Big_Rob

Can we go after Matt LeCroy too? We need someone experienced at sucking behing the plate too.

Next year is gonna suck.

I recall Forbes finding that the Marlins are the most profitable MLB team (before looking at TV network revenues.) Reading reports for years and years of their owners and MLB owners stating the opposite didn't leave you suspicious enough to check Forbes' findings? If you did, you had found it was for one single year - the year in which they dropped payroll dramatically. Well since profit is equal to total revenue minus total cost, that's pretty obvious. :banghead I'm just saying that there was enough money to pay Miggy to stay, and also enough money to make a more sizable contribution towards a stadium. Yet you needed Forbes to tell you? Oh, wait, you didn't even look at Forbes. You heard something about it from somewhere and decided the Marlins have been, are and always be a profitable franchise because of one singular report from one singular source in the entire span of the franchise. Makes perfect sense. Who pissed in your Wheaties this morning? I did read the Forbes report, I was the first to link it to this board. I said nothing regarding the Marlins being profitable long term, kinda hard to do with horrible attendance and no stadium revenues. Is there something personal that you want to get off of your chest? I'd like to hear it.

I recall Forbes finding that the Marlins are the most profitable MLB team (before looking at TV network revenues.) Reading reports for years and years of their owners and MLB owners stating the opposite didn't leave you suspicious enough to check Forbes' findings? If you did, you had found it was for one single year - the year in which they dropped payroll dramatically. Well since profit is equal to total revenue minus total cost, that's pretty obvious. :banghead I'm just saying that there was enough money to pay Miggy to stay, and also enough money to make a more sizable contribution towards a stadium.

Would like for us to pass on Barfield just because I know we will likely overspend by giving up either Gregg or multiple prospects. Would much rather have Ronny Cedeno (Cubs). Something like Kevin Gregg for Ronny Cedeno and Billy Petrick can work out well for both teams IMO The Ronny Cedeno who gets pushed backward when he makes contact with a MLB fastball? No thanks.

I think they'd take De Aza and Olivo for him I doubt it, LA's outfield is packed, and Olivo sucks.

man im gonna miss those miguel olivo 9th inning homers.. cmon guys with less strikouts u know that hes a pretty good catcher with the bat Unfortunately, it looked like he was playing defense with a bat instead of a glove. I was gonna go frying pan for a glove...

A friend of mine just finished an econometric analysis of the public good produced by top tier sports teams (MLB, NBA, NFL) and concluded that a pro sports franchise hurts the local economy. I'll try to get him to put the paper up on another site and link it here later. I recall Forbes finding that the Marlins are the most profitable MLB team (before looking at TV network revenues.) I think Loria is just trying to play hardball until some idiotic group of legislators agrees to give him a stadium. He obviously has resources that he chooses not to use for the stadium issue if he indeed gave Yale $20M. As far as Vegas goes, does anybody know how their attendance looks with the AAA club? edit: They drew 5,162/game last year with a 9,334 seat capacity (~55%) And how can MLB chastise a club for wanting to move to Vegas even though a AAA club has been there for years? I don't really see the issue other than the fact that opposing teams would show up hammered half the time.

Eric- you are killing yourself throughout this thread. How accurate do you really expect to be able to project a guy's minor league stats into MLB reality when he has a total of six games above A ball? As for "he will at least catch balls," I saw him play in the AFL and he runs a skinny post to just about every ball. He will be thrown out there, and he will struggle, because he has 'a total of six games above A ball." His primary qualification is that he looks like he should be good. I am inherently suspicious of "can't miss" prospects that have not played much, and have yet to show the earmarks of a major league hitter. Funny thing is, once he's on the team I might be in a position of liking what I see and have to read a million "ZOMG he sucks!" threads because he didn't walk on water right away. HE'S GOT AN .884 OPS IN HIS MiLB CAREER. HE HAS PRODUCED. THIS ISN'T THE PRODUCT OF ALL HYPE. HE PRODUCED MUCH MORE SO THAN HANLEY EVER DID IN THE MINORS! Well said. No one seems to remember that Hanley was all "tools" and no stats. Whereas the illustrious Yusmerio Petit was all stats and no tools. It's not realistic to think Maybin, much less anyone, will produce anything even close to what Hanley did his rookie year (and beyond). But Maybin DOES have all the "tools" and he has the minor league stats that are very impressive. Unless he looks completely lost in ST, there's no reason he shouldn't be thrown out there. He doesn't have to be the savior to this lineup (yet)...so throw him to the wolves. He'll be fine. We finally have the CF that most people here have been dying for. I don't see the logic in taking a toolsy kid who isn't ready and wasting a year of his MLB time. I agree that he has all the tools you could possibly want, but if they wait on him he will be that impact player and be cheap at the same time. Otherwise he will end up getting traded while coming into his prime like Miggy. (ZERO comparison to Miggy other than the fact that he's awesome and "unaffordable")

Anyone notice that Jose Capellan got Rule V'd? I had no idea that there were two of them.

