They needed to pull the trigger on sommething after last night, and their credit they did. Even saved a few bucks not that ever mattered but Kim is being paid $2.5 million for the year (vs $3.6 mil to Julio) less of course the $1,000,000 the Fish got from Arizona and Petit's $380k, their net 5/6ths of $1.2 million, or about $1 mill give or take.

 

The question I have is since Kim is in AAA on rehab what's his major league roster status?

 

I don't think your math is right as far as the salaries go. It is a wash. The Marlins owed Julio $2.5 million for the rest of the season. This season we'll be paying Kim the remainder of his $2.5 million. And Petit was not guaranteed $380K from the Marlins as far as I know unless he was put on the 25 man roster come Opening Day (which I doubt would've happened). So basically the salaries are a wash.

 

As far as Kim's status, he will be put on the Marlins 40-man roster. Once he is called up, he cannot be sent back down to the minors unless he is injured again. goes on the DL and needs to rehab unless the Marlins decide to try and put him through waivers.

They needed to pull the trigger on sommething after last night, and their credit they did. Even saved a few bucks not that ever mattered but Kim is being paid $2.5 million for the year (vs $3.6 mil to Julio) less of course the $1,000,000 the Fish got from Arizona and Petit's $380k, their net 5/6ths of $1.2 million, or about $1 mill give or take.

 

The question I have is since Kim is in AAA on rehab what's his major league roster status?

Agreed. Something had to be done. Beinfest must have called in a favor(or maybe now he owes one) to get anything back in return for Julio. In any case, to Beinfest's credit, he did it.

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Anyway, the Julio era is done. I hope he gets his head together. He was in an emotionally difficult position. All the other closer reclamation projects came in here with no expectations. Julio was the first one who came in with high expectations, which looking at his past performances were unrealistic. He was NEVER a dominant closer, unlike Benitez or Jones.

yes, we traded Julio for another struggling pitcher but Julio needed to be off the team that's the most important thing right now

 

the clubhouse wasn't right with Julio in it.

 

it's a clean slate with Kim coming in. Hopefully he provides us with a few solid innings here and there

well at least there will be no push to make Kim the closer.

yes, we traded Julio for another struggling pitcher but Julio needed to be off the team that's the most important thing right now

 

the clubhouse wasn't right with Julio in it.

 

it's a clean slate with Kim coming in. Hopefully he provides us with a few solid innings here and there

That's exactly the way to look at it.

 

So basically we traded for another sh*tty player?

 

Here's an idea: trade Julio to Arizona for Petit and 2.3 million.

That's the negative way of looking at it.

If Kim is such a headcase, I wonder if it would have been better if we had gotten Josh Fogg instead. I know both him and Kim were on the block for the Rockies, and they're stats the past couple years have been pretty much equal (Though Kim was real good earlier in his career, where as Fogg has been consitantly bad since he made his debut).

I would have taken an outfielder over another pitcher. Between all the arms that the Marlins are cycling between the bigs and the minors I would much rather have any of them on the mound over Julio or Kim.

And I'm sure the Rockies response to that was "if you want us to take Julio off your hands, you better believe you will take Kim off ours"

u can now fix ur sig lol

Their Reggie Abercrombies are probably better than our Reggie Abercrombies. I don't have extensive knowledge of their system, however.

 

 

While I'm ecstatic about Julio's departure to say that this was Beinfest's only option is absurd.

What team in their right mind was going to bring in Jorge Julio after the month+ crapfest he put up this year? And actually give up someone decent for him? I don't believe we could have done much better here.

Their Reggie Abercrombies are probably better than our Reggie Abercrombies. I don't have extensive knowledge of their system, however.

 

 

While I'm ecstatic about Julio's departure to say that this was Beinfest's only option is absurd.

What team in their right mind was going to bring in Jorge Julio after the month+ crapfest he put up this year? And actually give up someone decent for him? I don't believe we could have done much better here.

What team in their right mind would trade for Jorge Julio, pay him over $2 million dollars, lose a young arm, and automatically name him closer after he hadn't put up a decent season in half of a decade?

 

 

Oh wait...

 

2/5ths of a decade, lets be fair.

They needed to pull the trigger on sommething after last night, and their credit they did. Even saved a few bucks not that ever mattered but Kim is being paid $2.5 million for the year (vs $3.6 mil to Julio) less of course the $1,000,000 the Fish got from Arizona and Petit's $380k, their net 5/6ths of $1.2 million, or about $1 mill give or take.

 

The question I have is since Kim is in AAA on rehab what's his major league roster status?

 

I don't think your math is right as far as the salaries go. It is a wash. The Marlins owed Julio $2.5 million for the rest of the season. This season we'll be paying Kim the remainder of his $2.5 million. And Petit was not guaranteed $380K from the Marlins as far as I know unless he was put on the 25 man roster come Opening Day (which I doubt would've happened). So basically the salaries are a wash.

 

As far as Kim's status, he will be put on the Marlins 40-man roster. Once he is called up, he cannot be sent back down to the minors unless he is injured again. goes on the DL and needs to rehab unless the Marlins decide to try and put him through waivers.

 

You're forgetting the $1.1 million we received from the Diamondbacks, which unless we read otherwise that the Fish sent that (or some pro rata part) to Colorado, you have to think it stayed here with Colorado taking on his 2007 contract. I'll give you Petit perhaps not making the major league roster. Seems to me though that I remember reading (perhaps fallaciously) that Julio was taking a roster spot meant for Petit when the trade happened. It could be of course my memory is faulty and/or I did read it but the author was wrong, but I think that was out there.

