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I think he has done an amazing job thus far managing the fish. If the team does this well at the end of the season, :pray

He might just be canidate for MOY. And he doesn't even have Cabrera or Willis. I had my doubts about him last year and frankly

did not like him at all. Ive changed my mind. We women are allowed to do that. :rolleyes:

On another note, very happy to be able to see as many games as I have considering I am smack in the middle

of Rays territory.

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has fredi had any ejections so far this year?

 

how many did he have last year?

 

but i agree with the rest of you in that im liking how he is handling the games so far

 

good to see he reshuffled the rotation so miller and hopper arent back to back which should benefit the bullpen in the long run

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has fredi had any ejections so far this year?

 

how many did he have last year?

 

but i agree with the rest of you in that im liking how he is handling the games so far

 

good to see he reshuffled the rotation so miller and hopper arent back to back which should benefit the bullpen in the long run

I was never a fan of measuring a manager by how many times he's been ejected.

 

But as far as that goes, he's been ejected once, but Tosca went on to manage a sh*tty game.

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has fredi had any ejections so far this year?

 

how many did he have last year?

 

but i agree with the rest of you in that im liking how he is handling the games so far

 

good to see he reshuffled the rotation so miller and hopper arent back to back which should benefit the bullpen in the long run

I was never a fan of measuring a manager by how many times he's been ejected.

 

But as far as that goes, he's been ejected once, but Tosca went on to manage a sh*tty game.

 

i wasnt particularly meaning that i judge managers based on ejections, it was just a general question

 

however i remember many were critical at his lack of "passion" at times last year in regards to ejections so in a way its interesting to see how he develops as a manager and what sort of style he adopts

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has fredi had any ejections so far this year?

 

how many did he have last year?

 

but i agree with the rest of you in that im liking how he is handling the games so far

 

good to see he reshuffled the rotation so miller and hopper arent back to back which should benefit the bullpen in the long run

I was never a fan of measuring a manager by how many times he's been ejected.

 

But as far as that goes, he's been ejected once, but Tosca went on to manage a sh*tty game.

 

i wasnt particularly meaning that i judge managers based on ejections, it was just a general question

 

however i remember many were critical at his lack of "passion" at times last year in regards to ejections so in a way its interesting to see how he develops as a manager and what sort of style he adopts

It wasn't an ejection thing, it was a "he sat there while they made terrible calls on us" thing. This year he has been coming out and fighting for his boys everytime, as opposed to never last year. Even yesterday when Brian Knight was doing his usual call f***ing up thing, Fredi was barking at him from the dugout.

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I cannot argue that Fredi has become a far better player manager, especially with the clubhouse moves he made this offseason like the iPod thing.

 

As a coach though, he's still subpar at best and is probably more suited to be an AL manager. He doesn't like to do double switches, he is constantly worried about the righty righy, lefty lefty situation to the point where he burns the pen. Take a look at last night, he used 7 relievers in 5 innings. I know you never coach for extra innings, but if Gregg blows that save last night, who do we bring in? An example of the double switch thing is how he brough Doug Waecther in the game last night. Waechter if my memory servers me right is a starting pitcher, yet he brings him in the 6th inning without a double switch knowing the 9th spot in the order was coming up.

 

He still makes a lot of moves that make me scratch my head, but his player manager skills have improved vastly.

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I cannot argue that Fredi has become a far better player manager, especially with the clubhouse moves he made this offseason like the iPod thing.

 

As a coach though, he's still subpar at best and is probably more suited to be an AL manager. He doesn't like to do double switches, he is constantly worried about the righty righy, lefty lefty situation to the point where he burns the pen. Take a look at last night, he used 7 relievers in 5 innings. I know you never coach for extra innings, but if Gregg blows that save last night, who do we bring in? An example of the double switch thing is how he brough Doug Waecther in the game last night. Waechter if my memory servers me right is a starting pitcher, yet he brings him in the 6th inning without a double switch knowing the 9th spot in the order was coming up.

 

He still makes a lot of moves that make me scratch my head, but his player manager skills have improved vastly.

 

im not sure if anyone else agrees with me but i believe the only reason he used 7 relievers in 5 innings is because we are off today

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I cannot argue that Fredi has become a far better player manager, especially with the clubhouse moves he made this offseason like the iPod thing.

