It's not entirely speculation, really. At the time, there were numerous rumors about the massive basket of prospects that the Marlins wanted from the Dodgers. Based on the way the deal fell apart, it seems like the Marlins shifted their attention away from the more developed prospects in LA (like Kemp) in favor of much younger, riskier talent like Maybin.

 

Maybin was highly touted because of his tools. He deserved to be ranked as a top prospect and it could not have been predicted at the time that he would have been a bust, but the fact that he had hardly played above high A ball before the Marlins acquired him makes him somewhat of a risky piece in the acquisition. He demonstrated the potential to be a great player through his tools, but he had not done much at that point to back it up.

 

If I remember correctly, we asked for Kershaw, Kemp, LaRoche, and Loney or Ethier. They were willing to part with any three excluding Kershaw, and the Marlins wanted either Kershaw plus two or all four excluding Kershaw... Or something like that. We probably would have been a playoff team for many years had they just found a happy medium and made a deal with LA.

If I remember correctly, we asked for Kershaw, Kemp, LaRoche, and Loney or Ethier. They were willing to part with any three excluding Kershaw, and the Marlins wanted either Kershaw plus two or all four excluding Kershaw... Or something like that. We probably would have been a playoff team for many years had they just found a happy medium and made a deal with LA.

 

We would have been better off, but Miller and Maybin were so highly touted that I think we have to be careful not to blame the Marlins too much here. It was more bad luck that they busted than bad judgement.

Don't forget that the Miggy trade is one of the worst in history. Odds are whatever we get for Stanton won't be THAT bad.

We would have been better off, but Miller and Maybin were so highly touted that I think we have to be careful not to blame the Marlins too much here. It was more bad luck that they busted than bad judgement.

Miller and Maybin were highly touted but also higher risk.

Miller should have been lower risk considering he was a college pitcher who played for a decent team at the time. I think Detroit messed up his mechanics with the promotion to the bigs so soon. Maybin, who knows. He was a HS talent, and that doesn't always pan out.

 

To this day there are a lot of people at Baseball America who aren't sure what went wrong with Jeremy Hermida. He had all of the talent in the world and he still flamed out very fast. Prospects are fickle things.

I hate high school prospects. Some of them are really high upside, but there's much more risk.

 

Are there any numbers on HS busts vs College busts

That sounds good. I hope he still feels the same way after the end of the year if the team doesn't meet his expectations. I don't think this team is as good as he thinks.

Actually a good read on the Marlins from Heyman.

I'm interested in knowing how is recent conversations have gone with Samson, Loria and the front office. Assuming he doesn't trust any direction they set, he probably needs reassurance and won't sign on for too long.

 

Obviously hoping it works out.

Well I know its just one measly interview on a random day in spring training but that's definitely the most positive and straightforward we've heard Stanton in over a year.

 

Most other interviews have been "eh yeah Im happy, I guess, maybe, sorta ehhh actually I don't wanna talk about it." Maybe they just caught him in a really good moment.

I'd be happy too if I signed for $6.5 mllion

Maybe to all of the above. Trying to sign him right after the debacle of 2012 would have been counter productive. And I can't blame him for not wanting to talk long term contract now. Trying to force something on him right now would also be counter productive. It would be like telling him that him and his reps are too stupid to know what is best for him. We know better, so shut up and sign on the dotted line. Better to let him take his time and just see how things transpire. He knows he's getting another hefty raise again next off season no matter what. The real question is whether or not he wants to stay here.

He'll go where the money is; the Marlins won't have it. They already blew their chance to sign him affordably.

Really cool Stanton Vs. Puig story on ESPN

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/hot?id=10628295

I think this is absolutely the last chance that the Marlins have to prove to Stanton that they are moving in the right direction. If they can some how be competitive this year and start to push through on expectations and Loria mans up and actually decides to invest some real money into this team, then I think there is a good chance Stanton sticks around for years to come.

 

Now another 100-loss season and another fire sale and we can start seeing Stanton jerseys going on deep sale before too long.

If we have another 100 loss season, Stanton won't have a choice cause he'll be the first one shipped out to initiate the next fire sale.

Well they can move Stanton, but yeah other than that there isn't a lot to trade.

They could sell of Salty, I guess.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-marlins/marlins-blog/sfl-miami-marlins-stanton-extension-blog-20140331,0,7994374.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+marlinsblog+%28Florida+Marlins+%7C+Sun-Sentinel+Blogs%29

 

Juan Rodriguez indicates that if the Marlins offered a contract along 8 years/146 mill should be about the right number to sign Stanton but if they wait to the off-season it will likely be rejected by Stanton

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-marlins/marlins-blog/sfl-miami-marlins-stanton-extension-blog-20140331,0,7994374.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed: marlinsblog (Florida Marlins | Sun-Sentinel Blogs)

 

Juan Rodriguez indicates that if the Marlins offered a contract along 8 years/146 mill should be about the right number to sign Stanton but if they wait to the off-season it will likely be rejected by Stanton

 

I just think a resolution has to come soon, because Jose and Yelich, honestly, should get extended as early as next winter if Miami is serious about keeping a home grown core.

Those are more than fair offers to extend him...

I would be surprised if this team offered him Mike Trout money. I think that's high anyway.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-marlins/marlins-blog/sfl-miami-marlins-stanton-extension-blog-20140331,0,7994374.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed: marlinsblog (Florida Marlins | Sun-Sentinel Blogs)

 

Juan Rodriguez indicates that if the Marlins offered a contract along 8 years/146 mill should be about the right number to sign Stanton but if they wait to the off-season it will likely be rejected by Stanton

Stanton is not going to sign a contract for that "low" amount to wipe out all his free agency years and not give a second opportunity at a large mega contract, which is the whole point. Trout will be a free agent in his prime. This cannot be emphasized enough. The Marlins would have to step up to a $175-200 mil deal for 8 years (assuming he is awesome and what we all expect).

 

A much more realistic scenario if this is going to happen (which I think not and they trade him) is a 4-5 year extension at a lot of money, $20 million annual range. This allows him to be a free agent in prime (29-30 years old) to get an insane deal, and that kind of money sets him up for life and then some. There is still something to be said about a player 3 full years away from free agency where they'd sacrifice a few free agency years even if the Marlins have overwhelmingly blown it. That's where the focus needs to be with Stanton. Get 2-3 free agency years and feel happy you get those because you neglected to sign him 2012-2013 like a bunch of idiots.