I will support this organization where ever they move. Its not the town I am cheering for it is the team no matter where they play.

 

Why not San Antonio that would be nice! I know they are not even talking about SA but hell they are trying to get a pro football team why not get a baseball team as well they have the spurs and the town supports the hell out of them.

The Marlins are going to move unless a miracle happens. That is the unfortunate reality of the situation. The way I look at it is that the Marlins are the only baseball team I have ever rooted for. Its not the easiest thing to just start over with a new organization. I have emotional ties to this team that dont only rely on them being in South Florida. There isn't an on/off switch for me and the Fish, meaning I will support them no matter what.

I'm drawing the line at JP and Luis....if their gone, it's gonna be hard to root for them considering those two were the heart and soul.

Give Up? NEVER!!!

To me this is just another bump in the road for the organization, I know its tough, but you'll see we'll pull through. The Fish are here to stay! I still believe! I still believe! I still believe!

"Every breath they take

Every trade they make

Every lease they break

Every draft they take

I will root for them

 

Every single day

Every price we pay

Every game they play

Every year they stay

I will root for them

 

O-say can't you see

World Series victories

How my poor heart aches, another trade rumor breaks

 

Every trade they make

Every lease they break

Every draft they take

Marlins' fate at stake

I'll be rooting them

 

If they're gone I'll be lost without a trace

I wanna see the Marlins take first place

Without the wild card win division race

I keep crying Save The Marlins please!!!!!

 

Every trade they make

Every lease they break

EVery draft they take

Marlins' fate at stake

I will root for them"

The fire sale talk is coming from the press and it has some foundation. The Marlins have said they are making a market correction. I am hopeful that they have made that correction and intend on putting a major league quality team on the field. here it goes:

 

pierre 5.5

castillo 5.3

cabrera

jacobs

loduca 6.5

hermedia

conine 1.5

ramirez

 

willis 4.0

elarton 4.0 (we must sign a sp and i propose him to a 2 yr 9 mil deal)

vargas

olsen

johnson/sanchez/petit

 

villone 2.0

affeldt 2.0 (trade a prospect)

Looper 2.5 (must improve bp)

 

33.3 million. They can keep the total under 40 million with payout to leiter, pudge and delgado. this a young major league caliber team with the best pitcher in the nl and one of the best hitters in baseball.

 

I would have no problem with this team.

 

It is a reach but maybe they are testing the value of these players and not planning on dealing some of these guys?

If some of the remaining veterans are gonna be traded, I say keep them until the trade deadline, teams are gonna want players much more urgently than they do now, we might get more for them later on

If some of the remaining veterans are gonna be traded, I say keep them until the trade deadline, teams are gonna want players much more urgently than they do now, we might get more for them later on

 

 

Agreed. Many things can change between now and next summer. We need these veterans to help develop all these youngsters.

Giving up on the Marlins? Not in a million years. In fact . I'm even more excited for the season to start than I was before the fire-sale started . Im excited to see this Young team come alive this season. I love the underdogs and I dont ever want the Marlins to be front runners for the playoffs before the season starts again. My Sons and I adore the Marlins and will love them wherever they go, even though I absolutely believe that they will be staying right here in South Florida.

The only thing I will be saddened by , is when they trade Juan Pierre , I believe he is a catalyst for this team . There is not a harder working player in baseball right now than JP , That is something these young guys need to see. Bottom Line is : I love the Marlins and I trust Loria and Co. will make this thing work .

I'm drawing the line at JP and Luis....if their gone, it's gonna be hard to root for them considering those two were the heart and soul.

 

Who decided they were the heart and soul?

I won't stop rooting for this team I root for the men in the jerseys not what the front office does or says as far as i'm concerned this team will always be my team until they move out of south florida and then still i'll probably root for them.

i havent give up hope that a stadium will be built.

 

and while i hate seeing delgado and josh go, im excited to watch these youngsters play and develop

Stranger things have happened. The Twins were supposedly being eliminated, and now they're contenders in the AL Central. The Expos moved, but it took several years for that to finally happen. If the Marlins move, it won't be soon going by baseball's recent past, and the longer it goes the better the chance they remain in Florida. I don't think they'll contend next year, but I'm optimistic for the long-term future assuming they get something resolved and don't have to keep selling off the players every few years.

