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Marlins Second to Last Farm System in Baseball


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Baseball America just came out with their 2011 farm system rankings, and the Marlins have fallen all the way down to 29th out of 30, only ahead of the Brewers (who would have been higher before the Greinke trade got rid of most of their prospects, as well as trading Brett Lawrie).

 

I don't know if we need to hit the panic button yet, as we just graduated several big prospects last year, but we need to be careful here. There's not a lot of talent left overall.

 

1. Kansas City Royals

2. Tampa Bay Rays

3. Atlanta Braves

4. Toronto Blue Jays

5. New York Yankees

6. Cincinnati Reds

7. Cleveland Indians

8. San Diego Padres

9. Colorado Rockies

10. Philadelphia Phillies

11. Los Angeles Dodgers

12. Minnesota Twins

13. Washington Nationals

14. Texas Rangers

15. Los Angeles Angels

16. Chicago Cubs

17. Boston Red Sox

18. Seattle Mariners

19. Pittsburgh Pirates

20. New York Mets

21. Baltimore Orioles

22. Arizona Diamondbacks

23. San Francisco Giants

24. St. Louis Cardinals

25. Detroit Tigers

26. Houston Astros

27. Chicago White Sox

28. Oakland Athletics

29. Florida Marlins

30. Milwaukee Brewers

 

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When was the last time they had a good draft :lol 2007?

 

I predict they will do what they have done the last 3, draft a bunch of 23 or 24 year old filler who have no upside but sign cheap, draft a few raw but talented high schoolers who they will fail to sign, and draft a toolsy outfielder not predicted to go within the first 10 rounds in the 3rd round.

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When James, Rasmussen and Yelich produce this season, the ranking will go up. I don't want to get folks started on Skipworth, but I feel he's poised for a break through year. With a few players getting healthy and the continued development of Hand and a decent draft the Marlins could be moving up this list. As I recall the farm system was rated fairly high when Hermida and Olsen were the two best prospects so what does that tell you about rankings?

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Old news rankings.

 

Also, tell me about those guys... what's their names again?

 

Matt Dominguez

Chris Coghlan

Mike Stanton

Gaby Sanchez

Chris Volstad

Logan Morrison

 

I'm fairly certain the Marlins exhausted their farm supply. Time to plant new seeds. That's how it works for small market teams.

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I will say though that we've been really conservative in 2008, 2009 and 2010 with picks like Skipworth, James and Yelich. Granted, the Yelich pick isn't something crazy like the Cubs picking Hayden Simpson 16th (who wasn't even projected to get picked until the 4th or 5th round), but we seem to love high schoolers who may have a high ceiling, but tend to struggle a lot in the minors (Dominguez and Skipworth come to mind). We haven't drafted a college player in the 1st round since Brett Sinkbeil in 2006 (granted, he has sucked).

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How is drafting a high-upside high-schooler conservative? I think it's just the opposite.

 

 

Exactly what I was thinking. And I don't think the Skipworth pick was conservative at all.

 

Falling down the minor league rankings was expected. I'm sure Bienfest realizes the pressure he has on him, so he'll do what he can to replenish the system. He did it before, so he can do it again.

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They draft who will sign for slot. For example they passed on Shelby Miller for Chad James in 2009 over $600,000.

 

Yelich was a good although slightly under the radar pick. Skipworth was drawing rave reviews and comparisons to Joe Mauer in high school.

 

2005 was slightly ridiculous as of the 5 pitchers taken in the first round, I believe only Volstad was projected as a 1st rounder(only one projected to go in the first 3 rounds for that matter). It burnt me then and burns me now that they could have had Colby Rasmus twice.

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When James, Rasmussen and Yelich produce this season, the ranking will go up. I don't want to get folks started on Skipworth, but I feel he's poised for a break through year. With a few players getting healthy and the continued development of Hand and a decent draft the Marlins could be moving up this list. As I recall the farm system was rated fairly high when Hermida and Olsen were the two best prospects so what does that tell you about rankings?

 

 

I think it says a lot of what they think of Skipworth, that they signed John Buck to a 3 year deal. If they draft another catcher in the top 4 or 5 rounds I think it says they have given up on him.