 

As a coach though, he's still subpar at best and is probably more suited to be an AL manager. He doesn't like to do double switches, he is constantly worried about the righty righy, lefty lefty situation to the point where he burns the pen. Take a look at last night, he used 7 relievers in 5 innings. I know you never coach for extra innings, but if Gregg blows that save last night, who do we bring in? An example of the double switch thing is how he brough Doug Waecther in the game last night. Waechter if my memory servers me right is a starting pitcher, yet he brings him in the 6th inning without a double switch knowing the 9th spot in the order was coming up.

 

He still makes a lot of moves that make me scratch my head, but his player manager skills have improved vastly.

 

im not sure if anyone else agrees with me but i believe the only reason he used 7 relievers in 5 innings is because we are off today

 

So once again like I said, what would've happened in the 11th. Like i said above you never play to go to extra innings, but part of being a manger is keep atleast one pitcher back ther JUST IN CASE.

 

And I definately disagree with you about the off day, Fredi is so anal about the lefy and righty thing thats hes taken out some of our best hitters in the middle of the game because of it, see Jeremy Hermida and Mike Jacobs. I dont care who the lefty is, you dont take your 3rd and 5th hitter out of the lineup because its lefty lefy.

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I cannot argue that Fredi has become a far better player manager, especially with the clubhouse moves he made this offseason like the iPod thing.

 

As a coach though, he's still subpar at best and is probably more suited to be an AL manager. He doesn't like to do double switches, he is constantly worried about the righty righy, lefty lefty situation to the point where he burns the pen. Take a look at last night, he used 7 relievers in 5 innings. I know you never coach for extra innings, but if Gregg blows that save last night, who do we bring in? An example of the double switch thing is how he brough Doug Waecther in the game last night. Waechter if my memory servers me right is a starting pitcher, yet he brings him in the 6th inning without a double switch knowing the 9th spot in the order was coming up.

 

He still makes a lot of moves that make me scratch my head, but his player manager skills have improved vastly.

 

im not sure if anyone else agrees with me but i believe the only reason he used 7 relievers in 5 innings is because we are off today

 

So once again like I said, what would've happened in the 11th. Like i said above you never play to go to extra innings, but part of being a manger is keep atleast one pitcher back ther JUST IN CASE.

 

And I definately disagree with you about the off day, Fredi is so anal about the lefy and righty thing thats hes taken out some of our best hitters in the middle of the game because of it, see Jeremy Hermida and Mike Jacobs. I dont care who the lefty is, you dont take your 3rd and 5th hitter out of the lineup because its lefty lefy.

 

 

well it showed hopper warming up in the pen as he was specifically on bullpen duties yesterday - which was stated before the game due to rotation reshuffling

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I cannot argue that Fredi has become a far better player manager, especially with the clubhouse moves he made this offseason like the iPod thing.

 

As a coach though, he's still subpar at best and is probably more suited to be an AL manager. He doesn't like to do double switches, he is constantly worried about the righty righy, lefty lefty situation to the point where he burns the pen. Take a look at last night, he used 7 relievers in 5 innings. I know you never coach for extra innings, but if Gregg blows that save last night, who do we bring in? An example of the double switch thing is how he brough Doug Waecther in the game last night. Waechter if my memory servers me right is a starting pitcher, yet he brings him in the 6th inning without a double switch knowing the 9th spot in the order was coming up.

 

He still makes a lot of moves that make me scratch my head, but his player manager skills have improved vastly.

Just a couple comments:

 

1) Fredi has used the double switch in 20 of 25 games this season. To me, that might actually be a little bit, but you can't say he doesn't like the double switch.

 

2) While I agree that he could have used the double switch yesterday with Waechter, he ended up making one with Kevin Gregg, who was a former starter and can go multiple innings. Behind him we still had the Hopper.

 

3) For all the things to talk about, you are saying he is misusing the bullpen. The bullpen who has been misused into being the 2nd best pen in the league. While I also thing he used a few too many relievers yesterday, if one of the lefties had given up a run to a righty, we would be talking about how Fredi should have brought a righty in to face him.

