I think it was a great idea to have quadrant sponsors but keep the name Marlins Park. I hope they are able to do this longterm.

 

 

I think it's horrible. I do see Pepsi name there. But I think it's horrible. But whatever, not my money.

you can't possibly feel this strongly in real life. what is horrible about it? it isn't all that important anyway.

I guess it won't be Pepsi Park...

I think it was a great idea to have quadrant sponsors but keep the name Marlins Park. I hope they are able to do this longterm.

 

 

I think it's horrible. I do see Pepsi name there. But I think it's horrible. But whatever, not my money.

I take it you dont drink pepsi?

must....drink...Pepsi....and....get....really....fat

If the Miccosukee are the sponsors the "red" section and Pepsi the "blue", shouldn't they have placed the signs the other way around? The way they have it when the roof is closed the miccosukee sign will be above the blue section and pepsi above the red.

Pepsi > Coke

 

Think it looks great. "Marlins Park" in the Center lit up at night... Awesome!

I don't like 'Marlins Park.' I hope they get a sponsor soon.

I don't like 'Marlins Park.' I hope they get a sponsor soon.

 

I was hoping for Barcadi Park, and thought that maybe they would make an announce around Barcadi´s 100th anniversary, but since that didnt happen and Pepsi is not going to be the sponsor either, might as well keep it as is.

Marlins Park? Leave it as is? Ain't gonna happen.

 

The Mutts got 20 million/year for 20 years -- 400 million. The guesses for the Marlins seemed to be in the 6-7 million/year range, that may have gone up as there was apparently a late entrant which is the reason for the delay of the last few months; they had been close to announcing a deal.

 

There is exactly zero chance the Marlins will walk away from 60-70-80-90 (or whatever the final number turns out to be) million over 10 years.

That mysterious black thing on the roof appears to be finished. looks like an exhaust stack. If you look at the 730pm exterior cam you can see a helicopter in the shot.

Actually if no corporate sponsor was secured the right thing to do would be to call the stadium Miami dade county municipal stadium since they bore the lion share of the cost

Actually if no corporate sponsor was secured the right thing to do would be to call the stadium Miami dade county municipal stadium since they bore the lion share of the cost

 

 

That has a crappy ring to it.

That may be even worse than Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

If "the right thing" to do would be to name it for who and what will bear the lion's share of the cost, we would have to call it "Tourist Park" or "Hotel Bed Tax Park" because that's who and what is going to pay everything (including all bond interest) other than the $155 million from the Marlins in the form of rent.

 

Be nice to tourists -- they will be paying for our ballpark for many years, whether they're fans or not.

I think it was a great idea to have quadrant sponsors but keep the name Marlins Park. I hope they are able to do this longterm.

 

 

I think it's horrible. I do see Pepsi name there. But I think it's horrible. But whatever, not my money.

you can't possibly feel this strongly in real life. what is horrible about it? it isn't all that important anyway.

 

Oh, I like Pepsi. Coke is better. Actually live 30 minutes from the birth place of Pepsi, New Bern, NC. What I meant was I was hoping the name of the PARK would be Pepsi BallPark, Pepsi Arena, Pepsi Stadium, or even Wal*Mart Stadium. Not a lame 'Marlins Park'. This ain't the 1930's, I actually like Sponsors as a name to a Arena or Stadium. Except 'Bank of America Stadium' in Charlotte for Carolina Panthers. Always like Ericsson Stadium better. Also I am so picky. I don't the name Bank that well. ''United States Stadium' sounds better. Even United States Bank sounds better. But Bank of America...lol, there's other banks in America.

Keep your shirt on, the name will not be Marlins Park. It's strictly temporary until they get their naming deal worked out.

 

How many times do I have to say that the Marlins, who managed to get the naming rights allocated strictly and unilaterally unto themselves are not going to walk away from 50 to 100 million over 10 years?

 

Right now, with the park 99%+ complete, they're concentrating on the final details. Which is not to say that they aren't paying any attention to the naming deal, that's obviously an ongoing subject of negotiations.

 

I hope the splash they've made is worth 8-10 million/year. We'll see, and soon.

Keep your shirt on, the name will not be Marlins Park. It's strictly temporary until they get their naming deal worked out.

 

How many times do I have to say that the Marlins, who managed to get the naming rights allocated strictly and unilaterally unto themselves are not going to walk away from 50 to 100 million over 10 years?

 

Right now, with the park 99%+ complete, they're concentrating on the final details. Which is not to say that they aren't paying any attention to the naming deal, that's obviously an ongoing subject of negotiations.

 

I hope the splash they've made is worth 8-10 million/year. We'll see, and soon.

 

 

Only problem so far is the fact that despite having the new stadium, the national media looks like it will be ignoring us once again (for the most part).

 

After the opening night, the early ESPN schedule still doesn't have the Marlins on a Sunday night game - home or away. And FOX Saturday is even worse, with no Marlins at all.

