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With the Marlins already proving to be the most active team so far in the offseason, who knows who else will be traded?

 

 

Dan Uggla

- Contract talks with Uggla have stalled recently, and the Tigers appear to be interested. With Maybin traded, CF appears to be open, and the Tigers have a great young CF named Austin Jackson that I wouldn't mind seeing in a Marlins uni. On the flip side, Uggla has been a staple in the Marlins lineup for 4 seasons and is a fan favorite. He has expressed his desire to get a contract signed and stay with the team that gave his career a jumpstart. Would you trade Uggla? Yay or Nay?

 

 

Leo Nunez

- Leo Nunez was a pretty effective closer for the most part of the 2010 campaign. Despite a rough final month or 2, Leo has been fairly consistent as the team's closer. With 3 new major league bullpen guys acquired in the past 2 days along with the many guys that have MLB ready arms in the minors, will Nunez have room to remain in the Marlins pen? On one side, he will receive an increase in pay through arbitration and that money could be used in other vital areas (retaining Uggla for example) but could keeping Leo prove to be what is necessary to have one of the top bullpens in all of baseball in 2011? Trading Leo Nunez - Yay or Nay?

 

 

Gaby Sanchez

- Last but not least, one of the guys whose name has been mentioned in trade rumors - Gaby Sanchez. Gaby outperformed a lot of expectations in the 2010 season as the Marlins regular 1st baseman, and will garner some ROY attention. Plus he clotheslined the hell out of Nyjer Morgan! But I digress... is Gaby really in the long term plans for the Marlins? Out of the Marlins own Big 3 of rookies that debuted last season, Gaby has the least amount of upside. Plus Logan Morrison is a natural 1st baseman and may claim it back again in the future. But for the time being, Gaby is super cheap and under club control for 4 more years. Does it make sense to trade him now when he has all that going for him? But also, other clubs may be enticed by that very cheapness and control. Should Gaby be traded this offseason - Yay or Nay?

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Personally, I think we should keep Uggla/Gaby and trade Leo.

 

Leo offers a lot of upside to teams that want to use him in the closers role. I don't think his value will be higher than it is right now. He has the raw potential with his electric fastball and one of the best changeups. The Marlins could really use his salary for other things and the bullpen is already crowded. Plus the FA market on available closers isn't really that deep. Leo would definitely get some attention from teams with a desperate need for bullpen help. He could be trade bait for some good young hitting talent in the minors, because we are running thin on that now. Possibly even a LH bench bat from the team we trade him to, or from FA with the money saved.

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I'm willing to trade any of those guys if it helps fill a gap in our lineup/rotation with a proven MLB player.

 

 

Agree with this.

 

I wanted to keep Uggla, but after he just turned down an offer that was above market value, it's time to trade him. Gaby needs to go because he occupying a position that we need Morrison to have before this season starts. We're kind of screwing with his development by keeping him in LF next year. Nunez is scheduled to make around $4 million next year, and that money can definitely be used to either sign ourselves a CF, another bench player (pinch hitter), or possibly find a cheap starter with a possibility to be a #2 starter. Nunez should also probably net us a pretty good player considering teams are desperate for good relievers. Hell, the Twins traded Wilson Ramos for Matt Capps (mostly because they already have Mauer). I think we can get a good return for Nunez.

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Erick's idea of trading Leo and attempting to get Brett Gardner from the Yankees is my favorite possibility so far. I think this team could realistically compete - even without the #2 starter - if that goes through

 

Gardner (L)

Morrison (L)

Hanley ®

Uggla ®

Stanton ®

Coghlan (L)

Gaby ®

Catcher (?)

Pitcher (/)

 

That gives this lineup a nice mix of lefties (remember Morrison hits lefties better than righties,) and gives us real quality 1-7, not even counting the unknown catcher.

 

I'm more opposed to trading Uggla if it doesn't net us someone young who can contribute next year and somewhat replace Uggla's bat in the lineup. Lou suggested a package that would give us Bryan Anderson of the Cards and a few BP arms, which I really like. It'd give us a great young catcher + more bullpen arms to really solidify our late innings.

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Any possible trade that would net us Brett Gardner would make me :)

 

Problem with Austin Jackson is he strikes out A LOT, even more than Uggla. He also doesn't get on base nearly as much as Gardner. Austin Jackson's defense is pretty good though, and that may a major reason why we would be talking with the Tigers.

 

All I want is to start next season with a competent bullpen, Coghlan in the infield, Morrison at 1B, Boni on the bench, and a center fielder that can actually read balls off the bat. Oh, and if we have time after that, a #2 starter that isn't as consistent as Ricky Nolasco.

 

I have a big Christmas list this year. Hopefully Santa can deliver.

 

 

ALSO, Brett Gardner will not be a Marlin. We have nothing the Yankees want/need.