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I cannot argue that Fredi has become a far better player manager, especially with the clubhouse moves he made this offseason like the iPod thing.

 

As a coach though, he's still subpar at best and is probably more suited to be an AL manager. He doesn't like to do double switches, he is constantly worried about the righty righy, lefty lefty situation to the point where he burns the pen. Take a look at last night, he used 7 relievers in 5 innings. I know you never coach for extra innings, but if Gregg blows that save last night, who do we bring in? An example of the double switch thing is how he brough Doug Waecther in the game last night. Waechter if my memory servers me right is a starting pitcher, yet he brings him in the 6th inning without a double switch knowing the 9th spot in the order was coming up.

 

He still makes a lot of moves that make me scratch my head, but his player manager skills have improved vastly.

Just a couple comments:

 

1) Fredi has used the double switch in 20 of 25 games this season. To me, that might actually be a little bit, but you can't say he doesn't like the double switch.

 

2) While I agree that he could have used the double switch yesterday with Waechter, he ended up making one with Kevin Gregg, who was a former starter and can go multiple innings. Behind him we still had the Hopper.

 

3) For all the things to talk about, you are saying he is misusing the bullpen. The bullpen who has been misused into being the 2nd best pen in the league. While I also thing he used a few too many relievers yesterday, if one of the lefties had given up a run to a righty, we would be talking about how Fredi should have brought a righty in to face him.

 

Well a lefty did give up a run to a righty (Bill Hall) which doesn't bother me, you can't coach scared of the whole same handedness situation. And I am not saying he misuses the bullpen in way to harm them, he just mis manages the game when it comes down to double switches, pinch hitting, etc. Plus our arms in the pen are great, that's what makes our bullpen good. Don't think that Fredi because he uses his righty righty, lefty lefty coached the pen to the 2nd best ERA in the league.

 

He also is more of a laid back let things happen manger as opposed to hitting and running and sending runner. This kind of bothers me, this is more of an to each his own type thing. I would love to see some more hit and runs, but at the same time we swing and miss more than any other team i assume (lots of ks).

 

Although he did attempt the double steal yesterday.

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Freddi > Girardi.

 

You guys might not understand the difference. Ever since Freddi Gonzalez became manager, the Marlins haven't had consistent starting pitching.

 

The reason why he used so many relievers yesterday...simple.

 

Pinto and Miller have been overworked already this year. But he wanted matchups, and they got the job done...limiting their pitches, as well.

 

He tried leaving Tank in there, against Bill Hall...look at what happened.

 

Freddi's team is 15-10, despite mediocre starting pitching. Doesn't that say something about how he uses his pen, so well?

 

Opposed to Girardi...I used to hate his infatuation with Matt Herges...seriously. And nothing was weirder than...pinch-running for the pinch-runner. Or bringing Josh Johnson back after like a 2 hour rain delay (that sucked :banghead ).

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Freddi > Girardi.

 

You guys might not understand the difference. Ever since Freddi Gonzalez became manager, the Marlins haven't had consistent starting pitching.

 

The reason why he used so many relievers yesterday...simple.

 

Pinto and Miller have been overworked already this year. But he wanted matchups, and they got the job done...limiting their pitches, as well.

 

He tried leaving Tank in there, against Bill Hall...look at what happened.

 

Freddi's team is 15-10, despite mediocre starting pitching. Doesn't that say something about how he uses his pen, so well?

 

Opposed to Girardi...I used to hate his infatuation with Matt Herges...seriously. And nothing was weirder than...pinch-running for the pinch-runner. Or bringing Josh Johnson back after like a 2 hour rain delay (that sucked :banghead ).

 

Oh my God! He was infatuated with Herges! It drove me insane.

 

As for Fredi, all I will say is that he's as good as his record...just like all managers.

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I still think hes an idiot.......The only thing that he has done decently is giving starters the hook at the right time......He still refuses to play any small ball, He refuses to hit Amezaga second, and still makes some questionable personell moves from time to time.....but hes been better than last year :D

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i like freddi...

 

his managerial style is very much traditionalist with his use of double switch, sac bunting, using the matchups and etc.

 

i like this because i am a baseball traditionalist...

