July 31, 200917 yr YAY!!!!! EB to the bench - improves our bench, and improves our starting lineup by a good bit.
July 31, 200917 yr That's it? Just Thompson? Weren't the Nats asking for both West AND Thompson at one point? I like the move, and they absorb the costs. Now we have a good 2 hole hitter, a good three hole power hitter, a good 4 hole hitter (although not a scary 4 hole hitter, unfortunately), and a young and speedy and improving 1 hole hitter. Coghlan Johnson Ramirez Cantu Ross Uggla Hermida (to be replaced shortly by Maybin) Baker/paulino Pitcher That lineup makes me happy.
July 31, 200917 yr You actually think Freddi is smart enough to bench EB, he is in love with the guy after all. I love the trade though, so excited!
July 31, 200917 yr i would have preferred teahen because he would have been able to play 3rd. i'm kinda worried about cantu's defense at the hot corner
July 31, 200917 yr I don't know if we actually offered more or not but it seems to me like the Nationals caved. And good thing, because it would have been tremendously deflating to every player on the team to be in contention and to not get some sort of reinforcement. All in all this is a great trade for us- Thompson isn't a sure enough prospect that we really have to worry too much about this coming back to bite us but we get a stretch run addition that could prove highly beneficial.
July 31, 200917 yr i would have preferred teahen because he would have been able to play 3rd. i'm kinda worried about cantu's defense at the hot corner Sure we should worry about Cantu at 3rd, it was horrendous early on last year. But remember, he is taking over for the NL leader in errors. I'm not saying errors is the best way to judge players by, but we have seen Bonifacio make dumb plays at 3B, and he was also still learning a new position this season. I'll take the offensive upgrade (.200 OPS points better btw over Boni) in the defensive semi downgrade.
July 31, 200917 yr i would have preferred teahen because he would have been able to play 3rd. i'm kinda worried about cantu's defense at the hot corner Sure we should worry about Cantu at 3rd, it was horrendous early on last year. But remember, he is taking over for the NL leader in errors. I'm not saying errors is the best way to judge players by, but we have seen Bonifacio make dumb plays at 3B, and he was also still learning a new position this season. I'll take the offensive upgrade (.200 OPS points better btw over Boni) in the defensive semi downgrade. Errors aren't the best way to judge defense, but at the same time if you make a lot of them, I don't think you're doing your job on defense.
July 31, 200917 yr I don't know if we actually offered more or not but it seems to me like the Nationals caved. And good thing, because it would have been tremendously deflating to every player on the team to be in contention and to not get some sort of reinforcement. All in all this is a great trade for us- Thompson isn't a sure enough prospect that we really have to worry too much about this coming back to bite us but we get a stretch run addition that could prove highly beneficial. I have a feeling that the Nats wanted much more originally and the Marlins were probably reluctant. The Nats probably wanted both Tucker and Thompson or West (or something like that) and the Marlins weren't budging. That is probably what killed the deal around 3:15. Probably not too long after the Nats realized that they were risking receiving nothing in return for Johnson and he would be walking free at season's end (I don't know what his draft pick compensation status would be). They probably felt obliged to get something in return and came crawling back.
July 31, 200917 yr I like that the Fish were able to keep Tucker/West, hard to believe they only got Thompson, almost feel like they felt sorry for the Marlins for Bonifacio.
July 31, 200917 yr So in the end, it was pretty much: Nats get: Willingham Olsen Thompson Fish get: Johnson Bonifacio Smolinski Dean
July 31, 200917 yr I don't know if we actually offered more or not but it seems to me like the Nationals caved. And good thing, because it would have been tremendously deflating to every player on the team to be in contention and to not get some sort of reinforcement. All in all this is a great trade for us- Thompson isn't a sure enough prospect that we really have to worry too much about this coming back to bite us but we get a stretch run addition that could prove highly beneficial. I have a feeling that the Nats wanted much more originally and the Marlins were probably reluctant. The Nats probably wanted both Tucker and Thompson or West (or something like that) and the Marlins weren't budging. That is probably what killed the deal around 3:15. Probably not too long after the Nats realized that they were risking receiving nothing in return for Johnson and he would be walking free at season's end (I don't know what his draft pick compensation status would be). They probably felt obliged to get something in return and came crawling back. That's exactly what I was thinking. I was reading that Johnson might not even end up a type B, so it probably hit them like a brick that they were going to end up with absolutely nothing for Johnson in two months,
July 31, 200917 yr So in the end, it was pretty much: Nats get: Willingham Olsen Thompson Fish get: Johnson Bonifacio Smolinski Dean and roughly $6 million in salary relief. (probably $5m net)
July 31, 200917 yr lol they called him little hitler on 790 There ain't nothing little about Nick the Stick.
July 31, 200917 yr Lol #mlbtrades, Hanley, who hits. .396 with runners on base, all smiles after Johnson trade went down. Also #mlbtrades an FYI, to make room on 40 man roster, Andy Gonzalez of Triple-A New Orleans, was designated for assignment. -Frisaro Twitter
July 31, 200917 yr Good, solid trade. Hopefully this gives us some consistency on the offensive side.
July 31, 200917 yr Gammons was saying earlier that the Nats were not expecting to get ANY draft compensation for Johnson, so my guess is they wanted to have SOMETHING to show for all of this. I like this pickup, as it gives us a real 2nd hitter who gets on base and takes some pressure off of the other hitters. Even better, it puts Bonifacio on the bench.
July 31, 200917 yr he was in the WS in 03 so this time he goes with us and wins it ;P...if we wint it this year would this team winning be more of a surpirse to you then the 03 team doing it?
July 31, 200917 yr We'll see if this is what it takes to push us over the this season. The Marlins will not be getting any type of compensatory picks in return for Johnson when he walks this offseason, so the Marlins are essentially blowing their load in this trade. It hard to say whether this will be the thing that does it for the Marlins in 2009. I don't think it makes the team a clear favorite by any means, but it definitely improves the team's chances. Anything that takes Bonifacio out of the lineup is addition by subtraction. When you add the fact the guy replacing him gets on base at a .400+ clip, you've got to be happy.
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