I'm drawing the line at JP and Luis....if their gone, it's gonna be hard to root for them considering those two were the heart and soul.

 

Who decided they were the heart and soul?

 

I did...To me their the ones who jump start the sleepy offense....who make the spectacular fielding plays....who come out to slap five with the guy who just made a homer...All i'm saying is it will be hard to support a team who gets rid of these two for next to nothing.

I haven't given up. The way I see it is, it ain't over 'til the fat lady sings.

I havent given up on the marlins or the possibility of them staying in Florida...but if the marlins leave they are no longer the marlins and the only link to the marlins is the horrible ownership that moved them at that point i will give up on the "Loria's team" and probably baseball .....Hopefully it doesnt come to that point

I've come to far along with this organization to just turn my back to it..........

Here's why I haven't given up on the stadium in Miami:

 

1) Portland's stadium plan is a 10 year plan, meaning the absolute best on their end is 2016...so that's probably out.

 

2) Vegas, at the earliest, is looking at a stadium by 2011, and that's assuming the casino owners go along for the ride and don't put serious resistance into the matter considering that's their entertainment dollar being taken away...also, the stadium probably wouldn't be on the strip, but in downtown Vegas. Which is kind of like promising someone Disney World and then taking them to Kissimme. Plus, the only reason I'm breathing easy on Vegas is that they don't have a facility ready to house baseball like D.C. did with RFK, so the Marlins would have to endure at least 3 years, but more likely 4 or 5 years as a lame-duck franchise in Miami, and this doesn't even take into account that they'd be completely without a home for one season given the year seperation between the expiration of the Pro Player lease and the Vegas stadium ETA.

 

3) Wayne's now making a play to keep the Marlins, just not in Pro Player (as has been his goal all along), and Wayne usually gets what Wayne wants when he's involved in the financing end of it. Wayne already has two desireable things that Miami never had in this negotiating process: good, desireable land and money to back up his ambition. Wayne's been after his Wayne's World mecca for God knows how long, this is probably his last chance...I doubt he lets it go.

 

Plus, FWIW, I've got a friend who works in the MLB offices here in New York, and he's said the general mood is that the Expos/Nationals situation in D.C. has been such a clusterf**k that it's really soured everyone on the whole relocation process, and if D.C. was the far and away #1 for relocation 2 seasons ago, it isn't going to get much better.

 

So, the fact that relocation is out there isn't great, but Vegas has been on the table for a while with nothing happening, and for those who are new to the franchise, contraction was out there too...and we know how that turned out.

Here's why I haven't given up on the stadium in Miami:

 

1) Portland's stadium plan is a 10 year plan, meaning the absolute best on their end is 2016...so that's probably out.

 

2) Vegas, at the earliest, is looking at a stadium by 2011, and that's assuming the casino owners go along for the ride and don't put serious resistance into the matter considering that's their entertainment dollar being taken away...also, the stadium probably wouldn't be on the strip, but in downtown Vegas. Which is kind of like promising someone Disney World and then taking them to Kissimme. Plus, the only reason I'm breathing easy on Vegas is that they don't have a facility ready to house baseball like D.C. did with RFK, so the Marlins would have to endure at least 3 years, but more likely 4 or 5 years as a lame-duck franchise in Miami, and this doesn't even take into account that they'd be completely without a home for one season given the year seperation between the expiration of the Pro Player lease and the Vegas stadium ETA.

 

3) Wayne's now making a play to keep the Marlins, just not in Pro Player (as has been his goal all along), and Wayne usually gets what Wayne wants when he's involved in the financing end of it. Wayne already has two desireable things that Miami never had in this negotiating process: good, desireable land and money to back up his ambition. Wayne's been after his Wayne's World mecca for God knows how long, this is probably his last chance...I doubt he lets it go.

