ELi Fish11 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Me, as a ball player in most of my youth, I personally feel he's trying to do to much at the plate. His stance just looks very uncomfortable and the mechanics of it just don't seem right with his body type. My own opinion. Of cores I could be completely wrong. I'm interested in what you think about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jclark1324 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I dunno but I play MLB 10 the show and every year in my franchise Hanley regresses and basically becomes average within five years sooo who knows. Go with the stance... Sounds safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdy_0513 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I haven't gotten to watch as many games as I would have liked so far this year, so I can't answer this poll honestly, but I played from the time I could walk all the way through college. Now I am a hitting instructor. There are so many things that can cause a player to not perform up to potential at the plate. The thing that I usually find is the issue is lack of focus, and trying to do too much (which puts you into a downward spiral). You also have to have the dedication to fix a problem too, because a slump doesn't just fix itself over night. You can have a bad at bat and be fine, but a slump is muscle memory with incorrect form. Diagnosing the problem is first, followed by taking the time to create the proper muscle memory...sometimes days, or even a week depending on the severity and the time spent trying to fix it. Also, sometimes we can get an idea from watching the game, what the problem is, but in all honesty, to get a true diagnosis of the problem, you'd have to watch him in the cage so you could track tendencies, and contact based on location of the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I dunno but I play MLB 10 the show and every year in my franchise Hanley regresses and basically becomes average within five years well that's all the evidence I needed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWiener Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I am leaving it at other, because - stuff happens is a legitimate part of a game where you have 700+ opportunities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dim Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 66 at bats isn't a good enough sample size. Try to stop worrying and let things play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I think he's hitting the ball on the ground way too much. Whatever gets him to stop doing that is what he should do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Beinfest Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 You should be smacked for option 3. Other than that, nothing there really fits it. He's probably trying TOO hard. And letting it go way too far to his head, thinking about it too much. Which means he's pressuring himself to do better and it's probably making him do worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Jones Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I dunno but I play MLB 10 the show and every year in my franchise Hanley regresses and basically becomes average within five years sooo who knows. Go with the stance... Sounds safe Bonifacio is also still a starter in 2020 on that game (I play pitcher, so the seasons go by faster). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watertown_kid Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 He stands too far from the plate and then has to move his lower body to get into hitting position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnellders Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 His swing gets far too long at times. I can't remember him swinging and missing with the bat all the way round in a huge arc in previous years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flasportsfan88 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I know I'm not a hitting coach but to me it just seams to be fluidity in his leg kick. That's his main timing mechanism, once he smooths that ouch he should be fine. I think it's a little more complicated than simply how far hes standing from the plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I'm not a hitting coach either nor do I much care for these opinions, but I would say it's a combination of all three things. 1. He stands too far out from the plate this year; it seems nearly impossible for him to reach outside pitches, and he's probably been fooled on the occasional inside pitch because he's thinking about protecting the outside corner. 2. The timing on his leg kick. 3. Longer swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flasportsfan88 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I'm not a hitting coach either nor do I much care for these opinions, but I would say it's a combination of all three things. 1. He stands too far out from the plate this year; it seems nearly impossible for him to reach outside pitches, and he's probably been fooled on the occasional inside pitch because he's thinking about protecting the outside corner. 2. The timing on his leg kick. 3. Longer swing. You don't care for the opinions but you list all three opinions made about the swing, lol. I'm not sure that came out right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love Me Some Fish Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I'm surprised laziness wasn't an option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdy_0513 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I know I'm not a hitting coach but to me it just seams to be fluidity in his leg kick. That's his main timing mechanism, once he smooths that ouch he should be fine. I think it's a little more complicated than simply how far hes standing from the plate. This is probably the case. The little bit I've seen of him this year, it's the most logical explanation. If everything else is working right, where you stand is the box is pretty irrelevant. Timing is very tricky, and can obviously jack up everything. I have never been a fan of a leg kick. I prefer a small step to keep the body balanced. The littler the motion, the less there is to go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 It's a little concerning because this is the worst start of his career.. but he hasn't exactly set the world on fire the previous two Aprils. He's only 27.. I have to think he'll start raking again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheU Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 We need to stop worrying about Hanley for now. If we're still having this convo come June, worry! I honestly think its a mix of everything except the Stanton thing. I know Hanley will be alright and back at it soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I think he's hitting the ball on the ground way too much. Whatever gets him to stop doing that is what he should do. I think that is a lot of it. His GB rate is at 60% which is ten points higher than last year and 15 points higher than when he was really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love Me Some Fish Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I think he's hitting the ball on the ground way too much. Whatever gets him to stop doing that is what he should do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I'm not a hitting coach either nor do I much care for these opinions, but I would say it's a combination of all three things. 1. He stands too far out from the plate this year; it seems nearly impossible for him to reach outside pitches, and he's probably been fooled on the occasional inside pitch because he's thinking about protecting the outside corner. 2. The timing on his leg kick. 3. Longer swing. You don't care for the opinions but you list all three opinions made about the swing, lol. I'm not sure that came out right. Well, the thing is I don't even care about my own opinion on the subject because I'm probably wrong, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyinUruguayan Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Take a look at his back foot when he swings, it seems like it slides and he cant create as much torque with it moving around during his swing. Idk if thats the main factor or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELi Fish11 Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share Posted April 26, 2011 Last night we did see a a change in the stance. Tonight let's see if his stance will hold up for his AB tonights game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELi Fish11 Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share Posted April 26, 2011 You should be smacked for option 3. Other than that, nothing there really fits it. He's probably trying TOO hard. And letting it go way too far to his head, thinking about it too much. Which means he's pressuring himself to do better and it's probably making him do worse. Hahaha hey anything is possible but i'll take that slap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Beinfest Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 haha at least you took it in good spirit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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