FutureGM Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Baseball America just came out with their 2011 farm system rankings, and the Marlins have fallen all the way down to 29th out of 30, only ahead of the Brewers (who would have been higher before the Greinke trade got rid of most of their prospects, as well as trading Brett Lawrie). I don't know if we need to hit the panic button yet, as we just graduated several big prospects last year, but we need to be careful here. There's not a lot of talent left overall. 1. Kansas City Royals 2. Tampa Bay Rays 3. Atlanta Braves 4. Toronto Blue Jays 5. New York Yankees 6. Cincinnati Reds 7. Cleveland Indians 8. San Diego Padres 9. Colorado Rockies 10. Philadelphia Phillies 11. Los Angeles Dodgers 12. Minnesota Twins 13. Washington Nationals 14. Texas Rangers 15. Los Angeles Angels 16. Chicago Cubs 17. Boston Red Sox 18. Seattle Mariners 19. Pittsburgh Pirates 20. New York Mets 21. Baltimore Orioles 22. Arizona Diamondbacks 23. San Francisco Giants 24. St. Louis Cardinals 25. Detroit Tigers 26. Houston Astros 27. Chicago White Sox 28. Oakland Athletics 29. Florida Marlins 30. Milwaukee Brewers Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Not worried. Like stated, we recently graduated a lot of young guys. We just need a good draft this year and next to refill the farm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 When was the last time they had a good draft :lol 2007? I predict they will do what they have done the last 3, draft a bunch of 23 or 24 year old filler who have no upside but sign cheap, draft a few raw but talented high schoolers who they will fail to sign, and draft a toolsy outfielder not predicted to go within the first 10 rounds in the 3rd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofthefish Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 When James, Rasmussen and Yelich produce this season, the ranking will go up. I don't want to get folks started on Skipworth, but I feel he's poised for a break through year. With a few players getting healthy and the continued development of Hand and a decent draft the Marlins could be moving up this list. As I recall the farm system was rated fairly high when Hermida and Olsen were the two best prospects so what does that tell you about rankings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Beinfest Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Old news rankings. Also, tell me about those guys... what's their names again? Matt Dominguez Chris Coghlan Mike Stanton Gaby Sanchez Chris Volstad Logan Morrison I'm fairly certain the Marlins exhausted their farm supply. Time to plant new seeds. That's how it works for small market teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 As has been said 100 times in the last few months, it's because we've graduated everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share Posted March 24, 2011 I will say though that we've been really conservative in 2008, 2009 and 2010 with picks like Skipworth, James and Yelich. Granted, the Yelich pick isn't something crazy like the Cubs picking Hayden Simpson 16th (who wasn't even projected to get picked until the 4th or 5th round), but we seem to love high schoolers who may have a high ceiling, but tend to struggle a lot in the minors (Dominguez and Skipworth come to mind). We haven't drafted a college player in the 1st round since Brett Sinkbeil in 2006 (granted, he has sucked). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 How is drafting a high-upside high-schooler conservative? I think it's just the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 How is drafting a high-upside high-schooler conservative? I think it's just the opposite. Exactly what I was thinking. And I don't think the Skipworth pick was conservative at all. Falling down the minor league rankings was expected. I'm sure Bienfest realizes the pressure he has on him, so he'll do what he can to replenish the system. He did it before, so he can do it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 They draft who will sign for slot. For example they passed on Shelby Miller for Chad James in 2009 over $600,000. Yelich was a good although slightly under the radar pick. Skipworth was drawing rave reviews and comparisons to Joe Mauer in high school. 2005 was slightly ridiculous as of the 5 pitchers taken in the first round, I believe only Volstad was projected as a 1st rounder(only one projected to go in the first 3 rounds for that matter). It burnt me then and burns me now that they could have had Colby Rasmus twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heat84 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 What a load of BS. There's no way in hell the Yankees have the 5th best when they hardly even utilize theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 When James, Rasmussen and Yelich produce this season, the ranking will go up. I don't want to get folks started on Skipworth, but I feel he's poised for a break through year. With a few players getting healthy and the continued development of Hand and a decent draft the Marlins could be moving up this list. As I recall the farm system was rated fairly high when Hermida and Olsen were the two best prospects so what does that tell you about rankings? I think it says a lot of what they think of Skipworth, that they signed John Buck to a 3 year deal. If they draft another catcher in the top 4 or 5 rounds I think it says they have given up on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofthefish Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 When James, Rasmussen and Yelich produce this season, the ranking will go up. I don't want to get folks started on Skipworth, but I feel he's poised for a break through year. With a few players getting healthy and the continued development of Hand and a decent draft the Marlins could be moving up this list. As I recall the farm system was rated fairly high when Hermida and