2003, I know it's your own personal business (so If you don't want to, thats fine) but could you paste your email you wrote to samson? I'd like to see what you wrote, because i agree...this is pretty ridiculous

to: dsamson@flamarlins.com

 

I have supported this franchise, and every action taken since 2002 up to and including trading Miguel Cabrera without question or second-guessing. Until now. You want to bring in a three-fingered midget on crutches to play centerfield, I'll trust baseball operations are making the right move.

 

I just saw the "Marlins Manatees" promotion. Is your PR department out of its collective minds? The national perception of this franchise is bad enough and now this?

 

I don't mind being a laughingstock in the media, this is my team, I'm a season ticket holder, I'd would never turn my back on this club. Baseball and the Marlins are my passion.

 

How can Mr. Loria, who has proven himself to be the classiest person ever associated with this organization, or you as its president, allow yourselves to be demeaned by this?

 

This is horrifying and in such bad taste I'm appalled intelligent people would even consider it, nevermind let the idea see the light of day.

 

Think.

 

Does this push the image of this franchise forward?

 

Does this make Marlins fans feel better about being one?

 

Has it come to this that to be a Marlins fan is to be associated with this? Is this how you want people across the country, around the world to see us?

 

Whatever happened to good taste and common sense?

 

I beg of you not to do this.

 

 

That's my letter. I really would like to see every person here

write to the front office and express their disgust with this idea.

Five minutes, be polite, you get more with honey than vinegar,

but let them know you don't want this to become the face

of Marlins fans or ownership for that matter to the rest of the world.

this marlins low point .this not funny and not going bring new fans too game . the Mermaids was soso idea but this keep some family home

woah woah NOTHING is worse than trading for Jorge Julio!

to: dsamson@flamarlins.com

 

I have supported this franchise, and every action taken since 2002 up to and including trading Miguel Cabrera without question or second-guessing. Until now. You want to bring in a three-fingered midget on crutches to play centerfield, I'll trust baseball operations are making the right move.

 

I just saw the "Marlins Manatees" promotion. Is your PR department out of its collective minds? The national perception of this franchise is bad enough and now this?

 

I don't mind being a laughingstock in the media, this is my team, I'm a season ticket holder, I'd would never turn my back on this club. Baseball and the Marlins are my passion.

 

How can Mr. Loria, who has proven himself to be the classiest person ever associated with this organization, or you as its president, allow yourselves to be demeaned by this?

 

This is horrifying and in such bad taste I'm appalled intelligent people would even consider it, nevermind let the idea see the light of day.

 

Think.

 

Does this push the image of this franchise forward?

 

Does this make Marlins fans feel better about being one?

 

Has it come to this that to be a Marlins fan is to be associated with this? Is this how you want people across the country, around the world to see us?

 

Whatever happened to good taste and common sense?

 

I beg of you not to do this.

 

 

That's my letter. I really would like to see every person here

write to the front office and express their disgust with this idea.

Five minutes, be polite, you get more with honey than vinegar,

but let them know you don't want this to become the face

of Marlins fans or ownership for that matter to the rest of the world.

 

 

 

 

 

That is a nice letter 03.

 

Short, sweet, and to the point. I'll have to write one similar later tonight

i talk to person who setting this up their say it good idea and this going make marlins only team in baseball to have it he say miami heat have it too i have not seen it

i talk to person who setting this up their say it good idea and this going make marlins only team in baseball to have it he say miami heat have it too i have not seen it

 

Whoever he is, tell him to get his resume together because when this blows up and s*** hits the fan, he's going to be looking for another job.

I've already written to David Samson about this. I hope others do as well.

 

I can't promise I will, but honestly this demeens the whole idea of fandom. It angers me to a ridiculous level that Samson/Loria/PR Dept seriously think this will lure fans in any regard. Please, get the stadium done, and get rid of those jokers, someone... :confused

 

Perhaps put a bit differently, that what I said...it's demeaning to every Marlins fan...is this how you want the rest of the country...the rest of the world to see us...I couldn't believe Jeffrey Loria would want to be associated with this...the PR dept is out of control and out of touch the fans...it's humiliating.

 

 

if only he spent more time figuring out how to make money off the field so that he could keep miggy and dtrain and less time supporting crappy ideas like fat dancers and David Samson. Orange damn colors and this idiot bringing fat bellies to the games. You know what brings butts to the seats? Sustained competition. Not this caca

i talk to person who setting this up their say it good idea and this going make marlins only team in baseball to have it he say miami heat have it too i have not seen it

 

The Heat do have it... They also have the "Golden Oldies"

 

 

Everyone is making a really big deal out of nothing. Who gives a flying f*** if there are fat guys rooting for the Marlins.. Its all for fun! You mean to tell me you go to games for the Mermaids?? Give me a break.. Who gives a sh*t about this...

I seriously think the entire PR department needs to be fired. The marketing slogans are lame and repetitive. The promotions are so extraneous and idiotic that they don't even really get people excited about baseball.

 

It's almost like they think these stupid promotions are the deal breaker in attending a game. Outside of the quality on the field, the people want cheap tickets, cheap food, and cheap beer. If they can't address any of those issues then they shouldn't even try.

Well, they actually can't address the cheap food and beer issue to the best of my knowledge.

 

Also, I know it's stupid, but I think everyone is making a bigger deal of this than it actually is.

 

Still stupid though.

i talk to person who setting this up their say it good idea and this going make marlins only team in baseball to have it he say miami heat have it too i have not seen it

 

The Heat do have it... They also have the "Golden Oldies"

 

 

Everyone is making a really big deal out of nothing. Who gives a flying f*** if there are fat guys rooting for the Marlins.. Its all for fun! You mean to tell me you go to games for the Mermaids?? Give me a break.. Who gives a sh*t about this...

