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Manny wants out

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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2118911

 

BOSTON -- Manny Ramirez's trade request will be difficult to honor because of his contract, Boston Red Sox president Admin Lucchino said Thursday.

 

Lucchino also said he didn't know the left fielder's motivation for refusing manager Terry Francona's request to play Wednesday afternoon's game at Tampa Bay after another outfielder, Trot Nixon, was sidelined with a strained muscle in his side. Before the injury, Francona told Ramirez he could have the day off.

 

"It's hard to know if the events of the last couple of days are the result of sort of psychological and physical needs for a sustained period of rest or it's some calculation or some move to encourage us to trade him," Lucchino told WEEI radio on his regularly scheduled segment.

 

Lucchino and Ramirez's agent, Scott Parker, did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment. Team owner John Henry and general manager Theo Epstein did not respond to e-mails, and the Red Sox clubhouse was locked on their day off Thursday.

 

Ramirez is batting .275 with 28 homers and a major league-leading 92 RBI for the Red Sox, who lead the AL East by 1? games over the New York Yankees. He is due $57 million over the remaining three years of his contract.

 

On Tuesday, Sports Illustrated reported on its Web site that Ramirez, for at least the third time in four seasons, had asked to be traded. The report said he told club officials he was unhappy in Boston, especially with an off-field lack of privacy.

 

The Red Sox will explore trading him before Sunday's deadline, but that will be tough, Lucchino said.

 

"Because of the size of his contract, obviously, it's hard," he said. "There aren't a lot of clubs that are going to be interested, but it depends how little you're willing to take in return with respect to trades. I'm not talking about Manny specifically, although it certainly applies to him."

 

A club might want to make a deal if it asks the Red Sox to pay 95 percent of Ramirez's salary, "but that's not a particularly intelligent thing for us to do," Lucchino said.

 

He also said this is the fourth straight season in which Ramirez has requested a trade "and our general response was, `it's that time of year' and we'll explore it as we explore other trades."

 

Boston may resist trading Ramirez because it is short in the outfield. With Nixon on the 15-day disabled list and Ramirez not playing, Francona used first baseman Kevin Millar in left field and rookie Adam Stern in right Wednesday.

 

Despite leading the division, Red Sox officials would like to improve their postseason chances with a trade. Last year, Epstein sent shortstop Nomar Garciaparra to the Chicago Cubs at the deadline.

 

"It is the time of year when you consider all manner of trades," Lucchino said. "Theo is certainly willing to be bold and make moves that other GMs might shy away from, so this is the time for us to think about trades and, certainly, Manny's name will come up from time to time, I'm sure, in the next 72 hours."

 

 

How could the Marlins make this work. Only serious suggestions please because the easy answer is "no-way" I am thinking somewhere in the line of AJ and Mikey and a prospect for Manny and a servicable starter and alot of cash. Or perhaps a Three way trade with another team could work.

AJ, Lowell, Encarnacion, Josh Johnson and probably Bazardo (so they pay some big $$)

 

Manny, Sanchez, Arroyo.

 

That'd get it done.

Manny doesn't want to come here. He wants to be traded to go to the Mets. Last year he said it was his dream to play in New York and now Pedro is there.

Manny doesn't want to come here. He wants to be traded to go to the Mets. Last year he said it was his dream to play in New York and now Pedro is there.

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I agree he's a NY guy

How about

 

Sox get:

AJ

Lowell

Lyle Overbay

Bazardo

 

Brewers get:

Olsen

Millar

 

Marlins get:

Ramirez

(tons of cash)

 

The Sox upgrade at 3B, 1B, and get an ace pitcher

 

The Brewers get a top pitching prospect and a fill-in at 1B for the rest of the year before Prince Fielder come to town

 

The Marlins get Ramirez....

 

and then another WS Ring!

How about

 

Sox get:

AJ

Lowell

Lyle Overbay

Bazardo

 

Brewers get:

Olsen

Millar

 

Marlins get:

Ramirez

(tons of cash)

 

The Sox upgrade at 3B, 1B, and get an ace pitcher

 

The Brewers get a top pitching prospect and a fill-in at 1B for the rest of the year before Prince Fielder come to town

 

The Marlins get Ramirez....

 

and then another WS Ring!

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YES PLEASE!!!

AJ

Lowell

Billy the Marlin

The Peanut Vendors in the Club Levels

and some Beer

 

for

 

Manny

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no lowell, instead the dancing peanut guy.

