June 18, 201115 yr http://miamiherald.typepad.com/fish_bytes/2011/06/hanley-ramirez-hitting-201-slides-down-to-sixth-in-marlins-lineup.html PalmBeachPost asks the same question. Correct me if I'm wrong (again, maybe the Marlins losing 16 of 17 has me going crazy), but I'm pretty sure that this makes no sense. In order for the Marlins to send Hanley Ramirez down, wouldn't they have to DFA him? In which case, he'd be picked up immediately by the Pirates (or whoever is first in the waiver order, considering the Pirates claimed Brandon Wood earlier this year)? Are these professional journalists really this stupid or am I dumb? Considering they're the professionals, I really hope I'm wrong. I'm 99.9% sure I'm not, though. Coghlan and Nolasco were sent down because they had options at the time...
June 18, 201115 yr It said Hanley would have to agree to go to the minors. Maybe that means we wouldn't have to DFA him?
June 18, 201115 yr Unless he has it written into his contract that he can't be sent down, which I know can be done, I don't know why he can't. As far as I can tell, no options have been used. Never mind, just read the article. I believe that once a player has 5 yrs of experience, with the same team I think, he has to agree to the demotion. I thought it was 10 yrs on the team, but maybe not. Either way, there is some goofy rule like that.
June 18, 201115 yr Hanley needs to realise that if he goes on an absolute tear from now till the end of the season then he can still post decent numbers. It's as if he has already mentally written off this year as a bad one and wants to start from scratch in 2012.
June 18, 201115 yr Author Unless he has it written into his contract that he can't be sent down, which I know can be done, I don't know why he can't. As far as I can tell, no options have been used. Never mind, just read the article. I believe that once a player has 5 yrs of experience, with the same team I think, he has to agree to the demotion. I thought it was 10 yrs on the team, but maybe not. Either way, there is some goofy rule like that. I have the same belief.
June 18, 201115 yr If Hanley was coachable, he'd probably realize: 1) His swing is too long and slow 2) He stays off the plate and keeps chasing pitches away that he will never hit 3) He will never hit the low breaking ball that he thinks he can golf and K's on
June 18, 201115 yr Unless he has it written into his contract that he can't be sent down, which I know can be done, I don't know why he can't. As far as I can tell, no options have been used. Never mind, just read the article. I believe that once a player has 5 yrs of experience, with the same team I think, he has to agree to the demotion. I thought it was 10 yrs on the team, but maybe not. Either way, there is some goofy rule like that. It's not about using options, anyway, I believe. It's about how many option years you have, and those expire whether you use them or not while you're in the Major Leagues (again, I believe).
June 18, 201115 yr Author Unless he has it written into his contract that he can't be sent down, which I know can be done, I don't know why he can't. As far as I can tell, no options have been used. Never mind, just read the article. I believe that once a player has 5 yrs of experience, with the same team I think, he has to agree to the demotion. I thought it was 10 yrs on the team, but maybe not. Either way, there is some goofy rule like that. It's not about using options, anyway, I believe. It's about how many option years you have, and those expire whether you use them or not while you're in the Major Leagues (again, I believe). That's basically the same thing I've been thinking/saying.
June 19, 201115 yr Unless he has it written into his contract that he can't be sent down, which I know can be done, I don't know why he can't. As far as I can tell, no options have been used. Never mind, just read the article. I believe that once a player has 5 yrs of experience, with the same team I think, he has to agree to the demotion. I thought it was 10 yrs on the team, but maybe not. Either way, there is some goofy rule like that. It's not about using options, anyway, I believe. It's about how many option years you have, and those expire whether you use them or not while you're in the Major Leagues (again, I believe). That's basically the same thing I've been thinking/saying. I will have to look back to make sure, obviously in Hanley's case it is irrelevant, but I dont think the options expire if you dont stay with a single team for 5+ yrs. Like i said though, hanley is protected whether this is true or not.
June 19, 201115 yr I believe once a player has attained a certain amount of time in the Majors, even if he has options couldn't be optioned without his consent. I'm sure Hanley would tell the team to release him before he set foot in NOLA.
June 19, 201115 yr Hanley should feel so bad, his burden on the team, he should accept going to new orleans
June 19, 201115 yr "im going to put this team on my back..." Hanley Ramirez. Maybe that's the problem...a player batting .200 is taking the rest of the team with him.
June 19, 201115 yr If Hanley was coachable, he'd probably realize: 1) His swing is too long and slow 2) He stays off the plate and keeps chasing pitches away that he will never hit 3) He will never hit the low breaking ball that he thinks he can golf and K's on The guy has been ticking me off all year. What is with the pose on a swing and miss? Does he think he gets style points? To all those that said all will be well once he gets back off the the DL..........How's that working out for ya? Oh wait. JJ isn't back yet. That should take care of our offensive woes. Because the team hit so well whenever he started.
June 19, 201115 yr What is with the pose on a swing and miss? Does he think he gets style points? :lol It's the ultimate in lame. As lame as those who hold their bat out towards the pitcher for an extended period of time while waiting on a pitch. Not to mention the incessant crotch-hitches. He grabs his cup more than the rest of the team combined. Has been for years. Maybe he needs a custom fit. With a $70 mill contract, you'd think he could afford it. As it is, he's an embarrassment.
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