 

I don't have any sort of problem with fat guys rooting for the marlins, if a group of fans got together and pulled something like this on their own, I'd think it was a humorous idea, however, I find it atrocious that PR and by association the team president (and anyone else held accountable for such decisions up the ladder) would approve this. The concept behind approving this is that it will in some way help the Marlins' image, as 2003 said, this does no such thing.

 

It makes the ownership look a bit like a circus, also, in terms of lowering the costs of beer and food, if the Marlins took the money they were gonna pay the Manatees promotional situations, or the Mermaids and covered the cost of food a little bit (though I'm not sure that's actually possible, but somewhat realistic) we'd be making progress.

 

Fact is, I live too far away to go to too many games, if any, but I'm not going to see the Mermaids, Manatees, Manta Rays, Wooly Mammoths or Materialistic Marmalade Mashers. I'm going to see the Florida Marlins play baseball, these little things do nothing to draw a) baseball fans or b) non baseball fans to the ballpark, therefore they are generally a waste of resources the team could allocate to other, more constructive endeavours, e.g. more commercials, more print ads, more memorablilia giveaway days. Any of the following would help get people to the stadium, fat guys with jiggly bellies? No...

 

/rant

I don't find is disgusting like some of you do, but I do think it's wasted money, and that's the only negitive feeling I have toward it.

 

It's all in good fun.

I agree with 2003 110% that this is just stupid for them to have that. I back up the organization in alot of things but humiliating themselves like this isn't the answer.

 

Forget this Manatee bullcrap.

Why did I ever lose weight, that would sure beat the crap out of working for Bank of America customer support.

to: dsamson@flamarlins.com

 

I have supported this franchise, and every action taken since 2002 up to and including trading Miguel Cabrera without question or second-guessing. Until now. You want to bring in a three-fingered midget on crutches to play centerfield, I'll trust baseball operations are making the right move.

 

I just saw the "Marlins Manatees" promotion. Is your PR department out of its collective minds? The national perception of this franchise is bad enough and now this?

 

I don't mind being a laughingstock in the media, this is my team, I'm a season ticket holder, I'd would never turn my back on this club. Baseball and the Marlins are my passion.

 

How can Mr. Loria, who has proven himself to be the classiest person ever associated with this organization, or you as its president, allow yourselves to be demeaned by this?

 

This is horrifying and in such bad taste I'm appalled intelligent people would even consider it, nevermind let the idea see the light of day.

 

Think.

 

Does this push the image of this franchise forward?

 

Does this make Marlins fans feel better about being one?

 

Has it come to this that to be a Marlins fan is to be associated with this? Is this how you want people across the country, around the world to see us?

 

Whatever happened to good taste and common sense?

 

I beg of you not to do this.

 

 

That's my letter. I really would like to see every person here

write to the front office and express their disgust with this idea.

Five minutes, be polite, you get more with honey than vinegar,

but let them know you don't want this to become the face

of Marlins fans or ownership for that matter to the rest of the world.

 

 

 

 

I think his email address is d.sampson@flamarlins.com- my friend says he heard it on 790 recently.

 

Nice email!

Why don't we also forward this thread to him too?

 

Chris

if its any consolation, im sure 3 dudes will show up and hate themselves for it.

I'm not going the doom and gloom route. Nor am I going to be as disgusted with it as some appear to be. Granted, it's a pretty bad idea. It may be a little fuuny at first but it is going to wear thin (no pun intended) pretty fast. This idea has to be from the desk of Sean Flynn. Never have cared much for him in the past. Let's all hope he is renting because now is not the time to be selling in our area. I'll write the letter voicing my displeasure, but I doubt it helps any. I would be surprised if they make it through the entire season anyway. Seems to be a mix of a Mermaids parody and the Bleacher Bums that team officials see as wholesome, family entertainment. In the meantime I'm just going to pray they don't come near my seats doing a dance on a hot and muggy South Florida night.

I think his email address is d.sampson@flamarlins.com- my friend says he heard it on 790 recently.

 

Nice email!

 

First of all thank you for the supportive words for my email but a) his name is "samson" not "sampson", b) it has not come back as undeliverable and c) I've been using this email address since 2003.

 

Unless he's changed it recently I'm pretty sure it's dsamson@flamarlins.com. That is also the format for all email with the Marlins - first initiial, last name. Admin Beinfest for example is lbeinfest@, etc.

Now do they have other mailboxes the genral public don't have access to, no doubt, but this is the publically available address for him.

Do they ever write back?

As if being a Marlins fan wasn't already embarassing...

Do they ever write back?

 

I've gotten responses within minutes, not for a week or sometimes several weeks but eventually a response. Considering Samson is probably pulling close to all-nighters getting the deal done and has for a week, he's not going to be looking at fan email and I recognize that.

 

I would be amazed if I heard a word back in the next ten days frankly.

Maybe there is someone in the PR department to contact as well?

 

I think we've beaten this subject to a pulp but I will say writing to the PR department about "their" PR idea is a waste of time. All you have are people who can't make an ultimate decision and or don't want to admit they were wrong. The only person I'd consider writing to would be Jeffrey Loria or Nancy Olsen who for years before she took over the Marlins Foundadtion was Loria's right hand.

 

That said, enough, it makes me nauseous thinking about shots of an empty Dolphin Stadium and then these guys on BBTN all season. Spring training started today :brigginbounce (as if you'd know that by the media coverage in South Florida) and we ought to start focusing on baseball now that the hot stove league has been extinguished for another year.

i send e-mail to Claude Delorme he sent e-mail pretty qiuck back

i send e-mail to Claude Delorme he sent e-mail pretty qiuck back

 

Good for you. :thumbup