What the heck we can dream can we....

 

Lowell

AJ

Juan

 

for

 

Manny

A. Sanchez(AA pitcher)

$$$$$

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wow, talk about greedy. so we get the best player in the deal AND the best prospect? and money? how much crack will we have to throw in?

 

i do think that you're close to what it would take. but it would have to look more like this:

 

Lowell

AJ

Juan

Hermida

 

for

 

Manny

$$$$$$

 

Manny's expensive, but he's also one of the greatest hitters in the league. To get him along with the money we'd need to be able to afford him, we'd have to give up a lot more than the guys we are dying to give up. it would have to pinch.

Hermida CANT go, I don't think..

untouchable

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yeah, i'm not saying i'd support it. i'm saying that's what it would realistically take to make it happen.

The only way any deal could possibly go through is if you throw in Hansen.

 

You get

AJ

Lowell

Olsen

Josh Johnson

PTBNL=Willingham

 

We get

Manny

Arroyo

Hansen

A keg full of money

The only way any deal could possibly go through is if you throw in Hansen.

 

You get

AJ

Lowell

Olsen

Josh Johnson

PTBNL=Willingham

 

We get

Manny

Arroyo

Hansen

A keg full of money

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cant happen since you cant trade a drafted player until a year after the draft, plus Hanson is the next Lidge.

What the heck we can dream can we....

 

Lowell

AJ

Juan

 

for

 

Manny

A. Sanchez(AA pitcher)

$$$$$

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Manny Ramirez is a 2 tool player. He hits for power and for average, although that part may be in decline. He does nothing else well and does not hustle. He is a dog. He makes $20 mil a year. The RS have been dying to dump his doggy ass for 2 years. Heaven help the GM who takes on his enormous salary and crappy attitude during his declining years.

The only way any deal could possibly go through is if you throw in Hansen.

 

You get

AJ

Lowell

Olsen

Josh Johnson

PTBNL=Willingham

 

We get

Manny

Arroyo

Hansen

A keg full of money

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cant happen since you cant trade a drafted player until a year after the draft, plus Hanson is the next Lidge.

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Oh well. OK. We'll stand pat with what we have then.

How about

 

Sox get:

AJ

Lowell

Lyle Overbay

Bazardo

 

Brewers get:

Olsen

Millar

 

Marlins get:

Ramirez

(tons of cash)

 

The Sox upgrade at 3B, 1B, and get an ace pitcher

 

The Brewers get a top pitching prospect and a fill-in at 1B for the rest of the year before Prince Fielder come to town

 

The Marlins get Ramirez....

 

and then another WS Ring!

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you know what dude

 

i think that is brilliant. that really makes sense. I'd do it

i would love manny if we could afford him, that would be the most dominant line-up cabs,delgado,manny. and he may be declining but he's still awesome. look at all the older people that are good:clemens,finley, edmonds,griffey, and delgado is manny's age and no one complained about him! i would love him but we simply cant afford him with our payroll unless we trade lowell and all his contract and they would pay half of manny's which is not happening.

How about

 

Sox get:

AJ

Lowell

Lyle Overbay

Bazardo

 

Brewers get:

Olsen

Millar

 

Marlins get:

Ramirez

(tons of cash)

 

The Sox upgrade at 3B, 1B, and get an ace pitcher

 

The Brewers get a top pitching prospect and a fill-in at 1B for the rest of the year before Prince Fielder come to town

 

The Marlins get Ramirez....

 

and then another WS Ring!

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you know what dude

 

i think that is brilliant. that really makes sense. I'd do it

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I know....I should be the GM. Although, I think Beinfest is ok too. :cool

 

I think the Brewers and Sox would snap this up - but I think the amount of $$ the Sox would need to kick in is too astronomical for the Marlins to bite...but who knows, right? Maybe if we could get Manny's salary down to maybe $13 Million a year (instead of $20 Million), while we shed the $7 Million contract of Lowell, we'd pretty much have the same payroll next year once AJ, Enc, and Alex leave.

 

Anyway, could you imagine a lineup of

 

Pierre

Castillo

Delgado

Ramirez

Miggy

LoDuca

Hermida

Andino

 

Pretty awesome.

Anyone who seriously thinks that...

 

A) Manny could become a Marlin

B) Manny could fit into the Marlin's plans

C) This would actually be a good idea

 

...needs to stop sniffing glue.

 

This is just silly.

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