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Marlins expected to bump payroll to $75MM for 2015

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That was me fucker. And it was more of a suggestion for if it comes to that and was contingent on getting a different yet contributing bat for LF.

 

Under no circumstance do you move your potential star player and mess with his head at a relative new position. He hasn't played 1Bin years

Under no circumstance do you move your potential star player and mess with his head at a relative new position. He hasn't played 1Bin years

 

When Marisnick was a possibility in the future outfield, I wanted to move Yelich to first, but now that there's no Marisnick, keep Yelich in left, is what I say.

I've always said and stand by the idea that Stanton will eventually become a 1st baseman to mitigate the chance of injury. Whatever team we trade him to will see him running full speed in the outfield and diving for baseballs thinking to themselves "Why did we just trade top players/prospects, give a $200+ million contract to a guy who has an injury history and throw him out to a position where he could very easily get hurt?"

 

Yes, Stanton is an above average right fielder, but there's little doubt in my mind in four years he'll be a full time 1st baseman. Yelich's numbers don't match the production you hope from a 1st baseman (but then again, neither do Garrett Jones' this year).

I wanted Stanton at 1b too at the beginning of the year just because he was always so damn injured. Not too sure now but might be willing to because there aren't many 1b out there that we could use and outfielders are always easier to find

 

I would be completely ok with him at first

I think you guys are a little cavalier even conceptually thinking of moving Yelich or Stanton out of the OF, just because of Marisnick while he was here or getting some whatever OF because that guy is better than a 1B option. It's not like they are unproven guys now, or bad defensively, and haven't been anywhere else for 4-5 years of pro ball. This needed to be a decision 2-3 years ago, or something like Marisnick going all Kris Bryant in the minors to start the year to force a situation. now it's pretty nuts

 

Leave them alone, don't move them.

 

You move McGehee to 1B if you can get a better 3B. That's the sort of positional option they have.

I would totally be in on Pablo Sandoval. Makes a lot more sense than Victor Martinez, he would give the FO a lot of flexibility moving into next season...

I would totally be in on Pablo Sandoval. Makes a lot more sense than Victor Martinez, he would give the FO a lot of flexibility moving into next season...

 

And Sandoval isn't too bad of a defender, either.

I think Heaney will be in the rotation come September whether someone gets hurt or Hand becomes less effective. I think he is ready now. Once the Zephyrs season ends he should be up here. Desclafani as well.

Regarding Victor Martinez, he makes sense considering that this team only has a 2-year window to compete before Stanton is gone and they have to start over.

 

The fact that he has no position and is aging makes a 2-year deal possible as opposed to other names mentioned who make no sense and are going to get big contracts.

 

Lots of guys with no position and a good bat move over to 1B to extend their careers.

 

Marlins Park would have little to no effect on Martinez's bat. He's a rarity in today's game; a guy with power who doesn't strikeout. He's such a good hitter that his floor is quite good.

 

As for injury risk/risk in general, the alternatives being discussed are a potentially fat Pablo Sandoval and/or pitchers on the wrong side of 30 to longer-term contracts. There is a risk with any free agent you sign.

 

And we definitely need a 1B about as much as we need middle infield help, as well. Expecting the trio of AAAA guys to be anything more than Garrett Jones is delusional.

I'm surprised you don't think Martinez will get, at a minimum, a 3 year deal from an AL team...

 

He's going to get a 2 year deal for id say about 20 million. Id be in on that.

He's going to get a 2 year deal for id say about 20 million. Id be in on that.

 

Aaaaaaaabsolutely not.

 

He will get 3-years, $45M at a MINIMUM.

Aaaaaaaabsolutely not.

 

He will get 3-years, $45M at a MINIMUM.

 

Actually you are right, I just went through the last few years comparable free agents and he would get around 2 years 26 or so million.

I'm surprised you don't think Martinez will get, at a minimum, a 3 year deal from an AL team...

 

He might. However, he might not because teams are going away from the idea of a traditional DH. I highly doubt he gets 3/45.

Actually you are right, I just went through the last few years comparable free agents and he would get around 2 years 26 or so million.

 

If we can get V-Mart for 2/26 I'm all in.

 

NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

If we can get V-Mart for 2/26 I'm all in.

 

NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

 

The only comparable player to Martinez is David Ortiz and Ortiz hasn't had a contract longer than two years. You could also make a case that Ortiz keeps getting his contracts because he is, arguably, the face of that (Red Sox) franchise. The Red Sox have actually been reluctant to give him the money and have been going year-to-year with him.

 

A 36-year-old DH isn't getting 3/45.

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