canada-marlin24 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Apparently let go along with the rest of the Nationals staff. Marlins should definitely go after him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Yes a change in pitching coach would be welcomed here. The rest of the coaching staff I think is fine, with several I think being stand outs. (Hill, Paglaruliolo/Menechino, Wallach). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Does he come come with a Greg? Are the Madduxes buy-one-get-one-free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Does he come come with a Greg? Are the Madduxes buy-one-get-one-free? [ATTACH]1632._xfImport[/ATTACH] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanc Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Go get him now!!!!!! Please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 [ATTACH]1632[/ATTACH] I thought Moose was Mussina's nickname. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Does he come come with a Greg? Are the Madduxes buy-one-get-one-free? Why'd you come twice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYmarlins Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I definitely think a change in pitching coach is needed. Maddux would be great. I would also prefer a better bench coach. Fredi Gonzalez did well as 3B coach and hopefully comes back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_gmac Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Why'd you come twice? VIRGIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THRILLHO Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Jim Hickey is also on the open market. I’d be happy with either of those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish20 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Pitching coach doesnt matter with the same pitchers we have. This should be like 15th on the priority list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Yes a change in pitching coach would be welcomed here. The rest of the coaching staff I think is fine, with several I think being stand outs. (Hill, Paglaruliolo/Menechino, Wallach). I agree. Mike Hill is amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THRILLHO Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Pitching coach doesnt matter with the same pitchers we have. This should be like 15th on the priority list. Don’t discount either. They’re both important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish20 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Don’t discount either. They’re both important. I think a pitching coach is as unimportant as it gets and there is such a small difference in major league pitching coaches. Look at Leo Mazzone the former Braves pitching coach. He had this mythical reputation when he was the braves pitching coach and then he went to the Orioles and was fired after 2 years with another year still on his contract. Im not saying any person can be a major league pitching coaches, but i just dont think there is much of a difference between the best and worst pitching coach in the majors. It is almost exclusively due to the talent they are given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THRILLHO Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I think a pitching coach is as unimportant as it gets and there is such a small difference in major league pitching coaches. Look at Leo Mazzone the former Braves pitching coach. He had this mythical reputation when he was the braves pitching coach and then he went to the Orioles and was fired after 2 years with another year still on his contract. Im not saying any person can be a major league pitching coaches, but i just dont think there is much of a difference between the best and worst pitching coach in the majors. It is almost exclusively due to the talent they are given. I agree with you about Mazzone. But I don’t think they are insignificant. Agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish20 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I agree with you about Mazzone. But I don’t think they are insignificant. Agree to disagree. Im not saying they are insignificant, just that the difference between the best and worst pitching coach isnt much. But its not really worth disagreeing about lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovertical Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 i'm also in the camp that the coaches don't usually make much difference. There are a few exceptions - I'd totally argue for Perry Hill (who you just watch, Jeter will get rid of) being a defensive whiz in terms of coaching. By and large though, it's 98% talent, with the rest being a mixture of luck, coaching, and not being associated with Mike Hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THRILLHO Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Like fish20 said it’s not a topic worth getting riled up about. It doesn’t take a ton of time and money to get a person in who may add value. Here’s the Rays pitchers discussing Hickeys departure. The staff had spoken highly of him over the years http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/rays/rays-pitchers-react-to-the-departure-of-jim-hickey/2339756 Stanton didn’t seem to enjoy working with Bonds. That probably had no effect on him at all because he’s a stud. But it doesn’t hurt to have coaches that players enjoy working with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada-marlin24 Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 Well Maddux about to join the Cardinals and looks like Nieves is coming back. Great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokersgoon Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Nieves isn’t going anywhere. Expect the same staff minus buddy now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Nieves isn’t going anywhere. Expect the same staff minus buddy now. and Urgelles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish20 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Well Maddux about to join the Cardinals and looks like Nieves is coming back. Great. As if the pitching staff sucked because of Nieves and not a complete and utter lack of talent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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