Olsen were the two best prospects so what does that tell you about rankings? I think it says a lot of what they think of Skipworth, that they signed John Buck to a 3 year deal. If they draft another catcher in the top 4 or 5 rounds I think it says they have given up on him. I think it says they feel he needs to produce this yeat at high-A and next year at AA and then who knows? But to say they don't think much of him still is ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 When James, Rasmussen and Yelich produce this season, the ranking will go up. I don't want to get folks started on Skipworth, but I feel he's poised for a break through year. With a few players getting healthy and the continued development of Hand and a decent draft the Marlins could be moving up this list. As I recall the farm system was rated fairly high when Hermida and Olsen were the two best prospects so what does that tell you about rankings? I think it says a lot of what they think of Skipworth, that they signed John Buck to a 3 year deal. If they draft another catcher in the top 4 or 5 rounds I think it says they have given up on him. I think it says they feel he needs to produce this yeat at high-A and next year at AA and then who knows? But to say they don't think much of him still is ridiculous This is his 4th year......and still in High A ? To me I move on to the next guy, and chalk it up to a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 What a load of BS. There's no way in hell the Yankees have the 5th best when they hardly even utilize theirs. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 When James, Rasmussen and Yelich produce this season, the ranking will go up. I don't want to get folks started on Skipworth, but I feel he's poised for a break through year. With a few players getting healthy and the continued development of Hand and a decent draft the Marlins could be moving up this list. As I recall the farm system was rated fairly high when Hermida and Olsen were the two best prospects so what does that tell you about rankings? I think it says a lot of what they think of Skipworth, that they signed John Buck to a 3 year deal. If they draft another catcher in the top 4 or 5 rounds I think it says they have given up on him. I think it says they feel he needs to produce this yeat at high-A and next year at AA and then who knows? But to say they don't think much of him still is ridiculous This is his 4th year......and still in High A ? To me I move on to the next guy, and chalk it up to a mistake. He couldn't legally drink alcohol until a few weeks ago, and catchers take notoriously long to develop. You are being ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love Me Some Fish Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 When James, Rasmussen and Yelich produce this season, the ranking will go up. I don't want to get folks started on Skipworth, but I feel he's poised for a break through year. With a few players getting healthy and the continued development of Hand and a decent draft the Marlins could be moving up this list. As I recall the farm system was rated fairly high when Hermida and Olsen were the two best prospects so what does that tell you about rankings? I think it says a lot of what they think of Skipworth, that they signed John Buck to a 3 year deal. If they draft another catcher in the top 4 or 5 rounds I think it says they have given up on him. I think it says they feel he needs to produce this yeat at high-A and next year at AA and then who knows? But to say they don't think much of him still is ridiculous This is his 4th year......and still in High A ? To me I move on to the next guy, and chalk it up to a mistake. Born: March 1, 1990 in Riverside, California, US (Age 21) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Hey, me and Skip have the same birthday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 You suck more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heat84 Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 What a load of BS. There's no way in hell the Yankees have the 5th best when they hardly even utilize theirs. ? Don't you remember a few years ago they were criticized for not developing players and getting all theirs through trades or FA. That's changed? They're actually using their minor league system now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 You suck more. Thats debatable. I OPS like .975 in my slow pitch softball league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Altamonte Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 You suck more. Thats debatable. I OPS like .975 in my slow pitch softball league. In slow pitch softball that should be like your batting average... Skipworth is starting to lose his luster in many ways but he can still be a ML ball player, his learning curve is huge at this moment. He is soon to be left behind I don't see anyone really being excited about Yelich either, even when he was selected. However he really even played much at all to show anything positive or negative I am OK with 29th right now. No secret we have to have the talent level replenished and that will happen soon enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 There was buzz around Yelich. The only thing people saw as a downside was uncertainty about his position. As a hitter, he is much akin to Chris Coghlan with a little more pop. Tremendous eye and patience, an advanced approach for such a young player. My problem with the Marlins is for a team that by necessity has to build through the draft they are way too conservative when it comes to drafting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexdw85 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Kyle Shitsworth. Goes along with yesterdays game and it works in more than one way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 clever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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