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When James, Rasmussen and Yelich produce this season, the ranking will go up. I don't want to get folks started on Skipworth, but I feel he's poised for a break through year. With a few players getting healthy and the continued development of Hand and a decent draft the Marlins could be moving up this list. As I recall the farm system was rated fairly high when Hermida and Olsen were the two best prospects so what does that tell you about rankings?

 

 

I think it says a lot of what they think of Skipworth, that they signed John Buck to a 3 year deal. If they draft another catcher in the top 4 or 5 rounds I think it says they have given up on him.

I think it says they feel he needs to produce this yeat at high-A and next year at AA and then who knows? But to say they don't think much of him still is ridiculous

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When James, Rasmussen and Yelich produce this season, the ranking will go up. I don't want to get folks started on Skipworth, but I feel he's poised for a break through year. With a few players getting healthy and the continued development of Hand and a decent draft the Marlins could be moving up this list. As I recall the farm system was rated fairly high when Hermida and Olsen were the two best prospects so what does that tell you about rankings?

 

 

I think it says a lot of what they think of Skipworth, that they signed John Buck to a 3 year deal. If they draft another catcher in the top 4 or 5 rounds I think it says they have given up on him.

I think it says they feel he needs to produce this yeat at high-A and next year at AA and then who knows? But to say they don't think much of him still is ridiculous

 

This is his 4th year......and still in High A ? To me I move on to the next guy, and chalk it up to a mistake.

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When James, Rasmussen and Yelich produce this season, the ranking will go up. I don't want to get folks started on Skipworth, but I feel he's poised for a break through year. With a few players getting healthy and the continued development of Hand and a decent draft the Marlins could be moving up this list. As I recall the farm system was rated fairly high when Hermida and Olsen were the two best prospects so what does that tell you about rankings?

 

 

I think it says a lot of what they think of Skipworth, that they signed John Buck to a 3 year deal. If they draft another catcher in the top 4 or 5 rounds I think it says they have given up on him.

I think it says they feel he needs to produce this yeat at high-A and next year at AA and then who knows? But to say they don't think much of him still is ridiculous

 

This is his 4th year......and still in High A ? To me I move on to the next guy, and chalk it up to a mistake.

 

He couldn't legally drink alcohol until a few weeks ago, and catchers take notoriously long to develop. You are being ridiculous.

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When James, Rasmussen and Yelich produce this season, the ranking will go up. I don't want to get folks started on Skipworth, but I feel he's poised for a break through year. With a few players getting healthy and the continued development of Hand and a decent draft the Marlins could be moving up this list. As I recall the farm system was rated fairly high when Hermida and Olsen were the two best prospects so what does that tell you about rankings?

 

 

I think it says a lot of what they think of Skipworth, that they signed John Buck to a 3 year deal. If they draft another catcher in the top 4 or 5 rounds I think it says they have given up on him.

I think it says they feel he needs to produce this yeat at high-A and next year at AA and then who knows? But to say they don't think much of him still is ridiculous

 

This is his 4th year......and still in High A ? To me I move on to the next guy, and chalk it up to a mistake.

 

 

 

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What a load of BS. There's no way in hell the Yankees have the 5th best when they hardly even utilize theirs.

 

 

 

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Don't you remember a few years ago they were criticized for not developing players and getting all theirs through trades or FA. That's changed? They're actually using their minor league system now?

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You suck more.

 

Thats debatable. I OPS like .975 in my slow pitch softball league.

 

In slow pitch softball that should be like your batting average...

Skipworth is starting to lose his luster in many ways but he can still be a ML ball player, his learning curve is huge at this moment. He is soon to be left behind

I don't see anyone really being excited about Yelich either, even when he was selected. However he really even played much at all to show anything positive or negative

I am OK with 29th right now. No secret we have to have the talent level replenished and that will happen soon enough

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There was buzz around Yelich. The only thing people saw as a downside was uncertainty about his position. As a hitter, he is much akin to Chris Coghlan with a little more pop. Tremendous eye and patience, an advanced approach for such a young player.

 

My problem with the Marlins is for a team that by necessity has to build through the draft they are way too conservative when it comes to drafting.

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