 

I get that the national media doesn't want to show us at home, I GET THAT, they hated seeing the empty seats as much we did. But why do they ignore us as the road team ? It has to go back to the notion and feeling that they (the media) still have never forgiven the Marlins for 2003, and preventing the Cubs from being in a World Series. Because I can't think of another thing that would have caused us to have this seeming prejudice against the Marlins.

 

Now how does this tie in with the delay in naming ? Well maybe the delay is the Marlins have hit a snag on getting someone to commit since it looks like the Marlins will not be getting as much TV exposure as they had hoped. So companies are looking at the Marlins demands and not wanting to pay as much as the Marlins are asking because they feel they won't be getting their money's worth.

 

Isn't this plausible ?

no one outside of Florida gives a sh*t about the Marlins. they don't warrant national coverage like a team like Philly/St Louis/LA/etc without a doubt does

no one outside of Florida gives a sh*t about the Marlins. they don't warrant national coverage like a team like Philly/St Louis/LA/etc without a doubt does

 

 

I give a sh*t about the Marlins, maybe two shits and I have never lived in Florida.

 

Keep your shirt on, the name will not be Marlins Park. It's strictly temporary until they get their naming deal worked out.

 

How many times do I have to say that the Marlins, who managed to get the naming rights allocated strictly and unilaterally unto themselves are not going to walk away from 50 to 100 million over 10 years?

 

Right now, with the park 99%+ complete, they're concentrating on the final details. Which is not to say that they aren't paying any attention to the naming deal, that's obviously an ongoing subject of negotiations.

 

I hope the splash they've made is worth 8-10 million/year. We'll see, and soon.

 

 

My shirt is on. I do find it funny that some people on here think naming it County Stadium or Municipal stadium sounds stupid considering many classic stadium have bore that name. Furthermore, money is fungible. To suggest otherwise is silly. Dollars may indeed be collected from tourists to fund the project but you can't ignore the opportunity cost of allocating those dollars to this enterprise. There's where we pay.

 

So what's the timetable for getting a metrorail/tri rail connection to the stadium? No money? Dang!

 

OK, proceed to bash this comment with all of your intimate knowledge of our local government restrictions on spending tourists tax dollars which may or may not be believable.

Keep your shirt on, the name will not be Marlins Park. It's strictly temporary until they get their naming deal worked out.

 

How many times do I have to say that the Marlins, who managed to get the naming rights allocated strictly and unilaterally unto themselves are not going to walk away from 50 to 100 million over 10 years?

 

Right now, with the park 99%+ complete, they're concentrating on the final details. Which is not to say that they aren't paying any attention to the naming deal, that's obviously an ongoing subject of negotiations.

 

I hope the splash they've made is worth 8-10 million/year. We'll see, and soon.

 

 

My shirt is on. I do find it funny that some people on here think naming it County Stadium or Municipal stadium sounds stupid considering many classic stadium have bore that name. Furthermore, money is fungible. To suggest otherwise is silly. Dollars may indeed be collected from tourists to fund the project but you can't ignore the opportunity cost of allocating those dollars to this enterprise. There's where we pay.

 

So what's the timetable for getting a metrorail/tri rail connection to the stadium? No money? Dang!

 

OK, proceed to bash this comment with all of your intimate knowledge of our local government restrictions on spending tourists tax dollars which may or may not be believable.

 

The new ballpark is not one of those old classic stadiums you mention. The new ballpark is classic in its design, yes, but it's not what you think of when you think of the old classic typical baseball parks.

 

Furthermore, the Marlins are promoting their brand right now considering there isnt a naming rights deal in place. The Marlins brand is valuable right now and the name is more valuable then Miami-dade county whatever.

Keep your shirt on, the name will not be Marlins Park. It's strictly temporary until they get their naming deal worked out.

 

How many times do I have to say that the Marlins, who managed to get the naming rights allocated strictly and unilaterally unto themselves are not going to walk away from 50 to 100 million over 10 years?

 

Right now, with the park 99%+ complete, they're concentrating on the final details. Which is not to say that they aren't paying any attention to the naming deal, that's obviously an ongoing subject of negotiations.

 

I hope the splash they've made is worth 8-10 million/year. We'll see, and soon.

 

 

My shirt is on. I do find it funny that some people on here think naming it County Stadium or Municipal stadium sounds stupid considering many classic stadium have bore that name. Furthermore, money is fungible. To suggest otherwise is silly. Dollars may indeed be collected from tourists to fund the project but you can't ignore the opportunity cost of allocating those dollars to this enterprise. There's where we pay.

 

So what's the timetable for getting a metrorail/tri rail connection to the stadium? No money? Dang!

 

OK, proceed to bash this comment with all of your intimate knowledge of our local government restrictions on spending tourists tax dollars which may or may not be believable.

Its like reading a post from a writer at the herald.

 

You probably are.

Isn't this plausible ?

 

Not really. They were close to announcing a deal when someone else entered the bidding and obviously upped it significantly. They wouldn't have started over for some minor amount of money.

 

It took them many months to get close to what they thought would be the deal, so it's not suprising that it's taking many more months to start from scratch with the new, higher bidder.

 

My shirt is on.

