http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/marlins/2011/06/19/jack-mckeon-a-candidtate-to-keep-managers-seat-warm-for-the-marlins-next-hire/

 

"One prominent player, though, refused to comment. Hanley Ramirez, who not only is failing at the plate - he is now hitting .201 after going 0-for-3 Sunday - but has failed in his attempt to become a leader.

 

At least one player outwardly expressed his disdain for Ramirez ducking reporters on Sunday."

Honestly I feel bad for the guy... what is he supposed to do? Say the same old sh*t to the media?

 

He's failing. We know. I'd be more pissed off if he came up with the same crap every week to the media saying "I gotta do better".

 

Don't get me wrong, he's pissing me off. But still, I'd rather him not talk to the media.

I'm gonna say it was either Helms or Morrison who had a problem with it.

Hanley has to grow up and become a man. Until he does that, he cannot possibly be the leader this team needs. Its as simple as that.

Actually, like Dr. B, I agree that I like it better when he doesn't talk.

 

I don't understand why the other players have a problem with it. Probably because they just have a problem with him in general.

 

Regardless, everything that comes out of his mouth is stupid, anyway. That becomes really annoying when you're hitting .201. So I think it's cool that he wants to be quiet now. It's a lot better than hearing his egotistical end of May predictions. The way he's going, he might not hit 7 HR's this year, much less by the end of May.

I'm gonna say it was either Helms or Morrison who had a problem with it.

 

 

yep

 

 

one guy who really hasn't been around long enough to start criticizing, and another who's probably been around too long.

It's probably a pitcher.

Now the team is gonna start snapping at eachother...we're gonna crumble from within next. Hanley's gotta f***ing go, I don't see him and Jack getting along.

Oh geez, Hanley and Jack sounds like a bad idea but I wish the media would get off Hanley's back. Who f'n says he even has to be a leader. To me, Hanley's just a quiet guy. Where is it written in his contract that he has to lead this team off the field? If he goes back to hitting over .300, that's enough leadership for me. Leave him alone.

I bet it was LoMo.

everything that comes out of his mouth is stupid, anyway. That becomes really annoying when you're hitting .201

 

Ain't that the truth. Hanley on Edwin's managerial future 3 days before he went *poof*:

 

He's going to be here forever. I'm on his side. I've got his back to the death.

 

:lol

 

Which demonstrates a few things about Hanley.

 

1) He has little comprehension of how often managers turn over even though he's experienced it here.

 

2) He doesn't know what "forever" means, and that the only tenure that actually approached it was Connie Mack's 50 years in Philly from '01 to '51, retiring at age 87 (the only manager older than Jack, assuming he takes the job.)

 

3) He thinks that his imprimatur actually means something.

 

4) He's better off when he keeps his mouth shut.

He's not going to respect Jack because he never played in the big leagues.

Actually, like Dr. B, I agree that I like it better when he doesn't talk.

 

I don't understand why the other players have a problem with it. Probably because they just have a problem with him in general.

Regardless, everything that comes out of his mouth is stupid, anyway. That becomes really annoying when you're hitting .201. So I think it's cool that he wants to be quiet now. It's a lot better than hearing his egotistical end of May predictions. The way he's going, he might not hit 7 HR's this year, much less by the end of May.

 

 

Nope. Probably because he knew he was supposed to be a leader, accepted that role publicly, and has failed both on the field and in the club house.

He's not going to respect Jack because he never played in the big leagues.

 

This should be very interesting to watch unfold.

 

Hanley thinks Edwin was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Edwin played exactly 54 innings of MLB with 25 PAs, hitting .227 while fielding .938. Very current-Hanley-like numbers. The sort of thing that would get you sent down if you were a 1st or 2nd-year player or released as a super-annuated veteran if you're anyone other than Wes Helms.

 

Hanley is a demonstrated non-leader after, lo, these 6 years of waiting and hearing how he would become one.

 

Jack played 10 minor league seasons with 2,800 ABs. He was a catcher and hit only .210. He's managed 4,652 MiLB and MLB games. He's 1011-940 in MLB. He has 43 years of pro baseball experience, 21 at the MLB level. Jack managed a WS win. Jack had been managing for 27 years when Hanley was born.

 

If Hanley is smart he'll shut up and listen.

i remember Hanley was saying before season he was going have better season and 2010 but that not happen so untill now he having wrost season and last year

http://blogs.palmbea...lins-next-hire/

 

"One prominent player, though, refused to comment. Hanley Ramirez, who not only is failing at the plate - he is now hitting .201 after going 0-for-3 Sunday - but has failed in his attempt to become a leader.

 

At least one player outwardly expressed his disdain for Ramirez ducking reporters on Sunday."

 

 

 

 

Becauseeeee when he opens his mouth, he is clearly less intelligent than we all give him credit for, was it him and Cogs who claimed they would get their BA's up and are clearly the most slumping players on the team right now, stfu.

 

He should talk to the media in spanish.

 

This team is not meshing, going to go scan LoMo's tweets for Haney hate.

If Jack kills Hanley, are we on the hook for the rest of the contract money?

Im absolutely sick of Hanley. If he was performing then i would just be neutral with him but you cant be an egotistical prick when your playing like crap.

Im absolutely sick of Hanley. If he was performing then i would just be neutral with him but you cant be an egotistical prick when your playing like crap.

 

 

His Head is so big im surprised he makes it out the door in the morning, or in Hanley's case mid-day

On the Lebatard show they said Jack just benched hanley for tonight.

On the Lebatard show they said Jack just benched hanley for tonight.

 

Jack said he didn't like how Hanley was running yesterday. Good thing someone in the organization noticed. Hanley looks injured to me. But he says he's healthy. I don't believe him.

Actually, like Dr. B, I agree that I like it better when he doesn't talk.

 

I don't understand why the other players have a problem with it. Probably because they just have a problem with him in general.

Regardless, everything that comes out of his mouth is stupid, anyway. That becomes really annoying when you're hitting .201. So I think it's cool that he wants to be quiet now. It's a lot better than hearing his egotistical end of May predictions. The way he's going, he might not hit 7 HR's this year, much less by the end of May.

 

 

Nope. Probably because he knew he was supposed to be a leader, accepted that role publicly, and has failed both on the field and in the club house.

 

We're basically saying the same thing.

On the Lebatard show they said Jack just benched hanley for tonight.

 

Jack said he didn't like how Hanley was running yesterday. Good thing someone in the organization noticed. Hanley looks injured to me. But he says he's healthy. I don't believe him.

According to the Palm Beach Post he benched Hanley because he was late for the team meeting. The line about not running well was a decoy.

I have a feeling that the Hanley-McKeon face-off is going to get ugly by the end of the season.

There has been a lot of bitching about Hanley not becoming the leader he said he would. Why did anyone think that becoming a leader was as easy as just deciding to do it? That's rare just about anywhere in life, no matter how much skill or talent someone has. Hanley was too young and inexperienced to know that. Others should have known better.