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I'd give 15 years the benefit of "going on two decades." When it comes to rounding numbers, 5 goes up.

 

Either way, I agree with you a bit - he does deserve at least 50% of what he's gotten. Not all of it, like Spike says, but not "little" like you say. Happy medium, right in the middle.

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The thing is, he has been an awful owner across two franchises. He should never have been given an opportunity to own another team after his debacle in Montreal, and the fact that it was always pretty evident that he simply didnt have the finances to be an MLB owner. He has made a career off of pocketing revenue sharing money and cooking the books to show operating losses that werent legitimate. He rushed into an awful TV deal so he could shove money in his pocket NOW instead of waiting like the league told him to do. And he is overly meddlesome when it comes to the day to day operations. He has alienated the fanbase in south Florida and for the Marlins to ever be successful, he has to be removed.

 

You dont earn a reputation as the worst owner in the game from your own teams fanbase, other teams fanbases, other owners, the media, and the league itself by accident. He has worked hard to earn that moniker.

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Yeah I gotta say Spike is right on this one. Loria deserves all the sh*t he's gotten over the years. Just ask Expos fans...oh wait they don't exist anymore.

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Yeah I gotta say Spike is right on this one. Loria deserves all the sh*t he's gotten over the years. Just ask Expos fans...oh wait they don't exist anymore.

 

C’est des conneries!

 

We have one here I think.

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What? Pants, not shoes.

 

:lol

 

The problem is that both you and Churchill were and are right.

 

I didn't want to picture you naked,

 

And at your advanced age it takes longer to put on those Velcro shoes.

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Huizenga got south Florida a baseball team and a hockey team.

 

oh yeah, and then he won a World Series for Florida and got to a Stanley Cup finals within 5 years.

 

He also seemed to care a great deal about the Dolphins.

 

Wayne was not a bad owner.

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The damage that Wayne did here is pretty significant despite whatever positives he did bring.

 

He brought the franchise here and then gave it a World Series. You can even argue the '98 fire sale also brought us another championship because it built the '03 team. So I couldn't disagree more.

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He brought the franchise here and then gave it a World Series. You can even argue the '98 fire sale also brought us another championship because it built the '03 team. So I couldn't disagree more.

 

It took a lot more than just the 98 fire sale for 03 to happen but I can see where ur headed with that point and its fine. I just really wish he'd done more to try and maintain that 97 team. Buying all that and then selling it before the confetti had been cleaned off the streets of Miami hurt big time. At least Loria sells when things are bad. Wayne absolutely didn't care to win another championship. As bad as Loria is I see him more intent on winning than Blockbuster Wayne.

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The damage that Wayne did here is pretty significant despite whatever positives he did bring.

 

This- and he was responsible for that crappy lease at dolphin stadium.....

 

 

And the panthers leaving Miami for sunrise.

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Marlins have had 3 owners, yeah?

Huizenga, Henry, Loria.

 

Yeah, I'd go with Huizenga as best.

 

If put Lora over Henry, and as influential as Huizenga puttin a team here was, making sure they stayed here in my opinion is just as important. Maybe even more. If it failed the first time I don't think we'd get another chance.

 

What Wayne did killed attendance for the franchise going on 16 years. Even in 2003 when we were on out way to the World Series our attendance sucked because "they are just going to break up the team anyway" and when we couldn't resign Pudge because of that ridiculous lease Wayne signed with himself - "look, they are doing it again!"

 

Even after we went out and got a perrenial AL MVP contender in Delgado it was "he's gone next year anyway, so what" and fans still didn't care.

 

Huizenga may have done a lot for the Marlins, but his lasting legacy is what he did in 1998 and the teams paid for it ever since. 2006 was a necessity. 1998 was anger over not turning enough of a profit.

 

While 1998 brought my favorite player here, and really made me a fan of baseball- the effects of that season on the reputation of the franchise can't be ignored.

 

Shoot- even some reporters lump that in with Lorias legacy, and he was busy running the Expos into DC.

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The city and county have alot more to do with preserving the Marlins in Miami than Jeffrey Loria. About the only thing he contributed were idle threats to relocate the team.

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