 

"Keep your shirt on" was directed at enterthemadness. My fault, I didn't make it clear.

 

but you can't ignore the opportunity cost of allocating those dollars to this enterprise. There's where we pay.

 

So what's the timetable for getting a metrorail/tri rail connection to the stadium? No money? Dang!

 

OK, proceed to bash this comment with all of your intimate knowledge of our local government restrictions on spending tourists tax dollars which may or may not be believable.

 

Alright, I think I'll do exactly that, even though my knowledge isn't "intimate," just comprehensive enough to totally demolish your groundless speculation.

 

Your entire idea of how the bed tax revenue may be spent is just flat-out wrong. The allocation is by state law. FS 125.0104.

 

The 1% Professional Sports Facilities Franchise Tax (of the total 6% "hotel bed tax") must be spent on, guess what? Debt service on professional sports facilities. "Debt service," of course, meaning payment of bond principal amounts and interest thereon.

 

So, contrary to your baseless claim (correctly compared by squall to some ridiculous BS the Herald might come up with,) not only can we ignore the opportunity cost of whatever, we are forced by statute to ignore it:

 

5) AUTHORIZED USES OF REVENUE.—

 

(a) All tax revenues received pursuant to this section by a county imposing the tourist development tax shall be used by that county for the following purposes only:

 

1. To acquire, construct, extend, enlarge, remodel, repair, improve, maintain, operate, or promote one or more publicly owned and operated convention centers, sports stadiums, sports arenas, coliseums, or auditoriums, or museums that are publicly owned and operated or owned and operated by not-for-profit organizations and open to the public, within the boundaries of the county or subcounty special taxing district in which the tax is levied. Tax revenues received pursuant to this section may also be used for promotion of zoological parks that are publicly owned and operated or owned and operated by not-for-profit organizations and open to the public. However, these purposes may be implemented through service contracts and leases with lessees with sufficient expertise or financial capability to operate such facilities; [This is where the 1% (of 6% total "bed taxes") Professional Sports Facilities Franchise Tax goes.]

 

2. [To promote and advertise tourism in the State of Florida] [This is where the 2% (of 6% total "bed taxes") Tourist Development Tax goes.]

 

3. [To fund convention bureaus, tourist bureaus, tourist information centers] [This is where the 3% (of 6% total "bed taxes") Convention Development Tax goes.]

 

4. [To finance beach park facilities or beach improvement, maintenance, renourishment, restoration, and erosion control] [This is some sort of after-thought, a catch-all for leftover money from the above.]

 

http://archive.flsen....html#0125.0104

 

Nothing in there about metro-rail or anything else.

 

So much for fungibility.

 

Is that believable enough for you?

 

:lol

And here's a little more on how bad we jab our tourists.

 

The 2% Tourist Development Tax was imposed in 1978.

 

The 3% Convention Development Tax was imposed in 1983.

 

The 1% Sports Franchise Tax was imposed in 1990.

 

That's 6%.

 

Obviously not enough:

 

The 2% Tourist Development Surtax on Sales of Food and Beverages in Hotels/Motels was imposed in 1990.

 

So, that makes 8%.

 

Like I said, be nice to tourists, they're paying through the nose for our fabulous park.

 

http://www.miamidade...tourist_pay.asp

Keep your shirt on, the name will not be Marlins Park. It's strictly temporary until they get their naming deal worked out.

 

How many times do I have to say that the Marlins, who managed to get the naming rights allocated strictly and unilaterally unto themselves are not going to walk away from 50 to 100 million over 10 years?

 

Right now, with the park 99%+ complete, they're concentrating on the final details. Which is not to say that they aren't paying any attention to the naming deal, that's obviously an ongoing subject of negotiations.

 

I hope the splash they've made is worth 8-10 million/year. We'll see, and soon.

 

 

My shirt is on. I do find it funny that some people on here think naming it County Stadium or Municipal stadium sounds stupid considering many classic stadium have bore that name. Furthermore, money is fungible. To suggest otherwise is silly. Dollars may indeed be collected from tourists to fund the project but you can't ignore the opportunity cost of allocating those dollars to this enterprise. There's where we pay.

 

So what's the timetable for getting a metrorail/tri rail connection to the stadium? No money? Dang!

 

OK, proceed to bash this comment with all of your intimate knowledge of our local government restrictions on spending tourists tax dollars which may or may not be believable.

 

Here's some intimate knowedge of our local government....

 

We live in a f***ing Banana Republic where when sh*t gets done right, it has had to been redone twice over before. To have this beautiful facility represent Miami to 29 other Major League Cities is a crowning achievement in and of itself and something everyone should take great pride in.

 

To turn something so beautiful and meaningful to thousands of people in and around Miami into a pissing contest on how the money allocated for it's construction could have been better spent is splitting hairs at this point.

 

It's built. Enjoy it for what it is.

 

Marlins Park is a beautiful woman with very delicate and exotic curves, yes the money spent on her fake tits and painted nails could have been better spent on your mortgage and car payments--- but at the end of the day you just want to f*** around and have fun.