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this is hilarious...

He is going to lose his tail this year. I wonder what his next step will be...no payroll to shed.

 

His next step will be...

 

completely wipe out the remainding fan base by trading Staton, Yelich and Fernandez within the next 3 years.

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this is hilarious...

He is going to lose his tail this year. I wonder what his next step will be...no payroll to shed.

 

His next step will be...

 

completely wipe out the remainding fan base by trading Staton, Yelich and Fernandez within the next 3 years.

But then they'll be some other super prospect for us to be excited about.

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Very smart move.

 

The average yield from food, liquor, merchandise and parking is more than average gate yield, based on full-price tickets. See post #21 on: http://forums.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/98176-marlins-revenue-and-operating-expenses-some-facts/

 

Giving away tickets may not attract the biggest spenders, but they're certainly better than nothing. Then again, they're in on a free ticket, so they might be even more inclined to spend on other stuff making them better than the average paid admission when it comes to bottom-line profit.

 

Butts in the seats. Name of the game. A seat with no butt in it can't buy a beer or a hot dog or a parking spot or a hat or anything else.

 

Hard to understand why "fans" would disparage something (or, for that matter, anything) that increases revenue above what it would otherwise have been.

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Very smart move.

 

The average yield from food, liquor, merchandise and parking is more than average gate yield, based on full-price tickets. See post #21 on: http://forums.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/98176-marlins-revenue-and-operating-expenses-some-facts/

 

Giving away tickets may not attract the biggest spenders, but they're certainly better than nothing. Then again, they're in on a free ticket, so they might be even more inclined to spend on other stuff making them better than the average paid admission when it comes to bottom-line profit.

 

Butts in the seats. Name of the game. A seat with no butt in it can't buy a beer or a hot dog or a parking spot or a hat or anything else.

 

Hard to understand why "fans" would disparage something (or, for that matter, anything) that increases revenue above what it would otherwise have been.

 

Because short term benefits become long term detriments. Like rebates, customers stop buying and wait for the giveaways. You will then possibly lose the regular paying customers,the season ticket holders etc, who wonder why they should pay while the guy sitting next to them got in for free.

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Do you think the fans that are left care about ticket prices? Woah, Groupon man! Awesome! I was displeased before with the state of the team and I wasn't going to show but now that it's a Groupon all is forgiven!

 

No. Cost is not the issue here. Cost was never the issue. We all know we can get cheap seats. That's not a big deal. A big deal is showing direction and intention to not run the franchise into the dirt.

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exactly - it's more promotion and trying to attract an audience on a whim .... not necessarily a bad idea, but shouldn't be in a long line of desperate moves for the opener

 

as far as free/discounted seats, it's not sustainable and doesn't draw revenue over time for the reasons mentioned above - people get used to the discounts and what typically happens is those who are actual fans will hold out on standard deals to wait for the super deals ....... i've personally had franchises offer me the opportunity to buy seats in any quantity anywhere in the stadium for any game at the discounted group ticket price, pretty much 50% off single game tickets .... so I bought a pair for the games I was planning on going to anyway

 

i've seen a few events offer fill the house free tickets and what they typically draw are not fans, but people looking for the event/scene ..... it's those who aren't planned out and just go and party ...... a lot of pre-drinking and then just wandering around the stadium already drunk being obnoxious with no real long term opportunity to convert them into a regular sale

 

a major league franchise gate depends so much on it's season ticket sales - both full season and packages ..... provide discounts for a commitment and draw that solid, long term, engaged fan who will then value some of the extras you can sell

 

however, this ownership group has pretty much killed their opportunity - just completely tone deaf

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Because short term benefits become long term detriments.

 

No, they don't. It's a promotion, buying a seat at a ballgame isn't like buying a car.

 

This is but one of many promotions they will do all year long. Probably next year, too. Fans in '15, if they're any good aren't going to expect the same deal they got in '13.

 

Butts in the seats. Simple as that. An empty seat can't buy anything. An occupied seat might.

 

Revenue. Revenue. Revenue. Don't know why anyone would object to more of it.

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Because short term benefits become long term detriments.

 

No, they don't. It's a promotion, buying a seat at a ballgame isn't like buying a car.

 

This is but one of many promotions they will do all year long. Probably next year, too. Fans in '15, if they're any good aren't going to expect the same deal they got in '13.

 

Butts in the seats. Simple as that. An empty seat can't buy anything. An occupied seat might.

 

Revenue. Revenue. Revenue. Don't know why anyone would object to more of it.

Why do you continue to pump up the pros and ignore the cons? Never mind; it's not worth it.

 

You lose ticket revenue from those who might have paid full price in the absence of the ticket price. As someone said earlier, you may upset people who were paying full price and then realize they could get a discount. You lower the perceived value of the product, and this is already a product whose public image is in the dumpster -- and it's the public image, subjective as it may be, that determine's willingness to pay money. And as you say "Revenue. Revenue. Revenue."

 

This deal may be a net positive from a dollars standpoint. But the protestation is over what an absolute joke the public image of this franchise has become such that they could even see any added value from offering discounted Opening Day tickets. It's embarrassing that they've gotten to this point, and many quite reasonably blame the incompetence of the management team for driving the franchise to where it stands today.

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Too many people looking backwards, not enough looking forward.

 

Yes, anyone can say it's a joke and make fun of it. Ha-ha-ha. Big fun. Only Loria has to deal with the cash coming in (or not coming in) and do anything and everything he can to maximize it.

 

And so they will. Lots of promotions, all year long -- this year and probably next year. It's a good thing. Unless, of course, you think it would be a good idea to have less revenue with which to pay players.

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