August 1, 20233 yr 11 minutes ago, Valid said: Did we really get pitching depth, though? I can't envision a scenario where Weathers makes any sort of impact this season. Again, we got guys on innings limits, this is an extra arm.
August 1, 20233 yr 9 minutes ago, marlins_09 said: Why the hell did we give up Khalil Watson for a bag of Doritos?? Cuz he's an asshole.
August 1, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, Michael said: Burger around through 2028, same with Weathers I believe who will be a fix-up by Mel this offseason, and Bell is an easy upgrade overall to Cooper, probably on both sides of the ball. Bell is definitely not an upgrade over Cooper defensively. Bell is terrible at first base. Cooper was actually not bad. As far as Bell's bat, we'll see. I understand he has definitely been superior to Cooper in the past, but he really hasn't been very good at all the last two years.
August 1, 20233 yr Just now, Valid said: We got a little better this season. Adding Burger's power is significant, even if he doesn't do much else. Swapping Cooper for Bell is at best a slight upgrade and at worst a wash. As much as I trust our FO with pitchers, Weathers has been terrible for quite some time now. But maybe they think they can work with him? I don't know. Keep in mind that we also got Robertson. He definitely counts even if we acquired him a few days before the deadline. So the Marlins have definitely improved for 2023. Just not sure we've improved enough to make a legitimate run. The Robertson deal I’m with you on. Was much needed and I’m not getting bent out of shape with rookie ballers. I’m just not on board with Bell and Cooper being a clean swap. Coop gets beat up because he was counted on to hit in the middle of the order. He’s certainly not that type of bat. But he still has value as a platoon option at 1B. Kim tried doing too much convincing herself going after Weathers in “replenishing the system” rather than making significant impacts to the major league roster
August 1, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, pollythewog said: I love the weathers trade Me too. I love that he is younger than Eder. If Mel can fix him, we pretty much keep our young SP depth.
August 1, 20233 yr Just now, SilverBullet said: Cuz he's an asshole. Then don’t sell me that they’re going to extend Jazz.
August 1, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, Valid said: Bell is definitely not an upgrade over Cooper defensively. Bell is terrible at first base. Cooper was actually not bad. As far as Bell's bat, we'll see. I understand he has definitely been superior to Cooper in the past, but he really hasn't been very good at all the last two years. Cooper legitimately whiffed on a pickoff attempt last night that would have ended the inning.
August 1, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, SilverBullet said: Again, we got guys on innings limits, this is an extra arm. I understand that, but if Weathers is getting any serious run this season, we're in trouble. I'm sure the Marlins can work with him during the offseason, but I have a hard time imagine him suddenly finding himself in the back half of 2023. We'll see.
August 1, 20233 yr Just now, Michael said: Cooper legitimately whiffed on a pickoff attempt last night that would have ended the inning. I mean that's one play. I think you're severely underestimating just how bad Bell is defensively.
August 1, 20233 yr 3 minutes ago, Michael said: LOL This is sad actually. Segura looked bothered that he was doing poorly here and then looked happier in his better last few weeks and now this. Tip of the cap to him.
August 1, 20233 yr Just now, SilverBullet said: This is sad actually. Segura looked bothered that he was doing poorly here and then looked happier in his better last few weeks and now this. Tip of the cap to him. You randomly wear a hat while at home?
August 1, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, Valid said: I understand that, but if Weathers is getting any serious run this season, we're in trouble. I'm sure the Marlins can work with him during the offseason, but I have a hard time imagine him suddenly finding himself in the back half of 2023. We'll see. For now he replaces Cabrera and then he may have to replace Garrett or Luzardo later on. I'm not saying he's amazing I'm saying there's a need for him now.
August 1, 20233 yr Just now, SonOfJack said: You randomly wear a hat while at home? Maybe he's light sensitive.
August 1, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, SonOfJack said: You randomly wear a hat while at home? Yes actually especially during the games. I don't think that's random.
August 1, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, Valid said: I mean that's one play. I think you're severely underestimating just how bad Bell is defensively. Also cost us a couple outs over the years by having his wrong foot on the bag and being unable to stretch to his full-ass 6'-6" frame. Then again that would have ended his season.
August 1, 20233 yr Just now, SilverBullet said: For now he replaces Cabrera and then he may have to replace Garrett or Luzardo later on. I'm not saying he's amazing I'm saying there's a need for him now. Ryan Weathers is terrible at baseball. He’s legitimately never been good. This is not a Jesus Luzardo situation. At the very best, they turn him into a reliever and it’s a Brad Hand situation. But literally the only thing this team DOESNT need is a lefty reliever lol
August 1, 20233 yr Just now, SilverBullet said: For now he replaces Cabrera and then he may have to replace Garrett or Luzardo later on. I'm not saying he's amazing I'm saying there's a need for him now. Not gonna lie: I think I'd rather roll the dice with Cabrera than Weathers. I guess Weathers has better control but we'll see. Hopefully you're right.
August 1, 20233 yr Essentially, we traded Khalil Watson, Jake Eder and Sean Reynolds to fix our FA mistake at 3B by getting Adam Duvall of 3B and marginally worse at 1B. Edited August 1, 20233 yr by marlins_09
August 1, 20233 yr Just now, Valid said: Not gonna lie: I think I'd rather roll the dice with Cabrera than Weathers. I guess Weathers has better control but we'll see. Hopefully you're right. I could be wrong, I'll admit that. I'm saying I see the purpose for this move today. Also, it was kinda just what can we get for Segura and Cooper cuz Kim was done with them so that's part of it too. Whatever we got we would have to make it work.
August 1, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, Michael said: Gonna be awesome when Weathers wins Cy Young next year. Or when we trade him for a bat and then everyone is mad that we traded the great HOFer Ryan Weathers.
August 1, 20233 yr Author Just now, marlins_09 said: Essentially, we traded Khalil Watson, Jake Eder and Sean Reynolds to fix our FA mistake at 3B by getting Adam Duvall of 3B and marginally worse at 1B. Most of the board was pretty positive on the segura signing. It’s a shame it was such a bust and a real bummer they had to give up a prospect to shed his salary
August 1, 20233 yr Just now, SilverBullet said: Or when we trade him for a bat and then everyone is mad that we traded the great HOFer Ryan Weathers. You mean like a legitimate platoon 1B?
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