Alexdw85

My hope is that baseball comes under enough pressure and they put in a salary floor. In my opinion, that will be the move that finally pushes Loria out.

The Marlins are going to do the most short-sighted, idiotic thing they can do. In this situation they are going to surround Stanton with nothing and he will have a down year destroying his trade value. They will offer a contract at some point that Stanton would be insane to accept. He will get moved for some B level prospects some point after because he will have a depressed value. He will go on to have a great career. Its kind of like the whole firesale thing to begin with. In Loria's short sighted view of making money, he missed the longer term benefit off not poisoning the fanbase and destroying the value of the team. Loria will hold onto the team for a couple of years and sell it for far less than he could have got if he had just kept it somewhat intact. He will wait for a few years when the team is still awful, the attendance is averaging below 5k a game, the tv ratings are terrible, the merchandise sales have plummeted to sell so he doesnt have to share in the sale price. The team's value will be rock bottom and then he will sell because thats the kind of businessman he is: stupid.

Youd have to be insane to sign a long term deal here if youre Stanton or anyone. Why would anyone want to play for this organization that trades away everyone before their contract expires? Why put your family through this type of sh*t of getting up and moving around on the whims of some rat weasel art owner?

Id take samson and loria being replaced. with the stadium and all i think its fair to assume theyd make a good profit from what they got the team for.

Ive been pretty anti-Beinfest/Hill but if Loria was involved with the Bell and Buck signings like they say he is, then I have trouble faulting them for his stupidity. I hope if they bring someone in, it will be someone who has the sway to get Loria to butt out of baseball decisions since hes pretty terrible at that.

Rangers arent being dumb. They dont like JJ, and apparently neither do alot of other teams.

Gaby is useless so whatever. I like the draft pick, but this FO has been atrocious drafting players so I guess Ill wait to pass judgment.

Its looked to me all year that JJ is no longer an ace as it seems hes lost his fastball. It looks like some scouts for other teams feel the same way. That being said, if we arent prying away a few top prospects for him, he still has value to us and shouldnt be traded. Let him chew up innings for us while we actually develop our younger guys in the minors. He might even be able to regain some form and be a Buerhle type pitcher.

buck's only homer of the season when we were already up 6-2. asshole. He hit one earlier in the year. Its his second. But this puts him on normal HR track for himself unlike the entire middle of our order. What? I misread what he said. I thought he said Buck hit a homer earlier and seeing as though Im following online, I thought he hit another

buck's only homer of the season when we were already up 6-2. asshole. Sorry misread ur post.

they should be moving on now. if he comes, great but i think albert is getting cold feet.

well its obviously not "done" and the more it drags on, the less good I feel.

Gruden to the Hurricanes done?

We don't need a first baseman. We have a first baseman. We, on the other hand, do not have a #2 starter, and could use an upgrade on #5. agree but its hard not to get excited for albert pujols if they sign him

definitely how the marlins should play it - press for an answer and let them know that as much as you'd love to make the deal if they aren't willing to sign they will have to pursue other interests and there is no guarantee that those terms would ever be back on the table the cardinals have every right to counter and have earned the position at the table for last look - this is their look agree. if they dont have an answer by tonight, start moving on.

i think hanley hasnt asked them for a trade, but i also think hes leaking the info to the media to start drama. theres no contradiction there. i think hes handling this like a baby by leaking stuff to the media but not telling the marlins about it. the guy acts like a baby so why should this be any different?

You cant prove the opposite either other than to arbitrarily say that the unnamed sources saying Hanley is perfectly happy are somehow more reliable than the unnamed sources saying he isnt. If the media makes sh*t up all the time, then cant the side claiming everythings fine be making it up too? Im looking at past behavior and the other info leaked throughout the offseason. it seems to make sense given hanleys propensity to be a baby.

#Marlins official just told me Hanley Ramirez has NOT asked to be traded -Capozzi sure, but this info isnt coming from nowhere. it all fits with his history of being a baby so i dont find it that hard to believe. hes handling it in a juvenile matter by leaking it to the media. So you say they information isn't coming from anywhere but in the same post you say hes leaking it on purpose. That makes no logical sense. ? Im saying the media isnt making it up and Hanleys leaking it through his friends or agent or whoevers around him. im saying the leaked info is coming from somewhere, ie his camp. read through carefully.

i doubt hanley is giving orders to leak stuff - he can deliver his message directly - he doesn't need to stir up a crap storm at this time and put what will ultimately be negative attention on himself publicly i'd be positive the sources are people he talks to about this stuff though - people who have pre-existing contact with media your right he doesnt need to stir any of this up, but he is because hes a baby and wants some attention or is mad hes no longer the center of attention on the team. its causing him negative attention but his past has shown he doesnt care about that kind of stuff.

#Marlins official just told me Hanley Ramirez has NOT asked to be traded -Capozzi sure, but this info isnt coming from nowhere. it all fits with his history of being a baby so i dont find it that hard to believe. hes handling it in a juvenile matter by leaking it to the media.

Listen, this is like what, the fourth or so story of him having a problem with the reyes from a credible news source. these guys dont just make up stories. they r getting the info from someone in hanleys camp, and the person leaking the info is likely doing so on orders from hanley. hanleys not gonna come out publicly and say it but theres too much smoke here for it to just be outright dismissed.

fine. see what you can get for him and if its a good value id do it. let him go be a baby somewhere else if it hurts his feeling he cant play SS anymore.

Lebron = 2010. Pujols = 2011. Manning 2012. Crosby = 2013.

The Marlins seem to be just throwing low ball offers out to anyone out there to drum up PR for the new stadium. They might go out and land Reyes, but my instinct tells me that the reports of other GMs saying the Marlins arent serious about most of these offers is more accurate. If its a PR move its further evidence what a bunch of clowns these guys are and why they are regarded as such by the rest of the league. But Im still hoping we land Reyes as it seems thats the only marquee guy we are going after seriously.

Nolan Ryan has been doing this new thing in Texas wheres hes having these guys throw longer into games and it seems to be working with their staff. I agree with the guy who said we baby our pitchers. Secondly I dont think the team misled anyone here. I think JJ just cant handle throwing the way he does and probably needs to learn how to not exert himself so much on every single pitch. Unfortunately hes fallen apart for us at the most crucial times of the last 3 seasons.