 

Plus, FWIW, I've got a friend who works in the MLB offices here in New York, and he's said the general mood is that the Expos/Nationals situation in D.C. has been such a clusterf**k that it's really soured everyone on the whole relocation process, and if D.C. was the far and away #1 for relocation 2 seasons ago, it isn't going to get much better.

 

So, the fact that relocation is out there isn't great, but Vegas has been on the table for a while with nothing happening, and for those who are new to the franchise, contraction was out there too...and we know how that turned out.

 

very interesting. so it seems like it would be cheaper for the Marlins and MLB to pony up the difference and get it done in South Florida?

Here's why I haven't given up on the stadium in Miami:

 

1) Portland's stadium plan is a 10 year plan, meaning the absolute best on their end is 2016...so that's probably out.

 

2) Vegas, at the earliest, is looking at a stadium by 2011, and that's assuming the casino owners go along for the ride and don't put serious resistance into the matter considering that's their entertainment dollar being taken away...also, the stadium probably wouldn't be on the strip, but in downtown Vegas. Which is kind of like promising someone Disney World and then taking them to Kissimme. Plus, the only reason I'm breathing easy on Vegas is that they don't have a facility ready to house baseball like D.C. did with RFK, so the Marlins would have to endure at least 3 years, but more likely 4 or 5 years as a lame-duck franchise in Miami, and this doesn't even take into account that they'd be completely without a home for one season given the year seperation between the expiration of the Pro Player lease and the Vegas stadium ETA.

 

3) Wayne's now making a play to keep the Marlins, just not in Pro Player (as has been his goal all along), and Wayne usually gets what Wayne wants when he's involved in the financing end of it. Wayne already has two desireable things that Miami never had in this negotiating process: good, desireable land and money to back up his ambition. Wayne's been after his Wayne's World mecca for God knows how long, this is probably his last chance...I doubt he lets it go.

 

Plus, FWIW, I've got a friend who works in the MLB offices here in New York, and he's said the general mood is that the Expos/Nationals situation in D.C. has been such a clusterf**k that it's really soured everyone on the whole relocation process, and if D.C. was the far and away #1 for relocation 2 seasons ago, it isn't going to get much better.

 

So, the fact that relocation is out there isn't great, but Vegas has been on the table for a while with nothing happening, and for those who are new to the franchise, contraction was out there too...and we know how that turned out.

 

very interesting. so it seems like it would be cheaper for the Marlins and MLB to pony up the difference and get it done in South Florida?

 

Not necessarily cheaper but certainly less of a headache for all involved, and if Loria is truly losing 8 figures a year, imagine what it would be like as a lame duck franchise for 4 years. However, one could say that he's pocketing revenue sharing money now in anticipation for that later. There are too many signals out there to conclusively say where this is going, but uncertainty sure is helpful in a put up or shut up situation like we're in...giving everyone more time to "put up" is never a bad thing.

Not to mention the DC stadium plan is going south fast. The city is now looking to MLB to cover cost overruns. Sound familiar?

I've come to far along with this organization to just turn my back to it..........

 

 

By leaving aren't they turning their back on you ?? The players change, the owners change in theory the one thing that binds us to a team is its location . It is supposed to represent us as Floridians , if they arent in Florida they arent the Marlins. They are merely Loria's "organization" that has existed only 3 years.

Sadly I have been a fan for exactly half a year (I became a fan back in May 29th) but yea, I guess I have to find another team.

 

It's strange though, I look at other teams that I want to root for mainly that have been at the top of the list being the Nats, A's, and Dodgers; but I can't truly switch teams like that. I felt like the team we had last year was great, i could do serious damage and there were a lot of cool great players, the other organizations I mentioned have like 2 or 3 players I like and I don't even know how long they will be with that team and stuff :confused

I have given up.

 

Please note that this has nothing to do with the current firesale. I've already survived a major one and that did not sway my love for the Marlins.

 

I simply feel that there is no way to get a stadium done in South Florida and that the fanbase just isn't there.

 

 

Yet you're all still posting on a Marlins message board...

ive given up on their chances this year and their future in south florida

 

but...will i still show up? of course, because i have nothing better to do