Posted March 30, 200718 yr Marlins acquired catcher John Baker from the Athletics for Jason Stokes. Baker was Marlins property for a few weeks in Dec. 2005, getting claimed off waivers from the A's. However, the A's got him back when the Marlins tried to get him through waivers and he hit .273/.361/.386 for Triple-A Sacramento last season. The 26-year-old is strictly insurance for Florida. rotoworld.com
March 30, 200718 yr This was a great minor move for the Marlins when you consider how difficult it is for teams to acquire young catchers from other teams and the fact we rid ourselves of an injury-prone prospect in Jason Stokes. I really like Baker's talent and potential to become a major league catcher either this season or next season for the Marlins who were in dire need of a young catcher. Another small, yet steally move by Beinfest.
March 30, 200718 yr Pretty good line last year. Good insurance move. Wouldn't disagree and I remember when they got and then lost him...this trade is like a first clue in a new mystery novel. Hoover isn't an embarrassment, Trezniak (sp) either, plus a couple of young guys working their way through the system, one has to wonder if Olivo is okay or Treanor, or a trade blossoming, or perhaps Stokes was in the way of playing time for Sanchez and this was the best offer in an exchange????
March 30, 200718 yr Pretty good line last year. Good insurance move. Wouldn't disagree and I remember when they got and then lost him...this trade is like a first clue in a new mystery novel. Hoover isn't an embarrassment, Trezniak (sp) either, plus a couple of young guys working their way through the system, one has to wonder if Olivo is okay or Treanor, or a trade blossoming, or perhaps Stokes was in the way of playing time for Sanchez and this was the best offer in an exchange???? I'd guess the last assumption is probably the most likely.
March 30, 200718 yr Pretty good line last year. Good insurance move. Wouldn't disagree and I remember when they got and then lost him...this trade is like a first clue in a new mystery novel. Hoover isn't an embarrassment, Trezniak (sp) either, plus a couple of young guys working their way through the system, one has to wonder if Olivo is okay or Treanor, or a trade blossoming, or perhaps Stokes was in the way of playing time for Sanchez and this was the best offer in an exchange???? I actually wondered the same thing. Stokes was a better overall prospect when healthy. But maybe we're bringing in another pretty decent (and healthy) prospect to arrange for an even bigger trade in the near future, possibly for a catching cornerstone and give Sanchez some playing time in the meantime.
March 30, 200718 yr I was initially upset about this but whatever. we really did need a decent catcher for depth and baker is probably better than treanor right now.
March 31, 200718 yr lol... terrible Offseason report card grade goes to a G? :lol well this certainly didn't help most likely this trade becomes a nothing trade, but why even make the trade to begin with? I don't get it
March 31, 200718 yr The Marlins are content with Jacobs and considers Gabby Sanchez as the next guy. Hopefully its a nothing trade
March 31, 200718 yr lol... terrible Offseason report card grade goes to a G? :lol well this certainly didn't help most likely this trade becomes a nothing trade, but why even make the trade to begin with? I don't get it catching depth
March 31, 200718 yr lol... terrible Offseason report card grade goes to a G? :lol well this certainly didn't help most likely this trade becomes a nothing trade, but why even make the trade to begin with? I don't get it catching depth so why didn't we pluck JD Closser off waivers last week?
March 31, 200718 yr This was a great minor move for the Marlins when you consider how difficult it is for teams to acquire young catchers from other teams and the fact we rid ourselves of an injury-prone prospect in Jason Stokes. I really like Baker's talent and potential to become a major league catcher either this season or next season for the Marlins who were in dire need of a young catcher. Another small, yet steally move by Beinfest. Signing a minor league free agent like Quiroz, or picking up a guy like Closser, would have been similar moves in identifying a young catcher with some potential that would not have cost us a "Stokes." I don't mind acquiring Baker in a deal like this as I don't think it's a horrible idea, but other options were available to upgrade the organizational depth chart while maintaining what we had. And that is why this is not a "steally" move by Beinfest, even if I don't necessarily disagree with it. It's more of the overall philosophy of how he operates. He routinely misses opportunities to bring players into the organization that COULD help us where there is relatively no cost involved, and then at some point, he'll address that problem and have to trade away whatever to get it. Julio and Baker are two examples of this. It's probably not a huge deal cause all of the players involved are not going to turn into stars and probably not even starting caliber players, but we're just not the most efficient franchise in acquiring talent off waivers and minor trades. I think we could do just a solid job in this area, while keeping the Petits, Resops, and Stokes of our organization, in our organization. Regardless, I just really hope Baker can hit .240 in the bigs, cause that means Treanor is goodbye.
March 31, 200718 yr I hope Stokes make a play in AL as a DH or 1B. Former prospect, injury prone... and journey man What a sad story in Baseball. Say goodbye to Stokes. :tissue
March 31, 200718 yr Well, we weren't going to do anything with Stokes, so this pretty much affects nothing.
March 31, 200718 yr The most noise Stokes has ever made here is as trade bait. Though there was a time we could have gotten a LOT more from him.
March 31, 200718 yr lol... terrible Offseason report card grade goes to a G? :lol well this certainly didn't help most likely this trade becomes a nothing trade, but why even make the trade to begin with? I don't get it catching depth so why didn't we pluck JD Closser off waivers last week? Because Baker was an actual prospect and Beinfest likes the guy. How come you aren't the GM since you always hate EVERY trade and always end up wrong?
March 31, 200718 yr Thus ends the Jason Stokes story here. Actually I guess it never got started... lol, kinda knew it was going to happen anyway.
March 31, 200718 yr lol... terrible Offseason report card grade goes to a G? :lol well this certainly didn't help most likely this trade becomes a nothing trade, but why even make the trade to begin with? I don't get it catching depth so why didn't we pluck JD Closser off waivers last week? Because Baker was an actual prospect and Beinfest likes the guy. How come you aren't the GM since you always hate EVERY trade and always end up wrong? free a spot on the 40?
March 31, 200718 yr lol... terrible Offseason report card grade goes to a G? :lol well this certainly didn't help most likely this trade becomes a nothing trade, but why even make the trade to begin with? I don't get it catching depth so why didn't we pluck JD Closser off waivers last week? Because Baker was an actual prospect and Beinfest likes the guy. How come you aren't the GM since you always hate EVERY trade and always end up wrong? free a spot on the 40? Baker will be with the Marlins next year instead of Treanor. Baker can hit and has a good eye at the plate. Don't listen to many of these fans who never know anything about new players. Baker is a former PAC-10 all star C and was drafted in the 4th round, showing he has good potential. Baker has very good gap power as I've read- in 2004 he had 35 doubles and 15 HR, 24 doubles in 2005 and 19 doubles last year to go along with a steady .270 BA for a catcher. He is quick from what I've read as well and stretches some singles into doubles. Last season he went 10-20 in spring training with a double and a homer with the A's. I hate it when people think change is bad. This is the classic case of Beinfest ripping off one of the best in the business, Beane. Beane doesn't know that Stokes is USED GOODS and Beinfest does.....
March 31, 200718 yr If Beinfest really liked Baker he would have kept him when we had him last offseason. Beinfest didnt "rip" Beane off. I would actually look at it the other way around because we had Baker last year and we let him go. So we basically could have kept him for nothing but we gave something up for him... So let me get this straight... You give a player up for someone you had a year before and you rip the other team off? wow...
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