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lets just look at what is set in stone as of now for next year

 

c- no

1b- gaby

2b- i dont think uggla goes anywhere

ss- hanley

3b- coghs?

lf- lomo

cf- no

rf- stanton

 

jj

nolasco

anibal

 

with volstad, sanabia having chances

 

mujica

hensley

webb

hopper

ceda

marinez

veras

sanches

 

just a few pieces to fill in. just dont trade gaby

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Yay on Gaby, Yay on Leo and Mayb as in Maybe for Uggla.

 

If Leo and Gaby who are still young and talented can real us in a good MLB Proven player (I.E. Brett Gardner) and just an average arm (C Prospect) I'd be all for it.

 

Uggla is a problem right now. If he won't resign then we're forced to trade him but who would want to take on that big contract?

Only teams I could think of are Boston, Tampa, Oakland, Minnesota, K.C., Detroit then possibly Toronto, NY Mets and St. Louis

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If/when we make more trades, I hope we get position players or at least starters as prospects. I believe our RP depth is huge between what we have ready at the MLB level now, and what will be ready in a few more years.

 

Like what has been mentioned before, Brett Gardner seems like a great fit for us. He is a player who gives it 110% on every play and would be a great person to have at the top of the order.

 

This lineup by Entendu pretty much made me wet myself...

Gardner (L)

Morrison (L)

Hanley ®

Uggla ®

Stanton ®

Coghlan (L)

Gaby ®

Catcher (?)

Pitcher (/)

 

I would probably switch Cogs and Gaby, but other than that... HOLY CRAP! Gardner is a top-level threat on the basepath, LoMo knows how to handle the 2-hole brilliantly, and that 3-4-5 combo must be top 3 in the MLB.

 

I just had an idea of packaging Leo and Gaby together for a starting pitcher possibly. I'll look into it later to see what teams have SP's to give away and need a 1B/RP, but off the top of my head, the Rays would be a perfect match.

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If/when we make more trades, I hope we get position players or at least starters as prospects. I believe our RP depth is huge between what we have ready at the MLB level now, and what will be ready in a few more years.

 

Like what has been mentioned before, Brett Gardner seems like a great fit for us. He is a player who gives it 110% on every play and would be a great person to have at the top of the order.

 

This lineup by Entendu pretty much made me wet myself...

Gardner (L)

Morrison (L)

Hanley ®

Uggla ®

Stanton ®

Coghlan (L)

Gaby ®

Catcher (?)

Pitcher (/)

 

I would probably switch Cogs and Gaby, but other than that... HOLY CRAP! Gardner is a top-level threat on the basepath, LoMo knows how to handle the 2-hole brilliantly, and that 3-4-5 combo must be top 3 in the MLB.

 

I just had an idea of packaging Leo and Gaby together for a starting pitcher possibly. I'll look into it later to see what teams have SP's to give away and need a 1B/RP, but off the top of my head, the Rays would be a perfect match.

 

 

It's highly possible. They are not getting Pena back at 1st and will most likely not want to overpay Soriano so it would free up a bullpen spot for Leo.

 

It looks like a perfect match, Gaby and Leo for one of Garza, Shields, Davis and hopefully one of Rodriguez, Joyce or Bignac.

 

I'd love that deal.

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I'd only be open to trading Gaby if we don't trade Uggla.

 

 

Also, where the hell as this Brett Gardner stuff come from?

 

 

 

From me.

It seems like my comments were misinterpreted, though. Gardner isn't available by any means, as of right now. I was just saying in the unlikely scenario that the Yankees sign a Carl Crawford to make a splash in free agency.

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I'd only be open to trading Gaby if we don't trade Uggla.

 

 

Also, where the hell as this Brett Gardner stuff come from?

 

 

Nowhere really, it's just an assumption that he'll be on the block as the odd man out when the Yankees go after Werth or Crawford.

Or even would be replaced by someone like Magglio Ordonez.

 

The Yankees priority is Cliff Lee. They don't really appear to be super interested in Crawford/Werth right now, and they sure as hell aren't getting Magglio Ordonez.

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I'd only be open to trading Gaby if we don't trade Uggla.

 

 

Also, where the hell as this Brett Gardner stuff come from?

 

No offense to anyone, but I hate it when people pull these ideas out of thin air and present them as if they are even remote possibilities.

 

First it was all of this nonsense about trading Gaby to Tampa for starting pitching. Have the Marlins even hinted at all that they want to move Sanchez? A club controlled, inexpensive player. You implant these ideas and people here actually begin to think they are inevitable possibilities.

 

All of this stuff about Brett Gardner now is just as ludicrous. It might be more constructive to simply list players you think the Marlins should target, but to contrive actual hypothetical scenarios grounded in absolutely nothing (are the Yankees even in need of Leo Nunez?) seems pretty silly to me. Not to mention that it should take much more than Leo Nunez in order to get a Gardner.

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