Are the Jays planning to throw in an under shirt with a little tuft of simulated chest hair that sticks out of the collar for added throw-backiness?

Eric- you are killing yourself throughout this thread. How accurate do you really expect to be able to project a guy's minor league stats into MLB reality when he has a total of six games above A ball? As for "he will at least catch balls," I saw him play in the AFL and he runs a skinny post to just about every ball. He will be thrown out there, and he will struggle, because he has 'a total of six games above A ball." His primary qualification is that he looks like he should be good. I am inherently suspicious of "can't miss" prospects that have not played much, and have yet to show the earmarks of a major league hitter. Funny thing is, once he's on the team I might be in a position of liking what I see and have to read a million "ZOMG he sucks!" threads because he didn't walk on water right away. :thumbup

Dude walked at 13.4% clip in the minors.... Did you just invent a stat? The BB/PA%? His 2006 MLE OPS was .600, I can't find a 2007 figure yet, but looking at what he did and where he played it would likely be about .725. As for comparison to Reggie, Maybin may actually put something together, he is young and he will at least catch balls. Eric- you are killing yourself throughout this thread. How accurate do you really expect to be able to project a guy's minor league stats into MLB reality when he has a total of six games above A ball? As for "he will at least catch balls," I saw him play in the AFL and he runs a skinny post to just about every ball.

Sounds like a great attitude.

Miller and Maybin are reguarly raved about, but it is disappointing that the Marlins traded two guys with star credentials for this combo. I could see Miggy and someone else for this combo, but not Miggy and D-Train. I give this trade a hearty :thumbdown .

Under, Hanley and Uggla most likely. They are the most heralded guys now.

Miller looks like Kool-aid 2.0. Nestor could make the pen.

Hu still has some progress to make, but he has potential. I can see Cabs or Uggla going to the Dodgers, but I'm not sure if Hu is worth targeting at this point. Cabs is a much bigger ticket than that, especially if a contract extension is worked out as a condition of the deal. Also I'd rather have Uggla at 2nd than Hu. I could see Cabs and Uggla to LA for pretty much everybody LA has. Martin, LaRoche, Loney, Ethier, even Hu and Pierre if you are so inclined.

Ernie Young, DH 2007: Hit .214 with 13 homers and 42 RBIs for Triple-A Charlotte. At 38 and having just finished his 18th pro season since being drafted in the 10th round of 1990 by Oakland, Young is the active career Minor League leader in homers (319) and RBIs (1,136). While his batting average is not what it once was, he provides a great deal of leadership for the players around him and while a coaching career is likely not far off in his future, it would be nice if he could stick around and pursue 400 homers as long as he wants to. This guy is a DH? For a professional team? And he intrigues you?

Mark Reynolds

Last two starts combined: 9 IP, 1 H, 1 BB, 0 R, 8 K Looking really good!

Just links to the homepage- where's the video?

Nolasco had a nice outing today against Team USA (pretty solid lineup): 5 IP, 1 H, 0 BB, 4 K, 0 R. 54 pitches, 32 strikes. Only thing I noticed was a lot of fly ball outs (half infield pop-ups.) 10 FO/1 GO. AFL totals: 16.2 IP, 14 H, 3 BB, 14 K, 3.78 ERA, 1.02 WHIP, .229 BAA.

Paul Byrd is one guy I would have never guessed was on any performance enhancers. He isn't any kind of flame-thrower or big ripped studly looking guy. I watched him quite a bit after the Angels brought him down here and he was unimpressive. I know HGH just became a banned substance by MLB, but wasn't it illegal to use it without a prescription according to local and/or national laws prior to becoming banned? If he had a legitimate reason to be using it and had a prescription for it there should be no issue. I really doubt he was using anything to get an edge.

I'm into the analysis of the theories and all that, but who has the time to get really in depth on that stuff unless you're getting paid to do so... not me.