 

In the end though, whatever it is, it is. If there is any happy side to this Kim has been pitching well in the minors and it's quite a task in the hitter-friendly PCL. That and the fact he just switched to Scott Boras which is some weird way gives me hope the guy has something left in the tank (thinking Boras doesn't need to be taking on a washed up client).

They needed to pull the trigger on sommething after last night, and their credit they did. Even saved a few bucks not that ever mattered but Kim is being paid $2.5 million for the year (vs $3.6 mil to Julio) less of course the $1,000,000 the Fish got from Arizona and Petit's $380k, their net 5/6ths of $1.2 million, or about $1 mill give or take.

 

The question I have is since Kim is in AAA on rehab what's his major league roster status?

 

I don't think your math is right as far as the salaries go. It is a wash. The Marlins owed Julio $2.5 million for the rest of the season. This season we'll be paying Kim the remainder of his $2.5 million. And Petit was not guaranteed $380K from the Marlins as far as I know unless he was put on the 25 man roster come Opening Day (which I doubt would've happened). So basically the salaries are a wash.

 

As far as Kim's status, he will be put on the Marlins 40-man roster. Once he is called up, he cannot be sent back down to the minors unless he is injured again. goes on the DL and needs to rehab unless the Marlins decide to try and put him through waivers.

 

You're forgetting the $1.1 million we received from the Diamondbacks, which unless we read otherwise that the Fish sent that (or some pro rata part) to Colorado, you have to think it stayed here with Colorado taking on his 2007 contract. I'll give you Petit perhaps not making the major league roster. Seems to me though that I remember reading (perhaps fallaciously) that Julio was taking a roster spot meant for Petit when the trade happened. It could be of course my memory is faulty and/or I did read it but the author was wrong, but I think that was out there.

 

In the end though, whatever it is, it is. If there is any happy side to this Kim has been pitching well in the minors and it's quite a task in the hitter-friendly PCL. That and the fact he just switched to Scott Boras which is some weird way gives me hope the guy has something left in the tank (thinking Boras doesn't need to be taking on a washed up client).

 

All I remember reading in newspaper accounts was that Arizona was paying $1 million of Julio's salary, not that they sent the Marlins the cash. According to Cot's Baseball Contracts, that seems to be the case. And I would think that if Colorado would have to take on the whole of Julio's $3.6 million salary, they probably wouldn't have pulled the trigger on this deal. I expect more details on Colorado's obligation will be published soon enough (if it hasn't already in the Denver press).

Julio's gone. Stop complaining. It's like complaining on Christmas because you only got a Wii instead of a Wii and a PS3.

 

He's gone. Let's celebrate.

 

:elefant :elefant :elefant :elefant :elefant

Their Reggie Abercrombies are probably better than our Reggie Abercrombies. I don't have extensive knowledge of their system, however.

 

 

While I'm ecstatic about Julio's departure to say that this was Beinfest's only option is absurd.

What team in their right mind was going to bring in Jorge Julio after the month+ crapfest he put up this year? And actually give up someone decent for him? I don't believe we could have done much better here.

What team in their right mind would trade for Jorge Julio, pay him over $2 million dollars, lose a young arm, and automatically name him closer after he hadn't put up a decent season in half of a decade?

 

 

Oh wait...

Doesn't answer my question, but if you want me to agree that Julio was a bad pickup, you know where I stand on that.

Who cares what we got for Julio, as long as he is not in this team anymore. We dont have to worry about him closing. Also most of us here wanted him to be cut. Atleast we got something in return. Who knows maybe Kim does good in this ball park.

Ramp, I'm quite sure published reports say we "received" $1.1 million from the Diamondbacks.

 

Bad reporting? Could be, but usually since ballplayers are paid along a set schedule the D'Backs would never have paid him any upfront $$$ on the way out the door. The $$$ would have come along in the trade while the Marlins assumed all responsibility for the contract he signed. That same contract is now the obligation of the Rockies. Players contracts don't change throughout the year (unless renegotiated, which is not the case here, at least as published) because they change teams.

Ramp, I'm quite sure published reports say we "received" $1.1 million from the Diamondbacks.

 

Bad reporting? Could be, but usually since ballplayers are paid along a set schedule the D'Backs would never have paid him any upfront $$$ on the way out the door. The $$$ would have come along in the trade while the Marlins assumed all responsibility for the contract he signed. That same contract is now the obligation of the Rockies. Players contracts don't change throughout the year (unless renegotiated, which is not the case here, at least as published) because they change teams.

ok... but I wasn't the one talking about money with you

Im excited

while getting rid of julio helps i think we have alot of holes to fill . Honestly right now only sergio mitre has pitched like a solid mlb pitcher , our outfield is the worst in baseball , 1/2 of our infield is performing well below average , and our catchers are substandard . It is early but this just feels like a year in which things arent clicking everything that could go wrong has gone wrong .

NICE! Kim is no stud... But might as well try anything but Julio

Rotoworld seems to think hes going right in Wes' spot in the rotation.

 

I'd rather Kim just be used as a situational pitcher against RHP.. him vs. lefties is a mess

ok... but I wasn't the one talking about money with you

 

My bad

Yeah, I see him taking overObermueller's spot immediately. We needed the extra heacase SP over the extra headcase RP

You ain't kidding about Kim as a headcase. Visions of the 01 series keep flashing through my head. thank god arizona won or we wouldn't have Kim on this great green earth.

why would he take wes spot? he's been pitching good.