 

i think he and our players are learning how to win together...but i think he is a very wise choice...very wise

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I still think hes an idiot.......The only thing that he has done decently is giving starters the hook at the right time......He still refuses to play any small ball, He refuses to hit Amezaga second, and still makes some questionable personell moves from time to time.....but hes been better than last year :D

#1 Amezaga doesn't play everyday, and we're not gonna bat Cody #2 at this point.

#2 This is the wrong team to ask for small ball. Blame Fredi if you like, but these guys hit doubles, triples, and HRs a lot better and with more regularity than sac bunts.

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I still think hes an idiot.......The only thing that he has done decently is giving starters the hook at the right time......He still refuses to play any small ball, He refuses to hit Amezaga second, and still makes some questionable personell moves from time to time.....but hes been better than last year :D

#1 Amezaga doesn't play everyday, and we're not gonna bat Cody #2 at this point.

#2 This is the wrong team to ask for small ball. Blame Fredi if you like, but these guys hit doubles, triples, and HRs a lot better and with more regularity than sac bunts.

 

 

#1 Amezaga should play everyday-----for defensive purposes eventhough he isnt great from the right side. Nothing against Uggla at all but I think you need to play a little small ball with that spot

 

#2 I think the whole---this team cant play small ball statement is nonsense----people complain how they cant produce runs and move runners (yesterday perfect example)----I think part of the reason is that for the most part Fredi doesnt like small ball......Yea these are power hitters that we have but when you have 1st and 2nd and no out Hermida, Treanor, Cantu, and the P should bunt every single time if the game situation warrants it.

 

I also dont think scrub Hermida should hit 3......Hammer is clearly the teams second best hitter and I truly have more confidence in a healthy Jacobs that Hermida

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#1 Amezaga should play everyday-----for defensive purposes eventhough he isnt great from the right side. Nothing against Uggla at all but I think you need to play a little small ball with that spot

Cody plays better defense in CF. Better arm and doesn't overrun fly balls.

 

#2 I think the whole---this team cant play small ball statement is nonsense----people complain how they cant produce runs and move runners (yesterday perfect example)----I think part of the reason is that for the most part Fredi doesnt like small ball......Yea these are power hitters that we have but when you have 1st and 2nd and no out Hermida, Treanor, Cantu, and the P should bunt every single time if the game situation warrants it.

The pitcher does always bunt in that situation. What are you talking about? The only times I've seen pitchers swing is with no one on base or sometimes with 2 strikes. Heck, Fredi even has them bunting with 2 strikes half the time...

 

I also dont think scrub Hermida should hit 3......Hammer is clearly the teams second best hitter and I truly have more confidence in a healthy Jacobs that Hermida

A matter of opinion that will make you unpopular over here. If it were up to me the batting order would start with

Ramirez

Hermida

Willingham

Jacobs

Uggla

Cantu (you can swap Uggla & Cantu based on who's hot at the moment)

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#1 Amezaga should play everyday-----for defensive purposes eventhough he isnt great from the right side. Nothing against Uggla at all but I think you need to play a little small ball with that spot

Cody plays better defense in CF. Better arm and doesn't overrun fly balls.

 

#2 I think the whole---this team cant play small ball statement is nonsense----people complain how they cant produce runs and move runners (yesterday perfect example)----I think part of the reason is that for the most part Fredi doesnt like small ball......Yea these are power hitters that we have but when you have 1st and 2nd and no out Hermida, Treanor, Cantu, and the P should bunt every single time if the game situation warrants it.

The pitcher does always bunt in that situation. What are you talking about? The only times I've seen pitchers swing is with no one on base or sometimes with 2 strikes. Heck, Fredi even has them bunting with 2 strikes half the time...

 

I also dont think scrub Hermida should hit 3......Hammer is clearly the teams second best hitter and I truly have more confidence in a healthy Jacobs that Hermida

A matter of opinion that will make you unpopular over here. If it were up to me the batting order would start with

Ramirez

Hermida

Willingham

Jacobs

Uggla

Cantu (you can swap Uggla & Cantu based on who's hot at the moment)

 

 

 

 

I know the P bunts everytime Im just saying who should bunt in that siutation...... come on man Fredo is def better defensively than Ross. Yes Ross is solid out there but he doenst have half the range that Fredo has

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