get both livan and sheff.

 

Gary Sheffield back as a marlin?

 

wow i cant help but smile.

 

yes he's like 45 yrs old (lol) and yes he throws b**** fits but i think he would really enjoy coming back here.

 

get it done.

With a guy like Livan even with a 5.5 ERA that translates to three - four runs in a six inning performance. If you could get that out of him every five days down the stretch we'd be in every one of those games especially with a fantasy lineup featuring Hanley, Uggla, Johnson and Sheffield.

 

Imagine the standing ovations both guy would get when they were introduced the first time.

 

But who knows, Livan could be out of gas, that would be the big worry, and a very legitimate one. I suspect that's not the case with Sheff. Wagner to me is not worth investing in until it will probably be too late.

absolutely not with livan unless wiley definitely notices something wrong with him that he can correct. we want innings, yes, but we also want quality innings, and hes been awful since the start of july and he has had a pretty bad whip each month. just dont want him at all and he is probably done in the majors.

Sheffield in a Marlin uniform brings back fond memories. I'd love to see him come back

I've said it on this very site that he is a Cancer and he's proven me right.

I've said it on this very site that he is a Cancer and he's proven me right.

 

except:

 

1) he REALLY wants to play here; and

2) it's only for a month

I've said it on this very site that he is a Cancer and he's proven me right.

 

And even if he is, he really killed the 97 team's chances, ey?

bring him in, his bat could really help us

I've said it on this very site that he is a Cancer and he's proven me right.

 

And even if he is, he really killed the 97 team's chances, ey?

 

He's not 1/3 of the player he was in 1997 today.

 

Not just physically either...

Omar Minaya says he expects Sheffield to say a Met according to Ben Shpigel of the New York Times.

I've said it on this very site that he is a Cancer and he's proven me right.

 

And even if he is, he really killed the 97 team's chances, ey?

 

He's not 1/3 of the player he was in 1997 today.

 

Not just physically either...

He's always been a dick.

 

I'm just saying, the cancer thing is overrated, it basically only comes up on losing teams. Remember when Randy Moss was a cancer who was going to ruin the chemistry in the Pats locker room?

 

If you don't want him because he can't field or some other real reason, that's fine. I don't actually want him, not sure what we'd do with him.

I've said it on this very site that he is a Cancer and he's proven me right.

 

And even if he is, he really killed the 97 team's chances, ey?

 

He's not 1/3 of the player he was in 1997 today.

 

Not just physically either...

 

 

Gary Sheffield is on pace to put up just as good of numbers as he did in 1997, while his batting average is .035 points higher, with all his other offensive statistics being just as good as 97, so the point that he won't produce offensively like he did in 97 is moot.

 

EDIT: Yes he had a lot more AB's that season, but if we somehow get him it would be for the final month. And if we keep him another year we could let Morrison play 1st base next year.

It really is amazing just how bad Sheffield's 97 season was, when looking at the years surrounding it. Especially coming off his monster '96 season (27th most walks in a single season, 64th best OBP, 96th OPS, 83rd OPS+)

I'd love to have him...if we're confident that he's healthy, at least as healthy as a 40YO can be. I'd play him full-time in RF. Hand Hermida a plane ticket to New Orleans if the Mets won't take him. We improve defensively and offensively. And we get a guy who'd be trying his hardest for the next 5 weeks(and hopefully beyond) in order to get a contract from somebody next year.

I'd love to have him...if we're confident that he's healthy, at least as healthy as a 40YO can be. I'd play him full-time in RF. Hand Hermida a plane ticket to New Orleans if the Mets won't take him. We improve defensively and offensively. And we get a guy who'd be trying his hardest for the next 5 weeks(and hopefully beyond) in order to get a contract from somebody next year.

 

 

 

Hermida's been doing terrible man, I agree.

 

.314/.429/.471 in August.

Attrocious. Send the bum to New Orleans.

I'd love to have him...if we're confident that he's healthy, at least as healthy as a 40YO can be. I'd play him full-time in RF. Hand Hermida a plane ticket to New Orleans if the Mets won't take him. We improve defensively and offensively. And we get a guy who'd be trying his hardest for the next 5 weeks(and hopefully beyond) in order to get a contract from somebody next year.

 

 

 

Hermida's been doing terrible man, I agree.

 

.314/.429/.471 in August.

Attrocious. Send the bum to New Orleans.

He's had a good few weeks....over the last 2 years.

If we do make the playoffs, I'd be nervous having a RF with ADD out there.

Just 1 of his patended "whoopsies" could cost the team everything. Just think of that SF Giant RF'er back in '03. Herm(ye of great potential) has pretty much proven that he's got the skill-sets, but doesn't have the head to handle the pressure of regular season MLB. I'd be very nervous in post-season MLB.

I'd love to have him...if we're confident that he's healthy, at least as healthy as a 40YO can be. I'd play him full-time in RF. Hand Hermida a plane ticket to New Orleans if the Mets won't take him. We improve defensively and offensively. And we get a guy who'd be trying his hardest for the next 5 weeks(and hopefully beyond) in order to get a contract from somebody next year.

 

 

 

Hermida's been doing terrible man, I agree.

 

.314/.429/.471 in August.

Attrocious. Send the bum to New Orleans.

He's had a good few weeks....over the last 2 years.

If we do make the playoffs, I'd be nervous having a RF with ADD out there.

Just 1 of his patended "whoopsies" could cost the team everything. Just think of that SF Giant RF'er back in '03. Herm(ye of great potential) has pretty much proven that he's got the skill-sets, but doesn't have the head to handle the pressure of regular season MLB. I'd be very nervous in post-season MLB.

 

 

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Hermida is better out there than Gary Sheffield.

If you want Gary Sheffield, I would think it has nothing to do with thinking that he's a defensive upgrade.

I'd love to have him...if we're confident that he's healthy, at least as healthy as a 40YO can be. I'd play him full-time in RF. Hand Hermida a plane ticket to New Orleans if the Mets won't take him. We improve defensively and offensively. And we get a guy who'd be trying his hardest for the next 5 weeks(and hopefully beyond) in order to get a contract from somebody next year.

 

 

 

Hermida's been doing terrible man, I agree.

 

.314/.429/.471 in August.

Attrocious. Send the bum to New Orleans.

He's had a good few weeks....over the last 2 years.

If we do make the playoffs, I'd be nervous having a RF with ADD out there.

Just 1 of his patended "whoopsies" could cost the team everything. Just think of that SF Giant RF'er back in '03. Herm(ye of great potential) has pretty much proven that he's got the skill-sets, but doesn't have the head to handle the pressure of regular season MLB. I'd be very nervous in post-season MLB.

 

 

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Hermida is better out there than Gary Sheffield.

If you want Gary Sheffield, I would think it has nothing to do with thinking that he's a defensive upgrade.

Sheff is -3 in RF in limited play, Hermida is +9.

I'd rather keep Hermida out there playing right now because he has been doing really well in August, and that may help us when it comes to trading him in the offseason (if we do).

 

Actually, wait, do we have him under contract next year?

I'd rather keep Hermida out there playing right now because he has been doing really well in August, and that may help us when it comes to trading him in the offseason (if we do).

 

Actually, wait, do we have him under contract next year?

 

Very much so. We still have him under club control for two more years.

It really is amazing just how bad Sheffield's 97 season was, when looking at the years surrounding it. Especially coming off his monster '96 season (27th most walks in a single season, 64th best OBP, 96th OPS, 83rd OPS+)

 

Jeff Conine also had a huge drop in production from 1996 to 1997 (about .100 OPS).

 

If Alou, Bonilla, and Fernandez came one year sooner, I bet that 1996 team could have won 100 games.

 

 

 

 

 

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Hermida is better out there than Gary Sheffield.

If you want Gary Sheffield, I would think it has nothing to do with thinking that he's a defensive upgrade.

Sheff is -3 in RF in limited play, Hermida is +9.

I do think that even on hobbled 40YO legs, Shef's a defensive upgrade. At least he knows what to do with the ball once he gets it, he knows his abilities and deficiencies. He's aware of his place in space and time, as we understand it. Jeremy is not. On that stat, all I can say is it's flawed. I'm sure that we agree that offensive stats are one thing, but defensive stats are trickier and need refinement.

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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Hermida is better out there than Gary Sheffield.

If you want Gary Sheffield, I would think it has nothing to do with thinking that he's a defensive upgrade.

Sheff is -3 in RF in limited play, Hermida is +9.

I do think that even on hobbled 40YO legs, Shef's a defensive upgrade. At least he knows what to do with the ball once he gets it, he knows his abilities and deficiencies. He's aware of his place in space and time, as we understand it. Jeremy is not. On that stat, all I can say is it's flawed. I'm sure that we agree that offensive stats are one thing, but defensive stats are trickier and need refinement.

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No, you think Sheffield is a defensive upgrade because you go along with the crowd by saying that Hermida is terrible at defense. Hermida has a stronger arm, and has more speed. Unless you can find a way to prove that +/- is flawed, I'd say it's a good defensive stat.

I don't go along with that crowd. I'm the founder and leader of that crowd...since day 1.

I don't go along with that crowd. I'm the founder and leader of that crowd...since day 1.

 

 

 

I'm sure you are.

 

And yet you still don't justify your point in saying that +/- is flawed.