticks out to me is Brandon Webb.

 

 

Webb won't be cheap. There are also teams interested in him starting, so I doubt he wants to come out of the bullpen. Plus, I'm not even sure he's worth considering anymore. Last I read, his velocity was way down to like 82 mph or something.

Where those all after the Hanley deal? I know the Nunez deal was(forgot about that one, great trade), but I'm not sure about the other two.

 

Regarding the Lefty Specialist, Bobby Seay could be a good name. Might be too expensive though. There are alot of names out there, though. For both relief pitching and starting pitching. The name that sticks out to me is Brandon Webb.

 

 

Webb won't be cheap. There are also teams interested in him starting, so I doubt he wants to come out of the bullpen. Plus, I'm not even sure he's worth considering anymore. Last I read, his velocity was way down to like 82 mph or something.

 

 

I actually meant signing him as a starter. And I didn't hear about that. It wouldn't hurt to give him a shot, though. He could be the number 2 pitcher we need.

Its hard to call the Baker deal a good deal considering they had him for free at an earlier point in time.

Its hard to call the Baker deal a good deal considering they had him for free at an earlier point in time.

 

I disagree. Yeah, they had him on waivers and just lost him on waivers right after because they moved him off their 40-man, but they still got him back for a guy who played another 18 games in the minors and was done.

 

 

Also, it's impossible for me to take you any kind of serious with that Miley silliness.

Oh, and the Nick Johson and Arthur Rhodes deals were pretty good.

Its hard to call the Baker deal a good deal considering they had him for free at an earlier point in time.

 

I disagree. Yeah, they had him on waivers and just lost him on waivers right after because they moved him off their 40-man, but they still got him back for a guy who played another 18 games in the minors and was done.

 

 

Also, it's impossible for me to take you any kind of serious with that Miley silliness.

 

Ya gotta remember Baker's position in the org when we finally did get him. AAA backup that because of a ton of injuries was basically the last option to call up. His bat worked out okay, but other than that.......... IOW...He filled a need that we had then (depth) and stuck around at the major league level because of his offensive abilities. I know he is well liked on these boards, but that is the bottom line.

Its hard to call the Baker deal a good deal considering they had him for free at an earlier point in time.

 

I disagree. Yeah, they had him on waivers and just lost him on waivers right after because they moved him off their 40-man, but they still got him back for a guy who played another 18 games in the minors and was done.

 

 

Also, it's impossible for me to take you any kind of serious with that Miley silliness.

 

Ya gotta remember Baker's position in the org when we finally did get him. AAA backup that because of a ton of injuries was basically the last option to call up. His bat worked out okay, but other than that.......... IOW...He filled a need that we had then (depth) and stuck around at the major league level because of his offensive abilities. I know he is well liked on these boards, but that is the bottom line.

 

 

It ended up being a good Beinfest trade. That's the point.

Its hard to call the Baker deal a good deal considering they had him for free at an earlier point in time.

 

I disagree. Yeah, they had him on waivers and just lost him on waivers right after because they moved him off their 40-man, but they still got him back for a guy who played another 18 games in the minors and was done.

 

 

Also, it's impossible for me to take you any kind of serious with that Miley silliness.

 

Ya gotta remember Baker's position in the org when we finally did get him. AAA backup that because of a ton of injuries was basically the last option to call up. His bat worked out okay, but other than that.......... IOW...He filled a need that we had then (depth) and stuck around at the major league level because of his offensive abilities. I know he is well liked on these boards, but that is the bottom line.

 

 

It ended up being a good Beinfest trade. That's the point.

 

Knew the point. Mine was there was no problem with losing him in the first place because we didn't really have a need for him.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation.