August 21, 200917 yr Problem solved. Let's get Wagner via waivers, let's get Sheff and let's get Livan Hernandez! im in
August 21, 200917 yr Some more tidbits on the Fish from http://sports.espn.g...ce=MLBHeadlines FLORIDA MARLINS Here's something that's never a good sign:when your opponents have a higher batting average and on-basepercentage in the ninth inning than any other inning. That's a stat that applies to your 2009 Marlins. And it hangs over ateam trying to shock the world and sneak into the postseason with a$36.8 million payroll. The Marlins' first-half closer was Matt Lindstrom,a man with a 6.15 ERA who has allowed 16.57 baserunners per nineinnings this year despite great stuff. Their second-half closer hasbeen Leo Nunez,another guy with terrific stuff who has thrown just 51 percent of hispitches for strikes this year -- and has served up nine homers. "Nunez has a great arm, but he's a thrower, not a pitcher," one scoutsays. "To me, he's kind of like a better version of Jesus Colome.And Lindstrom is a guy with good stuff, but he doesn't trust it and hehas no idea where it's going. So I'd be searching the woods forsomebody [better] if I were them. A guy like [John] Smoltz would have been a perfect acquisition for them." Ready to rumble • Wig-Wagging: A scout who covers the Florida State League reports, after watching Billy Wagner throw, that there is "no doubt" Wagner could help somebody in the big leagues if the Mets can find a trade partner."Isaw him twice, and he was impressive," the scout said. "He was throwing92 to 94 [mph], and he was throwing strikes. The breaking-ball commandwas not real good. But everything else was the old Billy Wagner." Twoteams that other clubs' scouts believe have some interest are the Raysand Marlins. But Wagner's $10.5 million contract (which has more than$2.5 million remaining through the end of the season, plus a $1 millionbuyout of his 2010 option) likely would be too pricey for both of thoseteams. But other clubs believe that the Mets will have to eat a majorchuck of that money if they expect to land a decent prospect in returnfor Wagner. i love how douchebags on espn write whatever they want without anything to back it up. yeah, a 42 year old pitcher with an era of 8.33 and opponent's batting average of .343 are way better than nunez. smoltz decided to go to the cardinals, so oh course it's the marlins fault. espn is so gay and there website needs a huge upgrade, especially the message boards. although i'd take wagner in a heartbeat for the rest of the season jayson stark = queef. the only writers i actual like are gammons and keith law.
August 21, 200917 yr Some more tidbits on the Fish from http://sports.espn.g...ce=MLBHeadlines FLORIDA MARLINS Here's something that's never a good sign:when your opponents have a higher batting average and on-basepercentage in the ninth inning than any other inning. That's a stat that applies to your 2009 Marlins. And it hangs over ateam trying to shock the world and sneak into the postseason with a$36.8 million payroll. The Marlins' first-half closer was Matt Lindstrom,a man with a 6.15 ERA who has allowed 16.57 baserunners per nineinnings this year despite great stuff. Their second-half closer hasbeen Leo Nunez,another guy with terrific stuff who has thrown just 51 percent of hispitches for strikes this year -- and has served up nine homers. "Nunez has a great arm, but he's a thrower, not a pitcher," one scoutsays. "To me, he's kind of like a better version of Jesus Colome.And Lindstrom is a guy with good stuff, but he doesn't trust it and hehas no idea where it's going. So I'd be searching the woods forsomebody [better] if I were them. A guy like [John] Smoltz would have been a perfect acquisition for them." Ready to rumble • Wig-Wagging: A scout who covers the Florida State League reports, after watching Billy Wagner throw, that there is "no doubt" Wagner could help somebody in the big leagues if the Mets can find a trade partner."Isaw him twice, and he was impressive," the scout said. "He was throwing92 to 94 [mph], and he was throwing strikes. The breaking-ball commandwas not real good. But everything else was the old Billy Wagner." Twoteams that other clubs' scouts believe have some interest are the Raysand Marlins. But Wagner's $10.5 million contract (which has more than$2.5 million remaining through the end of the season, plus a $1 millionbuyout of his 2010 option) likely would be too pricey for both of thoseteams. But other clubs believe that the Mets will have to eat a majorchuck of that money if they expect to land a decent prospect in returnfor Wagner. i love how douchebags on espn write whatever they want without anything to back it up. yeah, a 42 year old pitcher with an era of 8.33 and opponent's batting average of .343 are way better than nunez. smoltz decided to go to the cardinals, so oh course it's the marlins fault. espn is so gay and there website needs a huge upgrade, especially the message boards. although i'd take wagner in a heartbeat for the rest of the season jayson stark = queef. the only writers i actual like are gammons and keith law. I like whomever has non-insider articles......
August 21, 200917 yr The Mets rejected his bizarre request for a contract extension. So Sheffield, according to sources, initially became verbally abusive, then demanded he be released or traded to the Marlins, then threatened to return home to Florida, and finally just pulled himself from the starting lineup. He struck out as a pinch-hitter in the eighth inning and then ignored reporters' interview attempts after the game. --- NY Post
August 21, 200917 yr id take sheff and billy wagner. sheff will probably be released imo so well get him and id give them a lower level prospect for billy wagner
August 21, 200917 yr The Mets rejected his bizarre request for a contract extension. So Sheffield, according to sources, initially became verbally abusive, then demanded he be released or traded to the Marlins, then threatened to return home to Florida, and finally just pulled himself from the starting lineup. He struck out as a pinch-hitter in the eighth inning and then ignored reporters' interview attempts after the game. --- NY Post Well.....at least he really wants to play here.
August 21, 200917 yr The Mets rejected his bizarre request for a contract extension. So Sheffield, according to sources, initially became verbally abusive, then demanded he be released or traded to the Marlins, then threatened to return home to Florida, and finally just pulled himself from the starting lineup. He struck out as a pinch-hitter in the eighth inning and then ignored reporters' interview attempts after the game. --- NY Post ......What the.....
August 21, 200917 yr Mets Deny Sheffield's Request For Extension By Brian Shephard [August 21 at 9:10am CST]FRIDAY, 9:10am: Sherman reports that Sheffield demanded to be released or traded to the Marlins. THURSDAY, 8:48pm: SI's Jon Heyman reports, via Twitter, that the Giants were the team that claimed Sheffield on waivers earlier this month. 6:23pm: David Lennon at Newsdayreminds us that earlier this month, the Mets placed Sheff on waivers,but pulled him back when he was claimed. This means he cannot betraded; the Mets could release him or place him on irrevocable waiversand lose him if he is claimed. 5:57pm: Via Twitter, Sherman cites a Mets official who says that "Sheffield has not been released." 5:47pm: Joel Sherman of the New York Post is reporting that Gary Sheffieldand the Mets are at odds about his contract situation. Sherman cites"two sources" who say that Sheffield asked the team for a contractextension and was denied. The sources say he is now threatening toleave the team. The two parties are now in discussions,according to Sherman, and the release of the aging outfielder is "apossibility." Sheffield was pulled from the roster for tonight's game,but Jerry Manuel said he pulled himself "to clear his head." mlbtraderumors.com
August 21, 200917 yr I know he wants to go into the HOF as a Marlin, now I guess he wants to retire as one as well. I'm not a fan of his attitude, but I would like to have his bat right now.
August 21, 200917 yr I would love to have him back. Like it has been said, his attitude is a problem, but how great would it be to have his bat in our lineup? Say what you want about him, but the man can still hit.
August 21, 200917 yr I think its pretty cool to have him back. And i'm guessing he really wants to come back.
August 21, 200917 yr Vs. Lefty Maybin Johnson Ramirez Cantu Baker Ross Sheffield Uggla Johnson Vs. Righty Coghlan Johnson Ramirez Cantu Ross Uggla Paulino Hermida Johnson SP Johnson Garland Nolasco Sanchez Volstad LR Badenhop LR Martinez MR Renyel Pinto MR Kiko Calero MR Brian Sanches MR Brendan Donelly SU Leo Nunez SU Matt Lindstrom CL Billy Wagner :mischief
August 21, 200917 yr Maybin Coghlan Ramirez Johnson Baker Cantu Ross Sheffield Johnson uh no, if we were to get him it would be coghlan johnson hanley cantu baker uggla ross sheffield/hermida
August 21, 200917 yr Maybin Coghlan Ramirez Johnson Baker Cantu Ross Sheffield Johnson uh no, if we were to get him it would be coghlan johnson hanley cantu baker uggla ross sheffield/hermida Vs. Lefty Maybin Johnson Ramirez Cantu Baker Ross Sheffield Uggla Johnson Vs. Righty Coghlan Johnson Ramirez Cantu Ross Uggla Paulino Hermida Johnson SP Johnson Garland Nolasco Sanchez Volstad LR Badenhop LR Martinez MR Renyel Pinto MR Kiko Calero MR Brian Sanches MR Brendan Donelly SU Leo Nunez SU Matt Lindstrom CL Billy Wagner :shifty
August 21, 200917 yr I would take Gary Sheffield in the same lineup as Nick Johnson and lay odds the Marlins will never leave 16 men on base in a game again this season. And by that I don't mean 15 or 14 either, maybe even 12, even 10 but I could be accused of hyperbole, and I'd plead guilty. Sheffield wants one thing. A contract for 2010. He's showcasing himself, he isn't going to accomplish that with the 2009 Mets, he obviously thinks Miami is the place to do it. If this were May or June, or even July I might feel differently but I can feel good about what can he and Johnson could contribute over the next five or six weeks in the same lineup. Looking at the standings realistically there aren't many teams who would stand in the Marlins way to acquire him should Fredi and the front office think he's manageable for the term. It's like a story within a story unfolding before us. There is always the problem of a roster spot and playing time but if they pull the trigger on the pickup you have to think they won't be saying to themselves, "Okay we got him. What do we do with him?"
August 21, 200917 yr He cannot be traded to the Marlins. The Mets previously placed him on waivers then pulled him back, which means he can only be released, OR if he were to be placed on waivers for a second time, the Mets would not be able to pull him back and they would have to give him up for nothing. Not saying that we won't get him, but if he were to be put on waivers, he would have to make his way down to us without another team claiming him. [Question for someone in the know- if two teams are tied with identical records (i.e. Marlins/Braves) and both teams claim a player on waivers, what happens?]
August 21, 200917 yr Author Since the Giants claimed him last time, it would seem as if the Marlins would have a good chance of claiming him should they decide they want him. And I would love to see his OBP and pop in this line-up, at least for a couple of starts a week and pinch-hitting. At the moment, he's an easy swap for Gaby Sanchez on the 25-man.
August 21, 200917 yr Author He cannot be traded to the Marlins. The Mets previously placed him on waivers then pulled him back, which means he can only be released, OR if he were to be placed on waivers for a second time, the Mets would not be able to pull him back and they would have to give him up for nothing. Not saying that we won't get him, but if he were to be put on waivers, he would have to make his way down to us without another team claiming him. [Question for someone in the know- if two teams are tied with identical records (i.e. Marlins/Braves) and both teams claim a player on waivers, what happens?] Whichever team really wants it more, gets it.
August 21, 200917 yr There is always the problem of a roster spot and playing time but if they pull the trigger on the pickup you have to think they won't be saying to themselves, "Okay we got him. What do we do with him?" I think it goes exactly like this: Mike Hill: "Okay, we got him. What do we do with him?" Admin Beinfest: "Man, now we need to open up a roster spot..." Mike: "Hey, I just remembered, we obviously hate that Gaby Sanchez kid!" Admin: "Oh, sh*t, you're right! You bet your ass we do. Send his ass down. Problem solved."
August 21, 200917 yr Gary's a unique animal. He's already made it clear where he wants to go. Any team deciding to make a claim ahead of the Marlins (should the Marlins be interested), has to know his tenure might not be pretty.
August 21, 200917 yr [Question for someone in the know- if two teams are tied with identical records (i.e. Marlins/Braves) and both teams claim a player on waivers, what happens?] Goes to the team with the worse record the previous season
August 21, 200917 yr I think the fact we passed on him during waivers speaks enough of our interest. If the Mets released him I'd be surprised if we signed him. And then of coarse the "where do we play him". We already have one miscast guy playing LF. We don't need two starting miscast corner OFers. Hermida has done better as of late and Maybin is doing basically everything you'd ask out of him in AAA. And like 2003 said, he's playing for a 2010 contract right now. A platoon with Hermida does not get him a 2010 contract.
August 21, 200917 yr That's right Nny... He comes. He plays. Yeah, that's why I don't want him. He's going to want to be the everyday starting RF'er. No thanks.
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